Plasticman's Jerry Jones Rant

[Plankton]

Was it Duane Thomas who said that about Landry?

Yes. It was part of a rant where Thomas assailed Tom Landry, Gil Brandt and Tex Schramm. This was after he reported to camp in 1971, and was the last time he spoke to the press until the Super Bowl.

Of Landry, he said, "He's a plastic man, not a man at all."

Of Brandt, he said, "He has the mentality of a street pimp."

Of Schramm, he said that he was "....sick, demented and totally dishonest." When apprised of these comments, Schramm said, "That's good. He got two out of three."

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Jerry like any CEO is only as good as the people around him. Parcells talked about how Jerry does listen to those around him and the fact that he does is a big reason Johnny Football ended up in Cleveland not Dallas. If Jerry continues to lean on those people like McCray, Stephen and yes Garrett then I expect quality players in here. Jerry may love the spotlight but he is not trying to be a 1 man show

But when you hear the man admit out of his own mouth "if I could've drafted Johnny Manziel, the Cowboys would be relevant for the next 10 years"...and hear him LAMENT not being able to draft Jonny Manziel AFTER....AFTER Zach Martin made All Pro as a rookie...AND....AND....after Johnny Football had proven to be a bust on and off the field....all I could do was say "My God..help us"!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[plasticman]

The 2010 Season: Coach Jones

Here is a question:

When an NFL team has an offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator that both amswer directly to the same person, then what is the title of that person?

In 2010 for the Ciwboys that person was Jerry Jones.

Jason Garrett, the offensive coorsinator did not answer ro Wade Phillips, the Head Coach.....officially.

You see, Jerry saw no need to hire a defensive coordinator, he already had one in Wade Phillips. The only circumstances in which Wade Phillips became incolved offensively were the actuall games in cases were a Head Coach decision had to be mad.e. Otherwise, Phillips knew nothing about the offensive strategy.

Coach Jones would even instruct Jason Garrett to use certain plays with certain personnel.

In the very first drive of the first game of the season avainst the Commanders the Cowboys drive to the Commanders 32 and it's 1st and ten. The runnIng game looked good. The passing game looked good. This was despite two starting O-linemen being out. Thia was going to be a low scoring game amd a TD on the opening drive could set the tone for the game and the entire season.

It was at this point that the Cowboy's rookie first round pick came into the game. It was a curious move since Dez Bryant had been injured during preseason and didn't play a single down of preseason football.

It would be underatandable that Dez would come into the game at some point, but the first drive? At a critical point in opponent territory? With 0 game experience? After serving a college suspension? What could they be thinking? What play did they feel comfortable running with a guy who had not seen live action for almost a full year.

The first down was a sideline pass to Dez, stopped cold because he was covered by a pro bowl CB. 2nd down? Same exact play, same exact results. On 3rd and 9 Romo threw another quick sideline pass, but this time to Roy Williams at the opposite end. Incomplete. The Cowboys were forced to punt


That drive pretty much described the fiest half of the season, they went 1-7.

Jerry Jones was more focused on proving how smart he was for drafting Dez Bryant than he was on winning the game. He couldn't wait roll him out despite Dez being almost totally unprepared.

The defense never seemed to be on the aamw page as the offense, it always aeemed like rhey were playing different games. The most pathetic point of rhw season was after thw Packer humiliation when a stumbling mumbling Jerry Jones promised to find out what went wrong. The next day Phillips was fired.

 

[Doomsday101]

But when you hear the man admit out of his own mouth "if I could've drafted Johnny Manziel, the Cowboys would be relevant for the next 10 years"...and hear him LAMENT not being able to draft Jonny Manziel AFTER....AFTER Zach Martin made All Pro as a rookie...AND....AND....after Johnny Football had proven to be a bust on and off the field....all I could do was say "My God..help us"!!!!!!!!!!!

Did the Cowboys draft Manziel? NO he listens to others within the organization, Hell you prove my point. If it was Jerry acting without the advice of those he has hired maybe he does take Manziel. Most felt the Cowboys would and many others felt Manzeil would go before Dallas. Houston fans wanted him badly. Lets not act as if Manziel was slated as a late rd pick he was considered by most to be a 1st.

 

[Doomsday]

Jerry Jones is going into the HOF for what he has done for the league in terms of marketing and helping it grow financially more than the 3 Super Bowls he won.

If you don't see that you are blinded with hatred.

Also, with a young team, an extra week of training camp is a good thing.

 

[Trouty]

Jerry Jones is going into the HOF for what he has done for the league in terms of marketing and helping it grow financially more than the 3 Super Bowls he won.

