PFT: Brett Favre: Don’t blame Tony Romo for lack of playoff wins

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RoyTheHammer;5047432 said:
You don't get to cherry pick which parts of your career you want to be remembered for. I never said he wasn't a good QB, just not as good as I think he gets credit for, and the fact that he acted like a pompous towards the end of his career makes me think even less of him.

He acted pompous so that played a role in making you think less of him as a qb? :rolleyes: oh brother

Also stop pretending to act like you are old enough to remember what he played like. Much less even watch his games. You can't even state any facts.

Just stop
 

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RoyTheHammer;5047457 said:
He was also a guy who tried to get his way all the time, and was deceitful in his attempts to go where he wanted to at the end of his career.
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Yeah because you know him so well, and you were there. :rolleyes:

Again stop pretending to know, and making ignorant comments. Is this what the media showed you? So you run with it as if it is fact?

Pathetic
 

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popp1234;5047293 said:
Aaaah, Tony Romo, the guy I cannot wait to forget.

Yeah I loved the qcar days too. Every now and then I fire up a chutch highlight video to remind me how a real qb plays the game.
 

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Frozen700;5047560 said:
He acted pompous so that played a role in making you think less of him as a qb? :rolleyes: oh brother

Also stop pretending to act like you are old enough to remember what he played like. Much less even watch his games. You can't even state any facts.

Just stop

How he acted had nothing to do with how he played. You clearly didn't read the thread before you dove in head first again.

Par for the course.. now you're talking about age like you're even out of high school yet? Child, please.

Less is more, kid.. less is more.
 

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No, of course not!

More excuses for a QB that's faultered in crunch time... ever since junior high.
 

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Avenger;5047615 said:
No, of course not!

More excuses for a QB that's faultered in crunch time... ever since junior high.

Has he? I've seen him consistently make plays to get his team in position to score in crunch time.

I wonder what his stats look like in the final two minutes of halves in games decided by 7 points or less? And I wonder how that compares to the performance of our defense?
 

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Avenger;5047615 said:
No, of course not!

More excuses for a QB that's faultered in crunch time... ever since junior high.
Yep! and there will be more excuses after he fails again this coming season. it's never ending.
 

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Despite a defense decimated by injuries, an O-Line that was a porous mess (and also had some injuries), and the worst rushing totals in team history...the Cowboys were STILL playing for a division title. Romo played about as well as any QB in the league down the stretch, and that is a big reason why they were still in contention at all. Dez, Spencer & Witten were 3 other players that really stepped up.

Romo undoubtedly made some bad mistakes in the Skins game. No excuses.
That said, it is indeed a team game.

I love how some detractors still like to point out the non-QB related special teams hold in Seattle as evidence that Romo is a choker, but seemingly forget the following.....

"After protecting a 20-13 lead with a stop by the defense, the Cowboys fell behind when Terry Glenn's fumble turned into a safety and Seattle followed with a 37-yard touchdown pass from Matt Hasselbeck to Jerramy Stevens."

Dallas lost the game 21-20...and a safety is of course worth 2 points. The D then gives up the TD to Stevens to compound things. Seattle still won the game despite Hasselbeck throwing 2 Int's that led to 6 points and Romo throwing none in his first playoff start.

Then there's this: "The Seahawks still had to get away from the shadow of their goal line to protect the victory, but did so right away with Alexander running through the middle for 20 yards. Seattle milked the clock to 8 seconds before a punt that gave Dallas one last chance from the 50."

The defense folded at the most crucial time...with the Seahawks backed up, which allowed them to kill precious time & essentially ice the game.

Romo's hold was definitely the most memorable mistake...but it certainly wasn't the only one that contributed to the loss.

The Vikings playoff game:

The O-Line and pass defense vs. Rice (and I don't mean Jerry), were flat terrible. Ray Edwards alone accounted for 3 sacks, 6 hurries, 5 tackles & forced a Romo fumble. He made Colombo look silly all day. Favre threw 4 TD's & Rice caught 3 of them for 141 yards. Romo indeed lost 2 fumbles (the other occuring when Witten was left 1-on-1 with Jared Allen after Free replaced Adams at LT), but some of that can certainly be attributed to him being pummeled the entire game.

The Giants playoff game:

"The Cowboys stuck to their slow-go game plan to open the second half, but the mistakes began biting them. A dropped pass in the end zone and false start forced Dallas to kick a field goal after a drive that burned the first 8:07 of the third quarter."

Dallas lost the game by 4 points...points which that drop in the end zone would have accounted for vs. settling for a field goal, after a drive that consumed over half of the 3rd quarter.

Then there was Crayton essentially giving up on the pass in the end zone in the 4th as well...just a few plays ahead of Romo's Int.

