Plane crashes into Austin office building

[ethiostar]

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

The guy was a nut job for sure but I don't think he was pro communism by his above statement. Nothing in his rant made me think of that. I took the last lines quoted above simply as his attempt to play on words by borrowing another well known credo.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I feel really sad for his daughter. Some kind of legacy to live with, that your Dad tried to kill you in a fire and was a certifiable nut job.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I take it back that the guy was nuts. He was just an a hole who thought his problems in the world were more important than the innocent lives around him that he put in danger.

Agreed. I can understand his desperation. But he is a total a hole.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

The guy was a nut job for sure but I don't think he was pro communism by his above statement. Nothing in his rant made me think of that. I took the last lines quoted above simply as his attempt to play on words by borrowing another well known credo.

Just my 2 cents.

He was not a communist by any means. The guy seems like a capitalist, but I think he just got tired of government and corporate corruption. His points about the bailouts, etc. are well taken from my standpoint. The fact he tried to kill everyone in that building isn't.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

It was just reported that the pilot's wife and daughter were in the house when he set fire to it and that they were rescued by a neighbor.

After reading his manifesto, I have one question: Does he have any sense of history? If he wants to see unheralded levels of unbridled greed and corrupt government officials standing on the backs of the working class, he should examine the very communist system of which he speaks so fondly.

It seems that most of this person's financial problems were his own doing. There are plenty of independent engineers who are very successful.

Where did he speak fondly of communism? It seems the communist aspect of the government is what he didn't like. With communism, the government has control of the resources and I think he felt like he had no control over resources or any aspect of his own financial well-being.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Where did he speak fondly of communism? It seems the communist aspect of the government is what he didn't like. With communism, the government has control of the resources and I think he felt like he had no control over resources or any aspect of his own financial well-being.

He was clearly making a comparison between capitalism and communism in which communism emerged as the favorable option.

I never called him a communist; I have no idea what his ideological bents are. I'm merely pointing out his skewed and largely inaccurate sense of history.

 

[daschoo]

It was just reported that the pilot's wife and daughter were in the house when he set fire to it and that they were rescued by a neighbor.

After reading his manifesto, I have one question: Does he have any sense of history? If he wants to see unheralded levels of unbridled greed and corrupt government officials standing on the backs of the working class, he should examine the very communist system of which he speaks so fondly.

It seems that most of this person's financial problems were his own doing. There are plenty of independent engineers who are very successful.

couldn't agree more. communism theoretically is an exemplary system in my opinion. where it falls down is unfortunately the fairly major flaw for any system of governance, human nature. people naturally will take what they can for themselves and their families so odds are the officials will be corrupt and obviously you will get scroungers who rely on the state. i remember watching a show over here with a scouser comedian who had been a very vocal supporter of communism being asked why he had given up his communist beliefs his response - he laughed and said "didn't really work out did it?" kind of summed it up. also one of my friends was a staunch believer in communism and is still pro castro but now has his own business. its great in theory but simply doesn't work when put into practice.

can never get my head round people who kill themselves in this kind of way. get a rope or something, just because you want to end your life you can't justify taking others regardless of how wronged you feel.

 

[vta]

The guy was a nut job for sure but I don't think he was pro communism by his above statement. Nothing in his rant made me think of that. I took the last lines quoted above simply as his attempt to play on words by borrowing another well known credo.

Just my 2 cents.

Where did he speak fondly of communism? It seems the communist aspect of the government is what he didn't like. With communism, the government has control of the resources and I think he felt like he had no control over resources or any aspect of his own financial well-being.

It's fairly easy to see by his own treatment in those two sentences what his sentiments are.

The communist creed is pretty much objectively stated, while the capitalist creed is subjective and derogatory.

 

[ethiostar]

He was not a communist by any means. The guy seems like a capitalist, but I think he just got tired of government and corporate corruption. His points about the bailouts, etc. are well taken from my standpoint. The fact he tried to kill everyone in that building isn't.

It never is, and there is nothing that would justify that kind of action to me.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

He was only a communist during the last day of his life.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

How can any rational individual explain that white elephant conundrum in the middle of our tax system and, indeed, our entire legal system? Here we have a system that is, by far, too complicated for the brightest of the master scholars to understand. Yet, it mercilessly “holds accountable” its victims, claiming that they’re responsible for fully complying with laws not even the experts understand. The law “requires” a signature on the bottom of a tax filing; yet no one can say truthfully that they understand what they are signing; if that’s not “duress” than what is. If this is not the measure of a totalitarian regime, nothing is.

I can agree with this much. Even the most clever of lawyers can't interpret the loads and loads of tax laws our country has. Make no mistake, these laws favor corporations and wealthy people--and no one else.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I can agree with this much. Even the most clever of lawyers can't interpret the loads and loads of tax laws our country has. Make no mistake, these laws favor corporations and wealthy people--and no one else.