If you don't see that you are blinded with hatred.

Also, with a young team, an extra week of training camp is a good thing.

No, we know that. That's our problem. He isn't going in for being a winning owner. Jimmy built those teams. Jimmy leaves, his construct leaves, no more titles (Switz was JJ's construct).

Like you said. Marketing. Blech.

 

[viman96]

You underestimate his desire to grab as much credit as possible, not to mention his insistence on constant attention

Example:

Jerry Jones isn't satisfied with just his induction into the Hall of Fame, an elaborate joke by the HOF voters on the Cowboy organization and fans, by the way....more about that later....no, Jerry has to extend the honor and be the center of attention beyond the ceremony.

So what does he do?

Well, of course, he volunteers his team to an additional preseason game, thus increasing the possibility of injury to a key player. The Cowboys are in the Hall of Fame game because Jones requires far more media attention than your average HOFer.

This just demonstrates his priorities to all Cowboy fans. Personal attention is far more important than not placing the team at unnecessary risk.

Thia isn't the first time Jones jas taken unnessecary risk. He also volunteered the Cowboys for the 2010 Hall of Fame game, Emmitt Smith"s induction year. Right on cue, the Cowboys lost TE John Phillips for the year. Hee had looked great all training camp and caught 4 passes for 60 yards. Some O-linemen got nicked which contributed to them not being ready for the start of the season.

Anyone remember how 2010 turned out? Sadly, that was the year the Super Bowl was played in Dallas.

So Jerry hasn't changed all that much. He can still make his "contributions" to the season.

I mean, what happens of we lose a key player foe the seaon in a game they didn't have to play. Was it worth it?

Are you positive Jerry volunteered the Cowboys to play in the HOF game? The league typically chooses the teams. And if a noteworthy person of said team is being enshrined then it is very likely their team plays the HOF game.

 

[viman96]

As an owner, Jerry, was 100% responsible for building the SB winning teams. He hired Jimmy. He enabled Jimmy. That is what owners do. Had Kraft done more than Jerry in building his SB winning teams? No. Does he deserve to be inducted to the HOF? Of course he does. And when it comes to the league stuff, many of the owners lean on Jerry to get crap done. Jerry 100% deserves to be in the HOF.

 

[Trouty]

As an owner, Jerry, was 100% responsible for building the SB winning teams. He hired Jimmy. He enabled Jimmy. That is what owners do. Had Kraft done more than Jerry in building his SB winning teams? No. Does he deserve to be inducted to the HOF? Of course he does. And when it comes to the league stuff, many of the owners lean on Jerry to get crap done. Jerry 100% deserves to be in the HOF.

He deserves it. But based off of 6 years and whoopty do marketing. Marketing that gives us 1hr of commercials a game.

Kraft deserves it for two decades of flawless football ownership.

They are incomparable.

 

[Doomsay]

Jerry has saddled us with a coach that cannot get beyond the divisional round no matter how much talent / health/ home field advantage/ he has been gifted.

Nobody on this forum can make a persuasive argument in support of Jason as a playoff coach. Screw Jerry.

 

[Ranched]

You give Jerry to much credit. He doesn't have the power to do that any more.

He couldn't even draft Johnny Football.

For starters, Jerry wanted Johnny Dopeball. It was Stephen who talked his father out of getting the kid. As far as power, he still has it all, but his decisions are limited when it comes to the Cowboys. This is why our team has finally come together again from days gone by. Jerry is a self-made Billionaire.Yes, BILLIONAIRE.
Jerry is a marketing and promotion guru who set the standard of facility excellence with AT&T Stadium and The Star in Frisco. Architect of one of sports’ biggest-ever television contracts. Also won three Super Bowls. Let's not forget that. Like him or not, we'd only have 2 rings without him and a dinky stadium.

 

[Dodger12]

Jerry is a marketing and promotion guru who set the standard of facility excellence with AT&T Stadium and The Star in Frisco. Architect of one of sports’ biggest-ever television contracts. Also won three Super Bowls. Let's not forget that. Like him or not, we'd only have 2 rings without him and a dinky stadium.

How do you know we'd only have 2 SB rings without Jerry? The team set the standard of excellence long before Jerry. They were America's Team long before Jerry. They won SB's and played in them long before Jerry. As a matter of fact, Jerry has overseen some the longest stretch of football futility in Cowboy's history. I can just as easily say another owner would have been more committed to winning than Jerry.

And I don't care about the "Star" or a stadium that is built more for entertainment than football. How has that translated to winning Superbowls?

