Pick One Guy from the front office or coaching to have in Dallas

[OAM]

Bill Belichick

He trumps them all. No better coach out there and Jerry will never give up the GM title to anyone other than a Jones.

I can't believe I'm hearing people say namelike Urban Meyer and Rex Ryan. Heck I'm hearing if we had our choice of anyone for coach or head office people are saying Jason Garrett for HC? I'd take Belichick over any of them.

 

[Alexander]

Pick one guy from the Front Office or Coaching, to have here in Dallas, which one would it be? No players, just Coach or someone from the Front Office.

I think I'd pick Ozzie Newsome. If I could pick just one guy, that would probably be it.

Good choice. Pioli in a heartbeat. I take the Front Office every time. Install the philosophy, draft the right players to fit it and then work with the coaching.

 

[theogt]

Well, Marshall said some nice things about Garrett in the interview he's referencing. There's a reason ** can't see it, but it's not because the evidence isnt' there.

I've never heard a coach who's coached with Garrett say anything other than that he's whip-smart, organized, and has the aura of a head coach.

The closest I've ever heard a player come to criticizing him was Romo's comments about the team failing to make adjustments in one game. Garrett wasn't even mentioned by name. Our offense improved significantly when he took it over. Our players--including players who've played for other top coaches--rave about him. He's aggressive, loyal, and hardworking. He's handled a tough situation with Wade gracefully and professionally. He had a dropoff this year, but it's been carefully explained to me that that was because his QB isn't very good because he went to Cabo once and doesn't scream at people in the huddle.

I've heard 3-4 players criticize his offense. And I've heard at least one coach criticize his offense. Maybe there's a reason you can't see those?

But yeah, platitudes are nice too.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

Cowher

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I don't think you could go wrong with Ozzie or Pioli (sp?) in the front office directing the draft and FA acquisitions.

 

[peplaw06]

And why isn't Jones promoting him? Maybe it's because Jones kept him last year with the potential opportunity ot make him the future head coach, making the Job Garrett's to lose, and in turn that's exactly what he did -- lose it? Maybe, just maybe? I have given reasons why Garrett should not be promoted, but none of his apologists can still answer my question "What has Garrett done to warrant this promotion?" So far everyone's silence of a non-answer is answer enough.

So Jerry has said that the coaching staff will remain in place, as opposed to promoting Garrett to head coach right now.... and that's your evidence that Garrett has fallen out of favor with Jerry, mainly for these reasons that Marshall Faulk and you see... he can't make adjustments?

Meanwhile, Garrett is getting interviews for head coaching positions around the league, and none of that matters. Because the all-seeing and all-knowing Jerry Jones hasn't yet promoted him to HC? I mean with as much Jerry hatred as there is on this board, that sounds bizarre to say the least......

 

[OAM]

Good choice. Pioli in a heartbeat. I take the Front Office every time. Install the philosophy, draft the right players to fit it and then work with the coaching.

I agree about front office first too but Jerry isn't going to do that. So give me Belichick, the best coach out there who also knows personnel.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Gotta love how the fact that people who don't want Garrett here, of don't think he's a good coach, are now being called stupid because they don't agree with the ones who do want him here and do think he's a good coach.

Man I love how the grown men on this forum do such a great job of respecting one anothers opinion.

 

[Hostile]

Gotta love how the fact that people who don't want Garrett here, of don't think he's a good coach, are now being called stupid because they don't agree with the ones who do want him here and do think he's a good coach.

Man I love how the grown men on this forum do such a great job of respecting one anothers opinion.

I didn't call anyone stupid. I said I'm not stupid. Read it again. I have my reasons for wanting him to stay and I listed them.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I read what you posted and the way it's posted makes it come off as if you're saying "yeah you like him and want him cause you're not stupid".

Maybe that's not the case but it reads as if you're saying you're not stupid cause you do like him and have your reasons and anyone else who doesn't like him, and would like him gone, must be stupid.


*Shrugs* Either way it's not really all that important I don't imagine. It's pretty much par for these forums anymore with the lack of respect we all show toward one anothers opinions.

 

[Hostile]

I read what you posted and the way it's posted makes it come off as if you're saying "yeah you like him and want him cause you're not stupid".

Maybe that's not the case but it reads as if you're saying you're not stupid cause you do like him and have your reasons and anyone else who doesn't like him, and would like him gone, must be stupid.


*Shrugs* Either way it's not really all that important I don't imagine. It's pretty much par for these forums anymore with the lack of respect we all show toward one anothers opinions.

