Philly Enquirer: What if Wentz had Prescott's supporting cast?

[Garrettop]

The comparisons to Weeden's passing tendencies are pretty on point (short fastballs). The difference is that Wentz doesn't look like he's about to have a panic attack every time he drops back to pass. Dak's touch on those swing routes and the go routes is something that sets him apart. His difficulties on some of the deep outs and back shoulder throws are to be expected - those are the most difficult throws to make.

 

[ringmaster]

Not surprised. It's not like Philly in general has the sharpest tools in the shed when it comes to sports media. They are doing everything in their power to deflect Carson's struggles instead of admitting he's been nothing more than mediocre so far.

I agree imo Dak is by far the best of all rookie QBs this season and you're spot on with Wentz, he may get it together eventually but as of now he's been over hyped and watching him play last night you could tell he wasn't comfortable at all throwing the ball.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

the Eagles have kept the training wheels on Wentz

maybe he has it, maybe he doesn't, but so long as they protect him with this high school style offense, he is not in the same discussion as Dak.

 

[morasp]

Listening to Dez and Zeke after the game really underscored the leadership aspect the Dak brings to the field.

 

[Tenkamenin]

It's absolutely APPALLING that Wentz is mentioned in the same class as Dak. Only statue, "big arm", supposedly "bright" QB's are granted these "what if's". Heck not even Donovan Mcnabb was given these "what if's" when he was throwing to Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell for many years. Max Kellerman said last week, "I like Wentz big play ability over Dak's", really? His big play ability is throwing it to a guy like Sproles in the flat and watching him run 60 yards for a score.

 

[Rogerthat12]

from the Philly Enquirer:

"Prescott is certainly a nice find for the Cowboys as a fourth-round pick. But having such a strong supporting cast really helps him. One could only imagine if Wentz was in the same position. It’s not hard to imagine he’d be having even more success than Dak has had."

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2...prescott-ezekiel-elliott/#iHbufDUGTvlTYjQ3.99

Typical Philthy...

Risen provided these same reason yesterday, go figure!

 

[kevm3]

I agree with the Wentz comment. He is better than Dak at the moment, and if he had his weapons he would definitely do better with our offense.

How is wentz better than Dak when Dak has a victory over him in the senior bowl, better stats and beat him in a head to head matchup?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

By this logic, we should no longer make excuses for Romo because, let's see, he doesn't have a strong defense, he didn't have his No. 1 receiver, the receiver didn't catch the ball, he can't block for himself, etc.

Romo isn't playing so not sure where you are getting that people are making excuses.......maybe you should join eagles forum

 

[Longboysfan]

from the Philly Enquirer:

"Prescott is certainly a nice find for the Cowboys as a fourth-round pick. But having such a strong supporting cast really helps him. One could only imagine if Wentz was in the same position. It’s not hard to imagine he’d be having even more success than Dak has had."

Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2...prescott-ezekiel-elliott/#iHbufDUGTvlTYjQ3.99

Typical Philthy...

Then you would not have the same owner of the Eagles. It all starts with ownership and wanting to win more than the other guy.

 

[Proof]

He's right though...

Except that we already saw it play out in college. Dak was the man with the poor supporting cast and he turned the program around and had them number 1 in the country while rewriting their record books. Wentz broke his wrist and the team had a better record without him, Dak left miss st and they give southern Alabama their first ever SEC win

 

[Proximo]

How is wentz better than Dak when Dak has a victory over him in the senior bowl, better stats and beat him in a head to head matchup?

To date, Dak has outperformed Wentz in every tangible, measurable, quantifiable way possible. The Wentz groupies have been reduced to manufacturing hypothetical situations to convince themselves that Dak still isn't better. It's ashame.

 

[tyke1doe]

Romo isn't playing so not sure where you are getting that people are making excuses.......maybe you should join eagles forum

Let's see if you can follow the bouncing ball of logic:

You said we shouldn't make excuses for Wentz.
Yet, year after year fans make excuses for Romo.
If we shouldn't make excuses for Wentz, we shouldn't make excuses for Romo.

And being a fan of the Cowboys doesn't mean you have to toss reason and logic to the wind. You can be an avid fan of the team and still give credit where credit is due.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

What if the refs had called PI on Deion Sanders back in the day? What if Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin didn't get injured when they did? What if Jimmy never left Dallas?