Pointing out Romo's mistakes is fine. But some 'conveniently' seem to forget to look at his 'teammates' as well, who have certainly made their share of costly mistakes.
 

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CyberB0b;5047565 said:
Yeah I loved the qcar days too. Every now and then I fire up a chutch highlight video to remind me how a real qb plays the game.

Yeah, according to the Romo apologists (I mean "real Cowboys fans"), there are only two kinds of QBs...Quincy Carter types and the great Tony Romo.
 

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CyberB0b;5047565 said:
Yeah I loved the qcar days too. Every now and then I fire up a chutch highlight video to remind me how a real qb plays the game.

Really, you too? I often put on Troy Aikman and Roger games to see how "real" QBs perform in crunch time.

Yeah, about "QCar", well, according to the Romo apologists (I mean "real Cowboys fans"), there are only two kinds of QBs...Quincy Carter types and the great Tony Romo. Dallas will never have a decent QB after Romo.

I root for Tony Romo, because I wish for the success of the Dallas Cowboys, NOT because I have a man crush on Romo and turn a blind eye to his choke jobs. I do not absolve Romo of his mistakes just to piss off "the haters" when I know full well he played a significant role in costing the team the game. I honestly believe some fans would rather Romo pad his stats than the team have a successful season....oh, I am referring to the "real fans", you know, the ones who blame everyone else on the team, including the ball boy for Boy Wonder's choke jobs.
 

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popp1234;5047769 said:
Really, you too? I often put on Troy Aikman and Roger games to see how "real" QBs perform in crunch time.

Yeah, about "QCar", well, according to the Romo apologists (I mean "real Cowboys fans"), there are only two kinds of QBs...Quincy Carter types and the great Tony Romo. Dallas will never have a decent QB after Romo.

I root for Tony Romo, because I wish for the success of the Dallas Cowboys, NOT because I have a man crush on Romo and turn a blind eye to his choke jobs. I do not absolve Romo of his mistakes just to piss off "the haters" when I know full well he played a significant role in costing the team the game. I honestly believe some fans would rather Romo pad his stats than the team have a successful season....oh, I am referring to the "real fans", you know, the ones who blame everyone else on the team, including the ball boy for Boy Wonder's choke jobs.

amazing how many Romo haters claim they were fans of his once upon a time.
I guess they think that somehow lends credence to their rather sad claims.
Really kind of funny.
 

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burmafrd;5047770 said:
amazing how many Romo haters claim they were fans of his once upon a time.
I guess they think that somehow lends credence to their rather sad claims.
Really kind of funny.

Actually, I like Romo. I liked my ex-wife too. She is beautiful, intelligent, talented, and works hard; you know, kinda an overachiever.......but she broke my heart one too many times. Now, I am better off without her. :)
 

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cowboyvic;5047529 said:
The truth hurts. deal with it. Romo is a choker. and that has been proven. give him a great O-Line and defense, and he still will find a way to lose.but keep putting the blame on others if it makes you feel better.everyone is a troll that don't agree with you. or don't think Romo is the greatest.


If you can name me one NFL team that won a championship due to 1 player and 1 player alone then you can call this truth.

Until then you have nothing.
 

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I keep reading, but all I hear in my head is "Troll, troll, troll your boat..."


 

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I agree with Favre to an extent, but at the same time your best players have to play their best in big games, Romo hasnt been able to elevate his play in big games. Last year vs Washington is a perfect example of him playing great down the stretch than turning in a dog of a game when it mattered.
 

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It's not really a matter of Romo hatred being real fans. It is more of a commentary of their knowledge of the game. It may sound arrogant or elitist, but it's simply true.
 

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popp1234;5047767 said:
Yeah, according to the Romo apologists (I mean "real Cowboys fans"), there are only two kinds of QBs...Quincy Carter types and the great Tony Romo.

In my mind, you either have an elite QB or you don't. Romo isn't elite, but he is capable of winning it with some help.
 

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I don't get why Romo haters focus on Romo like he is the only reason we win and lose games. You guys should watch highlights of a real onlin and a defense that isn't allergic to that ball.
 

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Lodeus;5047977 said:
I don't get why Romo haters focus on Romo like he is the only reason we win and lose games. You guys should watch highlights of a real onlin and a defense that isn't allergic to that ball.
Yea yea yea. it's all the defense fault. or it's all the O-Line's fault. or it's the WR's running the wrong pattern. or it's the ball being slick. the excuses for this guy never end.
 

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cowboyvic;5047997 said:
Yea yea yea. it's all the defense fault. or it's all the O-Line's fault. or it's the WR's running the wrong pattern. or it's the ball being slick. the excuses for this guy never end.

:laugh2:

So Romo has do everything by himself? The offensive line, defense, the run game or the coaches are not required to help him? Is that your logic?
 
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