Assuming the suicide letter is authentic, the irony here is that the very tax bill it references--the Tax Reform Act of 1986--actually simplified the tax code, eliminating many tax shelters.

 

[dillinger319]

Its a wonder that more people were not hurt... Seems kinda planned out for sure.. Maybe hes been in that building a time or two and knew where to hit it to inflict the most damage without casualties.

Its seems as though he screwed up and couldnt get himself out of it. I can say that some of his opinions I share with him but doing something of this magnitude, while does get people to pay attention, will only further hinder the truth.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Assuming the suicide letter is authentic, the irony here is that the very tax bill it references--the Tax Reform Act of 1986--actually simplified the tax code, eliminating many tax shelters.

The reality of it is, no code on the books today "simplifies" tax codes. Ask many of the lawyers on this board. They will tell you. I'm merely an aspiring lawyer at this point. And I will never touch tax law because it's simply too complicated.

And you nor I could even begin to count the statutes that have been made since 1986.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Its a wonder that more people were not hurt... Seems kinda planned out for sure.. Maybe hes been in that building a time or two and knew where to hit it to inflict the most damage without casualties.

Its seems as though he screwed up and couldnt get himself out of it. I can say that some of his opinions I share with him but doing something of this magnitude, while does get people to pay attention, will only further hinder the truth.

I would assume he had been inside that building. Read the letter he wrote. It's very telling about what he was going through. He had a tax lawyer who didn't help him with the IRS. But I'm certain, simply due to the nature and circumstances surrounding the event, that he had been in the building.

 

[vta]

I can agree with this much. Even the most clever of lawyers can't interpret the loads and loads of tax laws our country has. Make no mistake, these laws favor corporations and wealthy people--and no one else.

I don't agree with any of it. What he'd written is an excuse.
A system is only as good as the people who run it. It has no independent will to hurt anyone. The flawed thinking of people- like that of this self important clown - is the problem. Humanity and it's self serving behavior. His stance is subjective and based on his experiences which he wants to apply as a general rule for everybody and validate his garbage reaction to it.

Communism, Fascism, Capitalism, whatever; just institutions all at the mercy of human flaws. Do you allow your own humanity to be altered because of other people's evils? Do lower yourself to a level even beneath that of the crooks as validation?

If there was any sense of truth to his contention he'd try to make a change for the good of himself, his family and everybody else. Instead he chose to lash out and try to hurt people.

His flaw is his and his alone.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

The reality of it is, no code on the books today "simplifies" tax codes. Ask many of the lawyers on this board. They will tell you. I'm merely an aspiring lawyer at this point. And I will never touch tax law because it's simply too complicated.

And you nor I could even begin to count the statutes that have been made since 1986.

I agree that tax law is never simple. But I seriously doubt it's never been simplified.

Below is an excerpt from a Prentice Hall textbook that, among other things, asserts that the Tax Reform Act of 1986 "simplified" tax law:

http://cwx.prenhall.com/bookbind/pubbooks/dye4/medialib/docs/tax1986.htm

In addition to being deeply disturbed, Mr. Stack seems to have a few inaccuracies among his facts.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I agree that tax law is never simple. But I seriously doubt it's never been simplified.

Below is an excerpt from a Prentice Hall textbook that, among other things, asserts that the Tax Reform Act of 1986 "simplified" tax law:

http://cwx.prenhall.com/bookbind/pubbooks/dye4/medialib/docs/tax1986.htm

In addition to being deeply disturbed, Mr. Stack seems to have a few inaccuracies among his facts.

You're simply wrong. I guess it depends on your definition of simple. Just pick up the phone book and ask any tax lawyer if tax law is simple. You'd surely be in for a rude awakening.

He may have been disturbed, but his analogy about the tax codes is spot on.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I don't agree with any of it. What he'd written is an excuse.
A system is only as good as the people who run it. It has no independent will to hurt anyone. The flawed thinking of people- like that of this self important clown - is the problem. Humanity and it's self serving behavior. His stance is subjective and based on his experiences which he wants to apply as a general rule for everybody and validate his garbage reaction to it.

Communism, Fascism, Capitalism, whatever; just institutions all at the mercy of human flaws. Do you allow your own humanity to be altered because of other people's evils? Do lower yourself to a level even beneath that of the crooks as validation?

If there was any sense of truth to his contention he'd try to make a change for the good of himself, his family and everybody else. Instead he chose to lash out and try to hurt people.

His flaw is his and his alone.

I' not saying it's justified. I was saying that his actions aside, that he does make some coherent points in what he himself calls a rant.

 

[vta]

I' not saying it's justified. I was saying that his actions aside, that he does make some coherent points in what he himself calls a rant.

Understood, pardon my rant.