News: PFT: Stephen Jones expresses disappointment in Randy Gregory

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MichaelWinicki said:
Agree with the article that Gregory has to assume mucho responsibility.

But at the same time I wonder about the support-network supplied by both the Cowboys and Gregory's agent.
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I think the only way you can blame the Cowboys or his agent is if the Cowboys rolled the joint for him and the agent lit it. If those circumstances didn't happen then this is Gregory's fault. If a man isn't motivated to stay clean to play professional sports and earn millions of dollars then there's no support network in the world that will make a difference.

I work with people who did drugs for years and quit and stayed clean to maintain their job at walmart cuz it was their last chance. These people have no support network (besides therapy) and are maintaining their sobriety on pure will power because they need a job. The NFL pays a lot better than Walmart. Gregory is an idiot and I don't feel sorry for him. If he gets caught again I say we cut him. I'm sure we can replace his 0 sacks from last year pretty easily.

And that anxiety excuse is BS. You don't put a substance into your body that makes you paranoid to relieve anxiety. That's like relieving a headache by hitting your head with a hammer.
 
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TheCount said:
If he really does have clinical anxiety, then it's no joke. I've known people with anxiety, and they've done worse than smoking up.

However, if he really does have clinical anxiety, they make actual medication for that.
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Doctors are only too happy to give patients cases of anti-anxiety medicine, bloke. So I do not believe that is the case here.
Gregory is young, was exposed to that (ongoing) era in which marihuana is a recreational drug and it is "cool" to do it. But those who follow the Pied Piper's music of the Devil's Weed usually wind up living in a van under a bridge. Gregory will sabotage his NFL career for the weed, mate. I cannot see any other scenario. The weed has that big a pull on some people.
No, it's not anxiety. It's a poor excuse and one i hope the public and front office will not buy.
In the words of the famous Sgt. Stedenko, "Only dopes smoke dope."

Greogry is a prime example, mates.
 
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plymkr said:
I think the only way you can blame the Cowboys or his agent is if the Cowboys rolled the joint for him and the agent lit it. If those circumstances didn't happen then this is Gregory's fault. If a man isn't motivated to stay clean to play professional sports and earn millions of dollars then there's no support network in the world that will make a difference.

I work with people who did drugs for years and quit and stayed clean to maintain their job at walmart cuz it was their last chance. These people have no support network (besides therapy) and are maintaining their sobriety on pure will power because they need a job. The NFL pays a lot better than Walmart. Gregory is an idiot and I don't feel sorry for him. If he gets caught again I say we cut him. I'm sure we can replace his 0 sacks from last year pretty easily.

And that anxiety excuse is BS. You don't put a substance into your body that makes you paranoid to relieve anxiety. That's like relieving a headache by hitting your head with a hammer.
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With you 110% on this. There is no one to blame but Gregory himself, no one forced him to smoke weed that was his choice and there is a lot of support given to players.
 
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MichaelWinicki said:
Agree with the article that Gregory has to assume mucho responsibility.

But at the same time I wonder about the support-network supplied by both the Cowboys and Gregory's agent.
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When did the Cowboys and then agents become substance-abuse experts and support networks to players. Last I heard, mate, one was an NFL team and the other an agent who deals in finances and contracts.
If players are damaged at the NFL stage it is too late to do anything. Oh, nobody give me that rehab line. Rehabs has a more terrible track record than diamond field offers in the Ozarks.
But, MichaelWinicki, I appreciate your concern for the young man.
 
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plymkr said:
I think the only way you can blame the Cowboys or his agent is if the Cowboys rolled the joint for him and the agent lit it. If those circumstances didn't happen then this is Gregory's fault. If a man isn't motivated to stay clean to play professional sports and earn millions of dollars then there's no support network in the world that will make a difference.