Oh brother. I will edit it. The only thing I said is I am not stupid. It doesn't imply that anyone else is. In fact earlier in the post I mentioned that I would probably have been as critical of Landry as anyone else. But I learned from studying that History.

I hate Political Correctness, but I'll edit the friggin' post.

 

[TheCount]

Well, Marshall said some nice things about Garrett in the interview he's referencing. There's a reason ** can't see it, but it's not because the evidence isnt' there.

I've never heard a coach who's coached with Garrett say anything other than that he's whip-smart, organized, and has the aura of a head coach.

The closest I've ever heard a player come to criticizing him was Romo's comments about the team failing to make adjustments in one game. Garrett wasn't even mentioned by name. Our offense improved significantly when he took it over. Our players--including players who've played for other top coaches--rave about him. He's aggressive, loyal, and hardworking. He's handled a tough situation with Wade gracefully and professionally. He had a dropoff this year, but it's been carefully explained to me that that was because his QB isn't very good because he went to Cabo once and doesn't scream at people in the huddle.

What exactly is the tough situation with Wade that he's handled so well?

I also don't understand why it's okay to credit him with significantly improving our offense (which was actually pretty good the year before he took over) and then to get smart with what happened this year. He can't take credit for both?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Oh brother. I will edit it. The only thing I said is I am not stupid. It doesn't imply that anyone else is. In fact earlier in the post I mentioned that I would probably have been as critical of Landry as anyone else. But I learned from studying that History.

I hate Political Correctness, but I'll edit the friggin' post.

Dude you don't have to edit the post. Maybe I'm the only one who got that impression. It's quite possible I'm the only one who read that, or will read that, and feel that's how it came off.

But, whatever. Just because I said something about it doesn't mean I expect anyone to change their posts, or change how they respond to things, it was simply my opinion on in it.

I wouldn't edit one of my posts if someone got the wrong idea, or didn't like the way I put something.

 

[Hostile]

Dude you don't have to edit the post. Maybe I'm the only one who got that impression. It's quite possible I'm the only one who read that, or will read that, and feel that's how it came off.

But, whatever. Just because I said something about it doesn't mean I expect anyone to change their posts, or change how they respond to things, it was simply my opinion on in it.

I wouldn't edit one of my posts if someone got the wrong idea, or didn't like the way I put something.

It is changed. Softer. Gentler. Cleaner. Politically correct.

I deny the intent you claimed it had. I did not talk about anyone else. I talked about myself and how it related to football History. I even said I might have been among the critics wanting Landry gone. Period. I did not call anyone stupid.

But whatever, all hail PC worlds.

 

[Arch Stanton]

To answer this I am going to go back to 1954. The New York Giants had a player who was extremely smart. So smart that while he was still playing for them, they made him their Defensive Coordinator. Not DB Coach, LB Coach, or DL Coach. He was made the DC. His name, as I am sure you have guessed is Tom Landry.

He was a DC for 5 years when Clint Murchison signed him to be the first Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys. He was raw, virtually unproven, and brilliant. There was a time when his teams struggled to grasp his systems.

In 1965 he had a compiled coaching resume of 25-53-4. Fans and the media gave up on him. Some players did too. They started clamoring for him to be fired. To move on. Had I been an involved fan like I am now, I might have too. I am 100% sure that most of the fans on this forum would hate his guts and want him gone.

Tex Schramm, the man I consider to be the best GM in History, gave him a 10 year contract extension. What the hell was Tex doing? Couldn't he see the man couldn't coach? Couldn't he see that teams were on to his plays?

I am what you might call a Football Historian. I love the History of the game. Did you know that many consider Vince Lombardi to be the greatest Head Coach to ever stride the sidelines? That the Super Bowl trophy is named after him because his team won the first 2 of them? Okay, I am pretty sure you do know those things. Did you know that for most of his time coaching his Offense was predictable? I'm guessing you didn't. He had a Fullback named Jim Taylor who he ran a lot like Marion Barber. Like he took it personal.

Jim Taylor was Lombardi's "Bread and Butter." Teams knew he was going to get the ball and which direction he was going to run. The problem was stopping him. Sometimes they did. Sometimes they didn't. When they couldn't the chains moved and the Packers would score. You talk about predictability as if it is a crutch. If there is performance tied to that predictability it can be devastating. Green Bay is called Titletown for a reason.

I'm sure you are incredulously asking what this has to do with Jason Garrett? I did not dare just compare Jason Garrett to two Hall of Fame coaches. I did. The common factor between the 3? Football brilliance.

