Please stop bashing our starting QB

[Hostile]

So the one you had didnt have Henson and Aikman next to each other? The one I saw had Aikman on one side and Henson on the other (in a Wolverine Jersey) and it said something like "The Future is Now" or something like that : .

Gawd I wish I could find it.

- Mike G.

I just don't see anything wrong with that Mick. Look at my buddy AdButcher's sig line. He has the entire 2005 draft class in it. No one has ever made a big deal about it.

You know why not? No, not because he's the size of a house and could kill them with a stare. Because the QB to replace Q isn't in it.

The pettiness over some people not liking one QB is monumental.

 

[HighTechDave]

I like Drew, I think he's good.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I just want to see Bledsoe use the enormous weapons he's got. Granted, the pass protection HAS to be there..and he will continue to draw a pass in games where it isn't.

On the other hand, the oline should not have to hold off rushers for extra critical seconds while DB pats, hops, and excruciatingly guides his brain to understand what other QBs apparently process in half the time. I want to see a FAST veteran understanding of blitzes and defensive formations, FAST reads and checkdowns, the kind of FAST processing that separates rookies from vets, and scrubs from so-called HOF QBs.

Think fast, and act fast, that is all I ask.

Owens, Glenn, Jones, