Twitter: Phil Costa retires from NFL

[CowboyStar88]

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It is far from a contest. You are the always the first that tries to shame somebody for being right. I gave my take as to why Costa would never develop back when the debate was a hot topic. I gave valid reasons why and was blasted for being negative. I am not concerned with your opinion of me being right or wrong. I gave an accurate evaluation which turned out to be correct. I really don't keep up with it, you seem to do that for me.

Again you are taking someone retiring by his CHOICE while having signed a contract with his 2nd team as some type of vindication that you were right? I must really be missing how that makes someone right?

 

[jnday]

Jnday, you brought the likes thing up nobody else. I would've never thought about clicking and checking someone's likes and I still haven't. Everyone knew the oline had to be rebuilt because of the gutting that took place that's not some revolution that RS came up with. Some people felt that Dallas had some decent prospects. Just because he doesn't believe in CB doesn't mean they aren't important. People who have worked and scouted in college and the NFL think they are. You need pass rushers and CBs to be successful they go hand in hand. Did Dallas have a good oline last year? Sure they did. But the defense still sucked why? Depleted by injuries and the lack of safety help. I mean it isn't rocket science where someone has just figured out some equation for some light propulsion engines that will alter space travel. I mean come on stating the obvious aren't you? I really don't need a history of your exchanges nor did I accuse you of rigging anything. But I will say you surely hang on every word the guy says and who cares if he responds he has his tactic and he knows what he wants to respond to. People have seen through the crap and they know what's what bud. If you can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you.

As I have said, Risen is the realist poster boy on this board. He catches it from alotta posters on this board. He is a good poster and I happen to agree with most of his opinions. This topic must really have struck a nerve. You gave out more thought into it than I have. By the way, the "like" button has been a topic in several threads over the last few weeks. I am far from bring the first or only one to bring it up. You must have missed that.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yes, Phil Costa retired from the league in his 20s because he had an abundance of talent and a bright future in the NFL.

Say it with me, Mike. "I was wrong."

You'll be wrong again too. Just as soon as the team is.

Released vs retired.

Ah!

It's a spelling issue.

 

[jnday]

Jnday, you brought the likes thing up nobody else. I would've never thought about clicking and checking someone's likes and I still haven't. Everyone knew the oline had to be rebuilt because of the gutting that took place that's not some revolution that RS came up with. Some people felt that Dallas had some decent prospects. Just because he doesn't believe in CB doesn't mean they aren't important. People who have worked and scouted in college and the NFL think they are. You need pass rushers and CBs to be successful they go hand in hand. Did Dallas have a good oline last year? Sure they did. But the defense still sucked why? Depleted by injuries and the lack of safety help. I mean it isn't rocket science where someone has just figured out some equation for some light propulsion engines that will alter space travel. I mean come on stating the obvious aren't you? I really don't need a history of your exchanges nor did I accuse you of rigging anything. But I will say you surely hang on every word the guy says and who cares if he responds he has his tactic and he knows what he wants to respond to. People have seen through the crap and they know what's what bud. If you can't figure that out I don't know what to tell you.

You and a couple more really put alotta thought into what's what. You was even so kind as to give me credit for some things that I haven't even thought about. I have no problem in saying that this stuff means much more to you than it does me. You have figured something out that we had debated two years ago, but it's good that you caught up.

 

[CowboyStar88]

As I have said, Risen is the realist poster boy on this board. He catches it from alotta posters on this board. He is a good poster and I happen to agree with most of his opinions. This topic must really have struck a nerve. You gave out more thought into it than I have. By the way, the "like" button has been a topic in several threads over the last few weeks. I am far from bring the first or only one to bring it up. You must have missed that.

The topic that struck a nerve were people who are taking credit for a guy retiring. It's silly and a complete joke. I have not seen the "likes" thing you brought it up in this thread to make a point that RS has changed people's opinion and made them see the "light". Sorry being condescending and pompous and negative does not make one a "realist" it just makes you an ***. I don't care about Costa as a player I wish him the best as he was genuinely a nice guy. But you guys and this I'm right narrative is hot garbage. "Look at me" syndrome at it's finest.

 

[Eddie]

Wow, and to think ... Brook Hogan almost married this guy.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Wow, and to think ... Brook Hogan almost married this guy.

Yep, two dudes living in bliss together. Different strokes(no pun intended) for different folks.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Yep, two dudes living in bliss together. Different strokes(no pun intended) for different folks.

Oh wait...Brook Hogan's a chick? I would have NEVER guessed. Nice Adam's apple.

 

[jobberone]

Now I have an agenda. I see how this works.

If you can make the jump from Costa being a UDFA who was forced into action and didn't pan out to that being a symptom of Jerry's culture then you have an agenda. I don't see you as a person who is problematic in that area though.

Costa is what he was. I had a LB start next to me once who hadn't the slightest idea what to do and didn't. It wasn't because the coaches put him out there by mistake. They gave Costa time to rise to the occasion and when they felt that wasn't going to happen they drafted Fred; which a WHOLE LOT of people here complained about and even some still do.