They could what if stuff to death with football.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Let's see if you can follow the bouncing ball of logic:

You said we shouldn't make excuses for Wentz.
Yet, year after year fans make excuses for Romo.
If we shouldn't make excuses for Wentz, we shouldn't make excuses for Romo.

And being a fan of the Cowboys doesn't mean you have to toss reason and logic to the wind. You can be an avid fan of the team and still give credit where credit is due.

Give credit to who? Wentz. He hasn't done anything to get credit. Wentz has an elite defense.....Wentz throws behind the line of scrimmage and didn't complete 1 pass over 15 yards. 10 yards and less. I'm not giving credit to that, he lost. So take your Wentz loving crap somewhere else because your aren't a Cowboys fan, you're a Wentz fan.

It's pathetic that people are falling for this crap. Wentz has playmakers on offense. Dak has recievers dropping passes so what. Sproles was out rushing Zeke until the 4th quarter. Stop it

 

[popp1234]

If you listen to Philly sports radio, it will give you a sample of where all of this talk started. They are just as obsessed with making the case that Wentz is better than Dak as they are the actual loss to the Cowboys...and that's saying a lot. It's like, "yeah, you beat me, but my mom makes better meatloaf than yours". Lol

 

[guag]

What if the Cowboys had the Patriots coaching staff? Blah Blah Blah Blah.

 

[Rogerthat12]

More success? So, he'd be 7-0 instead of 6-1? Cause that's the only way he could be more successful. 5 games in a row of a passer rating over 100. 176 passes without an interception. Yeah, it's totally his supporting cast that is responsible for ALL of that. I'm sure Wentz would have thrown 300 passes without an INT if he played for Dallas. And if ifs and buts were candy and nuts....

We lost the "one" by 1 point..LOL!

 

[gmoney112]

They should probably worry more about making the playoffs at this point.

 

[tyke1doe]

Give credit to who? Wentz. He hasn't done anything to get credit.

Yeah, four wins as a rookie with no one considered elite at the skill positions is not doing anything?

Wentz has an elite defense.

I'm sorry, is anyone on defense catching balls? Does the defense score all of Philly's points?

....Wentz throws behind the line of scrimmage

You mean the balls he throws are behind the line of scrimmage?

and didn't complete 1 pass over 15 yards. 10 yards and less.

So? When did the criterion for a good quarterback become you had to complete passes 20 yards down the field?
And you'll notice a similar criticism was applied to Dak too, i.e., that he's not accurate with the deep ball, and he takes the short throws. But so what? Those are part of the game also.
That's a silly argument.

I'm not giving credit to that, he lost.

So does Tony Romo. It's interesting to see that you're validating everything that has been said about Romo in your criticism of Wentz.

So take your Wentz loving crap somewhere else because your aren't a Cowboys fan, you're a Wentz fan.

Do you understand how juvenile you sound?

It's pathetic that people are falling for this crap. Wentz has playmakers on offense.

Like who? Darren Sproules? You think Sproules is a playmaker on the order of Zeke Elliott?
You're just making stuff up as you go.

Dak has recievers dropping passes so what.

Wentz has receivers dropping passes too. So what, as you say.

Sproles was out rushing Zeke until the 4th quarter. Stop it

This shows how myopic you are.
First, the Eagles started to feature Sproules as a running back THIS game. So without him in this position, the Eagles - led by Wentz - won four games. Meanwhile, Zeke has been starting ALL of the games the Cowboys have played.
Second, you just invalidated your own argument. So if Wentz was winning with Sproules carrying the load, doesn't that make his success squarely on Sproules' shoulders? And if Zeke outrushed Sproules in the fourth quarter, doesn't that mean Dak's success is on Zeke's shoulders?
Oh, and by the way, the Eagles were winning prior to the fourth quarter.

Wentz is good. You may not like it, but he is. And most GMs and coaches outside of the Cowboys coaches and GM would STILL take Wentz over Dak.

That's not a knock on Dak - except to overly sensitive Cowboys fans. I'm glad we have him. But, as I said, I don't have to alter reality because a player on a division rival is good. Maturity has a way of establishing proper perspective.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He's right though...

Maybe, but then again, if you hadn't hired Chip Kelly, made all of those stupid signs, and then make a trade to move up in the draft, you might have been able to have that kind of talent around him. On the other hand, if you don't trade up, then you never get Wentz so really, all of this is a load of crap to begin with. This is one of those, "Don't worry about hitching the horse, just load the wagon" kinda articles to me.