Players Dallas Has Shown Interest In - 2017

[Alexander]

Lol?

Someone forgot to tell Terrelle Suggs, Dumervill, J.J. Watt, Tambi Hali, et cetera.

Short area quickness is far more important than a 40 time when evaluating a pass rusher.

If they are quick off the ball, can fight off blocks when the defenders gets their hands on them and can bend to close on the QB, it is irrelevant if they run .3 seconds slower in a 40 yard dash.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Short area quickness is far more important than a 40 time when evaluating a pass rusher.

If they are quick off the ball, can fight off blocks when the defenders gets their hands on them and can bend to close on the QB, it is irrelevant if they run .3 seconds slower in a 40 yard dash.

Bingo.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Cowboys are really flopping with the wr search so far. I'll be patient though

 

[Risen Star]

Lol?

Someone forgot to tell Terrelle Suggs, Dumervill, J.J. Watt, Tambi Hali, et cetera.

You see it every year. People put way too much stock in workouts.

 

[Future]

Ross, Joe Blow, anybody, I don't care, but we have to do better in the return game than Lucky Whitehead.

I don't get why people care about this so much.

Dallas was 12th in Y/KR and 15th in Y/PR.

Atlanta was 11th in Y/KR and 8th in Y/PR (only .9 Y/PR greater than Dallas)
NE was 30th in Y/KR and 31st in Y/PR.

We aren't going to win more games by improving our return game.

 

[RS12]

I don't get why people care about this so much.

Dallas was 12th in Y/KR and 15th in Y/PR.

Atlanta was 11th in Y/KR and 8th in Y/PR (only .9 Y/PR greater than Dallas)
NE was 30th in Y/KR and 31st in Y/PR.

We aren't going to win more games by improving our return game.

I think it is more Lucky looks like turn over waiting to happen. Dont trust the guy at all. If Williams, Butler, and Lucky disapear, I wont shed a tear.

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

I know Dallas needs to stock up on defensive players and especially pressure players, but man Dion Dawkins/Temple or Adam Bisnowaty/Pitt would be awesome additions to this offensive line. Those are two nasty players that would look real good plugged in at RT!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I don't get why people care about this so much.

Dallas was 12th in Y/KR and 15th in Y/PR.

Atlanta was 11th in Y/KR and 8th in Y/PR (only .9 Y/PR greater than Dallas)
NE was 30th in Y/KR and 31st in Y/PR.

We aren't going to win more games by improving our return game.

First, your numbers are bunk.

Dallas was both 23rd in the NFL in KR/avg. at just 20.5 and in PR/avg. at just 7.1 yards a return.

Secondly, that's simply a braindead perspective to think special teams doesn't matter. You should always look at every opportunity provided to impact the game (i.e. special teams scoring, flipping field position, etc.)

Our longest KR this year was 33 yards. That's just 8 yards more than what they spot you for a touchback.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/returning/sort/yardsPerKickReturn/seasontype/2

 

[AmishCowboy]

Heard Cowboys interviewed Darboh, the WR from Michigan, any truth to this?

 

[RS12]

Heard Cowboys interviewed Darboh, the WR from Michigan, any truth to this?

Spent time with him at the SB, so apparently some level of interest.

 

[Future]

First, your numbers are bunk.

Dallas was both 23rd in the NFL in KR/avg. at just 20.5 and in PR/avg. at just 7.1 yards a return.

Secondly, that's simply a braindead perspective to think special teams doesn't matter. You should always look at every opportunity provided to impact the game (i.e. special teams scoring, flipping field position, etc.)

Our longest KR this year was 33 yards. That's just 8 yards more than what they spot you for a touchback.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/returning/sort/yardsPerKickReturn/seasontype/2

Shoot I was looking at the wrong table. Either way, needing a better returner doesn't matter lol - we're better than NE in both categories and about the same as ATL in KR. Plus, sample sizes are so small that 1 big return can skew all of that data. Add a 100 yard return and Dallas would go all the way up to 9th.

I didn't say special teams doesn't matter, as a whole though. So don't put words in my mouth. Why do so many posters on this board do that? It's beyond annoying.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Shoot I was looking at the wrong table. Either way, needing a better returner doesn't matter lol - we're better than NE in both categories and about the same as ATL in KR. Plus, sample sizes are so small that 1 big return can skew all of that data. Add a 100 yard return and Dallas would go all the way up to 9th.

I didn't say special teams doesn't matter, as a whole though. So don't put words in my mouth. Why do so many posters on this board do that? It's beyond annoying.

More deep analysis I see.

What New England or any other team is doing is irrelevant because special teams is just one of three components of every team. New England had the no. 1 defense in the league (pts. allowed) that benefited the team. You can't look at stats in a vacuum; we don't have the same benefits and issues the Patriots do.