 

[Dodger12]

As an owner, Jerry, was 100% responsible for building the SB winning teams. He hired Jimmy. He enabled Jimmy. That is what owners do. Had Kraft done more than Jerry in building his SB winning teams? No. Does he deserve to be inducted to the HOF? Of course he does. And when it comes to the league stuff, many of the owners lean on Jerry to get crap done. Jerry 100% deserves to be in the HOF.

Since Kraft bought the Pats, they've made the playoffs 18 times in 23 years and have been to 8 SB's, winning 5. The day Kraft didn't interfere with the football operations and fire his golden goose HC was the day Kraft did more than Jerry in building his SB teams.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Never understood people hating those they've never met.

 

[Ranched]

How do you know we'd only have 2 SB rings without Jerry? The team set the standard of excellence long before Jerry. They were America's Team long before Jerry. They won SB's and played in them long before Jerry. As a matter of fact, Jerry has overseen some the longest stretch of football futility in Cowboy's history. I can just as easily say another owner would have been more committed to winning than Jerry.

And I don't care about the "Star" or a stadium that is built more for entertainment than football. How has that translated to winning Superbowls?

 

[Ranched]

Since Kraft bought the Pats, they've made the playoffs 18 times in 23 years and have been to 8 SB's, winning 5. The day Kraft didn't interfere with the football operations and fire his golden goose HC was the day Kraft did more than Jerry in building his SB teams.

So glad Jerry didn't take 23yrs to win his first 3 SB's. He won 3 in 4 with a HC he hired. And, it only took him 28 yrs to be inducted into the HOF. Hec, even Al Davis made the HOF with only ONE SB ring. Ole Al owned the Raiders for 45 yrs and got in. Imagine that. Where's your buddy Kraft?

 

[xwalker]

I hereby declare this single thread to be the headquarters for expressing my opinion of Jerry Jones.

From this day forward, anytime I feel the need to express these thoughts, it will not effect the original post that I was responding to. I will simply build the link to this thread.

I do this out of respect for all my fellow posters so as not to deviate from the subject matter of other posts

Besides, my opinion may actually offend others, though not nearly as much as Jerry Jones offends his fans, the Cowboy's history, genuine NFL professional executives and the very game itself.

Jerry Jones is the Great Destroyer.

No matter how long it takes for others to build a winning team with the potential of lasting a decade, Jerry can rip it all apart in two years. He has already done this twice and if he is not properly restrained, he will certainly do it again.

It is difficult to know where to start, there seems an infinite number of possibilities. The important thing is that it doesn't have to be tonight.

However when I am ready I promise it will be eloquent.

Day late, dollar short.

It's past time to rant about Jerry.

He has many many screw-ups (Randy Moss, Joey Galloway, Roy WR Willams, Claiborne, 2009 draft, cutting Jimmy Smith, etc..); however, the mistakes have been minimal in recent years. I guess you could blame him for Randy Gregory. Maybe Greg Hardy and Rolando McClain, but those didn't require draft picks or significant resources and Hardy played well.

The last big mistake was Claiborne.

 

[xwalker]

You guys think JJ has every had anyone whacked before? I like to think so.

The guy with the cell phone video of Dez dragging a girl through the Walmart parking lot...

 

[xwalker]

@Dodger12

Tom Landry won 2 Super Bowls in 29 years.

Jerry won 3 in his first 6 years as an owner...

 

[plasticman]

Day late, dollar short.

It's past time to rant about Jerry.

He has many many screw-ups (Randy Moss, Joey Galloway, Roy WR Willams, Claiborne, 2009 draft, cutting Jimmy Smith, etc..); however, the mistakes have been minimal in recent years. I guess you could blame him for Randy Gregory. Maybe Greg Hardy and Rolando McClain, but those didn't require draft picks or significant resources and Hardy played well.

The last big mistake was Claiborne.

I hope you are correct but I am still skeptical. I think there is always the potential that Jerry Jones will wake up some day and remember that, hey, he's Jerry Jones. Being selected to the Hall of Fame could awaken his destructive powers.

I think I can name several other mistakes after Claiborne. I think he was the driving force in not resigning Murray, the quick change from Weeden to Cassel, signing Hardy.....and playing in this year's Hall of Fame game. I realize there was a committee that selected opponents but if he didn't encourage the Cowboys playing he sure didn't protest. Three Hall of Fame games in the past seven seasons is excessive and the Cowboys could have gotten out of it.


Now we have to watch and hope we don't lose a player. Preseason games are like playing Russian Roulette with the injury bug.