Back when Jason Garrett was the 3rd string QB here Jimmy Johnson (maybe you've heard of him) realized how brilliant Jason Garrett was and effectively assigned him to be the QB Coach for Troy Aikman. While he was still playing. After he left here and went to the Giants I saw an article where they talked about Jason Garrett understanding the Offensive system even better than the coaches and they often turned to him in meetings.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." --George Santayana, 1905 in his book Flux and Constancy in Human Nature.

If you want to turn a blind eye to the fact that Miami did not want to lose Jason Garrett, be my guest. If you wish to turn a blind eye to the fact that 4 other NFL teams have put him on the radar as a Head Coach, be my guest. If you choose to ignore the commentary of Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, Darren Woodson, Montrae Holland and even Terrell Owens on Garrett's knowledge of the game, be my guest. If you choose to ignore the fact that Jerry Jones made him the highest paid OC in the NFL in the hopes of him one day taking over as Head Coach, be my guest.

But don't ever for one minute in your life, waste your time thinking I am going to hop on board your Jason Garrett sucks bandwagon or agree with you about him. Don't waste your time. Stop asking me. Or learn the game and its History. I simply do not agree with the howling masses of fans and media who think this guy got figured out and it will doom this team. I simply don't agree. History has a way of repeating itself.

Fantastic post.

I'd really hate it if we lost Jason Garrett's talent from this team.

Even if he left, it would not surprise me if he came back as Head Coach sometime in the future.

 

[Hostile]

Fantastic post.

I'd really hate it if we lost Jason Garrett's talent from this team.

Even if he left, it would not surprise me if he came back as Head Coach sometime in the future.

I'm selfish. I don't want another team benefiting.

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

Scott Pioli...He just seems to be in tune w/ Billy B and his staff when it comes to which players fit best in their system.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I still don't see the connection between Landry and Garrett. At all.

Why is Jason going to be the next Landry again? Because he knew his team's playbook inside and out? Because he was like a coach on the field the starter? Because some teams have interviewed him for HC? That's it? That sounds like plenty of other young coaches over the years.

And it isn't that Garrett "sucks" for some of us. It's that all the accolades he's gotten are totally undeserving at this point. If he's truly this brilliant coaching mind, let it show up on the field for a while before we annoint him. Tom Landry was a GREAT defensive coordinator for a team that went to championship games more than once. Two years in a row now, Garrett can't even put up points on good defenses late in the year, and his QB has gone backwards. Looks like a big difference to me.

I get *wanting* Jason to have this storybook career where he takes over his old team and coaches it to Championships, but I need a lot more evidence before I believe it could be a reality.

 

[Hostile]

I still don't see the connection between Landry and Garrett. At all.

Why is Jason going to be the next Landry again? Because he knew his team's playbook inside and out? Because he was like a coach on the field the starter? Because some teams have interviewed him for HC? That's it? That sounds like plenty of other young coaches over the years.

And it isn't that Garrett "sucks" for some of us. It's that all the accolades he's gotten are totally undeserving at this point. If he's truly this brilliant coaching mind, let it show up on the field for a while before we annoint him. Tom Landry was a GREAT defensive coordinator for a team that went to championship games more than once. Two years in a row now, Garrett can't even put up points on good defenses late in the year, and his QB has gone backwards. Looks like a big difference to me.

I get *wanting* Jason to have this storybook career where he takes over his old team and coaches it to Championships, but I need a lot more evidence before I believe it could be a reality.

It isn't a connection. It's a similarity based upon brilliance for the game. Some people have it. Some have an aura that pushes others to perform. Some are hucksters who get a job they don't deserve because they interview well.

I'm saying brilliance is an intangible that is an ingredient for a long term run of success, which is important to me.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

It isn't a connection. It's a similarity based upon brilliance for the game. Some people have it. Some have an aura that pushes others to perform. Some are hucksters who get a job they don't deserve because they interview well.

I'm saying brilliance is an intangible that is an ingredient for a long term run of success, which is important to me.

See, I don't know Garrett personally at all (obviously), but IMO he's much more the huckster than the charismatic leader. Huckster is a little strong, because that implies he's deliberately deceitful. But still, take away the Princeton resume and polished interview style, and what do you have? Someone whose side of the ball went backwards when the experienced everyman hand-holder Sparano left town.

Besides, let's face it, football isn't rocket science anyway. Landry is my all-time favorite coach by far, but there have been far more successful salty tough guy types who have been successful than clinical X and O genius types like Landry and Walsh.

Like I say, maybe Garrett has some leadership quality that I'm missing. But when I see him interviewed or even see him on the weekly coaches show, all I see are cliches and that "I'm smarter than you" smile.