Not understanding the value of an effective KR/PR game is myopic.

 

[Future]

More deep analysis I see.

What New England or any other team is doing is irrelevant because special teams is just one of three components of every team. New England had the no. 1 defense in the league (pts. allowed) that benefited the team. You can't look at stats in a vacuum; we don't have the same benefits and issues the Patriots do.

Not understanding the value of an effective KR/PR game is myopic.

There is NO VALUE, in terms of wins and losses, to a good return game. It does matter what NE does, because they're in the Super Bowl.

Here's the last 10 SB winners and where they rank in Y/KR and Y/PR

Denver - 27 21
New England - 28 16
Seattle - 13 31
Baltimore - 20 26
New York - 22 16
Green Bay - 20 8
New Orleans - 4 1
Pittsburgh - 32 29
New York - 11 28
Indianapolis - 3 2

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that a strong return game gives you any better chance of winning a Super Bowl. It's irrelevant. You can fair catch every punt and down every kickoff in the endzone and you're no worse or better off. There are parts of special teams that do matter, like field goals, I-20 punts and good coverage units, but there's nothing to suggest that having a good return game leads to winning.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

There is NO VALUE, in terms of wins and losses, to a good return game. It does matter what NE does, because they're in the Super Bowl.

Here's the last 10 SB winners and where they rank in Y/KR and Y/PR

Denver - 27 21
New England - 28 16
Seattle - 13 31
Baltimore - 20 26
New York - 22 16
Green Bay - 20 8
New Orleans - 4 1
Pittsburgh - 32 29
New York - 11 28
Indianapolis - 3 2

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that a strong return game gives you any better chance of winning a Super Bowl. It's irrelevant. You can fair catch every punt and down every kickoff in the endzone and you're no worse or better off. There are parts of special teams that do matter, like field goals, I-20 punts and good coverage units, but there's nothing to suggest that having a good return game leads to winning.

Loool, so according to your logic, to demonstrate whether a strong KR/PR game has value, the Super Bowl winner should be leading the league in those categories.

That's just brilliant.

As for your list of SB winners/rankings, once again, you're looking at statistics in a vacuum.

You can play this braindead game with any statistic...

Hey guys! Sacks aren't important! New England won the Super Bowl in 2015 despite being 28th in the NFL in sacks that year.

 

[Future]

Loool, so according to your logic, to demonstrate whether a strong KR/PR game has value, the Super Bowl winner should be leading the league in those categories.

That's just brilliant.

As for your list of SB winners/rankings, once again, you're looking at statistics in a vacuum.

You can play this braindead game with any statistic...

Hey guys! Sacks aren't important! New England won the Super Bowl in 2015 despite being 28th in the NFL in sacks that year.

I showed you 10 years of it. That's a trend, not a vacuum. A return game is completely irrelevant in today's NFL. Idk how actual, you know, data, is braindead. It's not like you're saying anything other than "a return game matters because I said so."

And yea, sacks, in and of themselves, are completely meaningless. There's like 50 defensive stats that matter before sacks.

 

[theogt]

You see it every year. People put way too much stock in workouts.

The workouts have become an incredible predictor of where a player is picked, however. And also of actual future production. Not perfect, but very, very good considering the limited data we do have on prospects.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

BTW, I wonder if the Ravens valued Jacoby Jones 109-yard kick return for TD in SB XLVII when they beat the 49ers 34-31.

Limme guess....buh, buh, that's different!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I showed you 10 years of it. That's a trend, not a vacuum. A return game is completely irrelevant in today's NFL. Idk how actual, you know, data, is braindead. It's not like you're saying anything other than "a return game matters because I said so."

And yea, sacks, in and of themselves, are completely meaningless. There's like 50 defensive stats that matter before sacks.

Lool, smh.

Trying to make an over-simplified correlation between SB winners and high-ranking KR/PR units is an attempt to look at stats in a vacuum, as if any SINGLE category of statistics can be blamed or credited for a team's SB success.

Your premise is fundamentally flawed.

 

[Future]

BTW, I wonder if the Ravens valued Jacoby Jones 109-yard kick return for TD in SB XLVII when they beat the 49ers 34-31.

Limme guess....buh, buh, that's different!

It is different, because it's one play.

If you want to go out and sign Cordarrelle Patterson because you think he is going to return a kick for a TD in the Super Bowl. Go ahead. If you think that's actually going to make us more of a contender next year, you're delusional.

 

[Floatyworm]

Good. He plays fast, smart and strong. People may say he's a reach at 27, but I wouldn't be upset with it.

Oh good lord