Please Explain This To Me About Brady

[Hoofbite]

A linebacker can intercept the ball and tell it was flat, but a qb playing the spot for the past, what, 23-24 years of his life apparently cannot?

Jackson has said he couldn't tell. Never took the ball to the sideline because he was suspicious, but took it to keep as a souvenir.

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[Stryker44]

Brady is a punk. As are Gronkowski and Belichick. I hope Sherman has another chat with them after the game.

 

[Hoofbite]

The ball doesn't weigh 13lbs ... its lbs per square inch.... you think someone could throw a 13 pound ball 70 yards...jeez

Uncle Rico could probably do it.

 

[kevinhickey]

The bottom line of this mess is that the refs checked the balls for both teams prior to the game and only New England's balls changed the psi ratings. The weather didn't change the readings, someone on their staff made the changes. Now New England is in charge of their own balls like the Colts; so they are guilty no matter how you want to look at it. Facts are facts, ignorance will not save them. Lie to the league investigators will only bring more problems down on them. We will probably hear this story right up to the kick off of the Super Bowl.
I'm hoping for draft picks, suspensions.

 

[mahoneybill]

He said in his presser that he likes a ball at exactly 12.5 pounds and that is "the perfect ball" for him.

He then says he never noticed the game balls being 15% lighter than regulation.



These two comments don't make sense. If you cannot tell if a ball is inflated to 13 pounds or if it is at 11 pounds, how the hell do you know you like a ball at 12.5? I mean, he said in his presser that he cant tell the difference between an 11 pound ball and a 13 pound ball, so how does he know that he likes a ball a "exactly 12.5 pounds" as he was quoted as saying several times?


Your honor, the witness is contradicting himself.

He was given that answer by a weasel ( no offense to attorneys on our site) lawyer....

 

[mahoneybill]

patriots should loose more than draft picks and a stupid fine. I mean come on this is there second time getting caught. Suspend bill from the superbowl and all next year while he is still be counted as a coach on the staff but cannot have any and i mean any interaction with the team.

Let Sean Payton determine his punishment.....

 

[Vinnie2u]

Pats are like tha girl in college. Got the looks, smart, comes from a wealthy family.. yet gets double D implants to get over the top..

 

[mahoneybill]

That is because you are a novice.................I bet a professional NASCAR driver can tell if the tires are 4 pounds off...............that's kinda the entire point, a professional should know.

If you get a chance watch the movie " Rush" regarding Austrian Formula One driver Nikki Lauda... He knew how to alter the race performance of the cars by lightening various parts of the frame, engine etc and what each change would do in terms of drag/acceleration/cornering.

Pro QB's can probably hit a 1 foot area at 10 yards 10 out of 10 times so they know exactly how a ball will perform.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Let Sean Payton determine his punishment.....

Now there is an interesting twist.

 

[MiddleStar]

Anyone notice that not a single NE RB lost a fumble all year? For the year NE lost 16 fumbles; 6 were by Brady, 5 by Edelman, Amendola and LaFell each lost one,a FB lost one, as did a LB and the LS.
BenJarvus Green-Ellis never lost a fumble in NE (588 touches) but lost 5 in Cincinnati (545 touches).

 

[tyke1doe]

Two interesting comments from Brady's press conference.
When asked whether he deflated the balls, Brady said, "I didn't deflate the ball." Of course, at least from the audio I heard, no one asked, "Did you ORDER someone to deflate the balls."
He was also asked "Are you a cheater." His response: "I don't believe I cheat." How do you answer that question any other way than, "No, I don't cheat!"?
I still like him and think he's a great quarterback. But I don't buy it that he didn't know the balls were deflated and didn't order them to be deflated.

 

[Primetime42]

 

[Spectre]

'competitive advantage' lol
The Pats outscored the Colts 28-0, and Brady went like 9/9 AFTER the balls in question were replaced with the legal ones.
'story' is kinda silly.

 

[khiladi]

And again, I hardly doubt this issue pertains to just Brady. This was for the benefit of the whole team.

The conditions were rainy and cold, making it harder to grip the ball. The Patriots had a clear game plan of running the ball and limiting the passing attack. They rushed forty times during that game and thirty times by Blount. In fact by the time it was 24-7, the Patriots ran a significant marging to wear down the Colts. I'm pretty sure the Patriots were trying to protect themselves from turning the ball over and that is a significant advantage. That is why they did it.

The Colts themselves had a difficult time holding on to the footballs as well. One could argue that if they made certain plays and not dropped some passes, it wouldn't have gotten out of hand so quickly, especially in the first half when the game was still close.

When Brady went 9-9, and the balls were fixed, the game had gotten out of hand by then. The Patriots had their first drive of pretty much Blount rushing the ball.

 

[khiladi]

benefit of playing in a lousy division and conference.

put them in the NFC and watch them not amount to jack.

They are light years better at home, no matter who they play. That's where their cheating advantage really shines through. They have like a ninety-percent home win record during this era. The rations are so skewed it's an anomaly and should raise serious flags, especially because of spygate. There half-time adjustments at home also, watch how different they are.

I knew when they got home field advantage through the play-offs this year, they would have a cake-walk through the play-offs. Remember the year they beat San Diego in the Conderence championship. Brady threw five picks on the road.

Shady Brady at home..

 

[daveferr33]

Two interesting comments from Brady's press conference.
When asked whether he deflated the balls, Brady said, "I didn't deflate the ball." Of course, at least from the audio I heard, no one asked, "Did you ORDER someone to deflate the balls."
He was also asked "Are you a cheater." His response: "I don't believe I cheat." How do you answer that question any other way than, "No, I don't cheat!"?
I still like him and think he's a great quarterback. But I don't buy it that he didn't know the balls were deflated and didn't order them to be deflated.

I noticed that as well.

He is not sure if he cheats or not. That's a heck of an admission. I think he also threw around the term "knowingly" a couple of times. I said it yesterday, I don't know if Bill is lying, but I am convinced that Brady is.

 

[DFWJC]

'competitive advantage' lol
The Pats outscored the Colts 28-0, and Brady went like 9/9 AFTER the balls in question were replaced with the legal ones.
'story' is kinda silly.

Yeah. the Pats would have beaten those guys even playing with bowling balls.
There was guy on ESPN radio this morning saying he and group of guys took footballs in the 10 psi and 15 psi range and went out and threw them with gloves on. They said there was basically no difference. I have no idea.

But if the Pats knowingly and purposefully lowered the psi in the balls below league standards, that is cheating. If Brady likes the balls on the lower end and expects that--but not below the legal limit--I'm not so sure anyone can prove they purposefully broke the rules. We'll see.

It seems preposterous--I've never heard any mention of football psi before this week--but given that it's the Pats, I think people aren't out of line to assume wrong-doing.

 

[DFWJC]

I noticed that as well.

He is not sure if he cheats or not. That's a heck of an admission. I think he also threw around the term "knowingly" a couple of times. I said it yesterday, I don't know if Bill is lying, but I am convinced that Brady is.

The "I don't believe" part means that if the ball was below his already normally low psi standards--and he did not know it was below the legal limit--then he did not believe he was cheating but could have been anyway.
At least that's how I took it.
Kind of a plausible deniability thing.

 

[burmafrd]

They have been caught twice. Wonder how much ELSE they are doing that they have not been caught at YET?

 

[burmafrd]

The "I don't believe" part means that if the ball was below his already normally low psi standards--and he did not know it was below the legal limit--then he did not believe he was cheating but could have been anyway.
At least that's how I took it.
Kind of a plausible deniability thing.

yeah- lawyering is what is going on there.