 

[jobberone]

i am sure you are smarter than the one-sided argument you are making

the difference is that some of us can point out the bad while still praising the FO for good decisions, like picking T Fred and Williams (and there are may more such examples like signing Melton, etc)

the usual suspects blindly praise everything the FO does and ridicule posters that have the capacity to be objective

When the negativity outweighs the positivity by a very large margin then people have a right to view someone as a negative poster.

I don't remember you posting much in the way of positive threads TBH nor looking at the trade down for Fred as possibly a good thing.

Additionally, contrary to your continued assertions that people who try to see the positives and negatives in a situation are always pumping sunshine and looking down on others, I see most as taking a watchful waiting stance on many moves made by the FO. And many of said happy fans do in fact comment on negative aspects of the club be it players, coaches or FO.

There are few absolutes in life and most people see both sides of the equation.

No one really knows anyone well here with few exceptions. Their persona here doesn't necessarily reflect their personality overall. So most here are merely commenting on a member's post(s) and understand the comments are for here alone. They have no animosity towards the 'real' person behind the user ID because they don't know them.

Many people see what they look, BTW.

 

[Doc50]

I guess Larry Allen and Nate Newton don't know what they are talking about. During the luncheon in 2011 in SF they both said they thought Costa was gonna be a very good center. I asked them during an interview during the show what they thought and that's what they said. After my wife and I walked outside with Larry as we were leaving at the same time( he was admiring my truck) and he reiterated what he thought of Costa. Glad they're not scouts! Lol great players and Larry is a nice guy.

Injuries derail many potential stars.

 

[burmafrd]

If you can make the jump from Costa being a UDFA who was forced into action and didn't pan out to that being a symptom of Jerry's culture then you have an agenda. I don't see you as a person who is problematic in that area though.

Costa is what he was. I had a LB start next to me once who hadn't the slightest idea what to do and didn't. It wasn't because the coaches put him out there by mistake. They gave Costa time to rise to the occasion and when they felt that wasn't going to happen they drafted Fred; which a WHOLE LOT of people here complained about and even some still do.

thinking that Costa would ever be much was the big mistake; and WHOEVER thought he was ready to start when he did should have been run out of VR on a rail trailing tar and feathers

 

[jobberone]

thinking that Costa would ever be much was the big mistake; and WHOEVER thought he was ready to start when he did should have been run out of VR on a rail trailing tar and feathers

We already stated he was forced into the lineup before being ready because he was the best guy for the job no matter how good he was or wasn't.

The real problem stems from letting Gurode go without a proven C. Now Gurode didn't go elsewhere and play well either so.... If you want to take it back another step then you can point to the lack of attention the OL got before that. I tend to agree with that although I don't think anyone thought they would have to clean house like they did all at once which isn't an unreasonable take.

 

[dallasdave]

Released vs retired.

Ah!

It's a spelling issue.

It spells NO MORE PAYCHECKS

 

[Idgit]

Spot on. I'll hit the like button for a variety of reasons. I might not agree with a lot of the post but I like the way it was presented or that poster put out food for thought, yada.

Perhaps the like button should go bye bye.

I love the 'like' button. And don't want a 'don't like' button. I do think it'd be interesting to have a count for how many times a given poster likes another poster's post, though. I'm curious what that would look like.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I love the 'like' button. And don't want a 'don't like' button. I do think it'd be interesting to have a count for how many times a given poster likes another poster's post, though. I'm curious what that would look like.

I think we would know the answer to that! But I see what you did there. I haven't explored the "like" stats but is there anyway to click on a poster and see who or what they "like"?

 

[Idgit]

I think we would know the answer to that! But I see what you did there. I haven't explored the "like" stats but is there anyway to click on a poster and see who or what they "like"?

AFAIK, you can just see the likes in their recent activity, but no easy way to see, for example, if you'd 'liked' 1,000 posts. We all probably have a sense of who likes our respective posts, but it's too time consuming, for example, to see how many posts you yourself like. I just wonder if everybody likes posts here and there, or if it's a dozen or so users liking anything and everything. Or two groups of sides liking whichever positive or negative argument is made in a given thread.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I love the 'like' button. And don't want a 'don't like' button. I do think it'd be interesting to have a count for how many times a given poster likes another poster's post, though. I'm curious what that would look like.

The dislike button would foster more negativity. I'd say we can all agree that CZ doesn't need more of that.

 

[CowboyStar88]

AFAIK, you can just see the likes in their recent activity, but no easy way to see, for example, if you'd 'liked' 1,000 posts. We all probably have a sense of who likes our respective posts, but it's too time consuming, for example, to see how many posts you yourself like. I just wonder if everybody likes posts here and there, or if it's a dozen or so users liking anything and everything. Or two groups of sides liking whichever positive or negative argument is made in a given thread.

For me I just give likes here or there it doesn't matter who is posting. If I like what I read I give a like. No particular posters or favorites

 

[Idgit]

The dislike button would foster more negativity. I'd say we can all agree that CZ doesn't need more of that.

Definitely not. I don't want a dislike button. The constant negative reinforcement would destroy my delicate ego.