I work with people who did drugs for years and quit and stayed clean to maintain their job at walmart cuz it was their last chance. These people have no support network (besides therapy) and are maintaining their sobriety on pure will power because they need a job. The NFL pays a lot better than Walmart. Gregory is an idiot and I don't feel sorry for him. If he gets caught again I say we cut him. I'm sure we can replace his 0 sacks from last year pretty easily.

And that anxiety excuse is BS. You don't put a substance into your body that makes you paranoid to relieve anxiety. That's like relieving a headache by hitting your head with a hammer.
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The only thing you can blame the Cowboys for was drafting him because they knew what they were getting. It was obvious to everyone when Gregory tested positive for pot at the combine he has a dependency on it which is why he dropped so far in the draft. Despite the Cowboys support system he once again tested positive. Don't think it's going to end well between Gregory and the team.
 
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KJJ said:
The only thing you can blame the Cowboys for was drafting him because they knew what they were getting. It was obvious to everyone when Gregory tested positive for pot at the combine he has a dependency on it which is why he dropped so far in the draft. Despite the Cowboys support system he once again tested positive. Don't think it's going to end well between Gregory and the team.
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I agree, it all falls to Gregory of how important football really is to him
 
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KJJ said:
The only thing you can blame the Cowboys for was drafting him because they knew what they were getting. It was obvious to everyone when Gregory tested positive for pot at the combine he has a dependency on it which is why he dropped so far in the draft. Despite the Cowboys support system he once again tested positive. Don't think it's going to end well between Gregory and the team.
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I agree, at what time do we cut our loses with him? If he tests positive again then I saw goodbye. This muddies up the waters for the draft because we need a DE now especially with Hardy not coming back and Gregory being a problem. And I wanted the freedom with that #4 pick to get the best QB available. But I don't want to turn this to a draft discussion but Gregory didn't do us any favors on the field and off the field.

Disappointing results on and off the field but worth the risk if he could have stayed clean.
 
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I agree, it all falls to Gregory of how important football really is to him
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Football can't be very important to him testing positive for pot at the most important job interview a college football player can have at the combine. Even with him falling in the draft because of it and with the support system the Cowboys have that have been working hard with him he still can't stay away from pot. I've known several musicians one was in a very famous band and he had a bad drug problem and was told by the other members to either clean up or he was out and he cleaned it up because his career depended on it. It's down to make or break for Gregory another positive test and not only will the Cowboys be done with him but other teams may not touch him. Everyones worst fears about him are coming to light.
 
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plymkr said:
I agree, at what time do we cut our loses with him? If he tests positive again then I saw goodbye. This muddies up the waters for the draft because we need a DE now especially with Hardy not coming back and Gregory being a problem. And I wanted the freedom with that #4 pick to get the best QB available. But I don't want to turn this to a draft discussion but Gregory didn't do us any favors on the field and off the field.

Disappointing results on and off the field but worth the risk if he could have stayed clean.
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Another positive test and the Cowboys will be done with him. It would lead to an even longer suspension and the team would see him as being hopeless at that point. Gregory's suspension is going to affect the Cowboys draft because Bosa who the team may have been interested in will be out of the question now because he was suspended for pot at the start of the 2015 college season. The Cowboys can't take the chance they could end up with another pot head especially with the 4th overall pick. This opens the door for a QB at #4 but with all the needs the team has that's a tough move to make for a player who's going to spend most of their time on the sidelines.
 
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MichaelWinicki said:
Agree with the article that Gregory has to assume mucho responsibility.

But at the same time I wonder about the support-network supplied by both the Cowboys and Gregory's agent.
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The Cowboys support network is a sham. When was the last time they helped a player turn it around? Recently, you have McClain, Gregory, Hardy, and Randle. All within the same year, pretty much.
 
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CyberB0b said:
The Cowboys support network is a sham. When was the last time they helped a player turn it around? Recently, you have McClain, Gregory, Hardy, and Randle. All within the same year, pretty much.
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No more a sham than any other support network, they can help players but 1st the player has to be able to help himself. Cowboys can't be with players 24/7 at what point does the player have responsibility for their own actions?
 
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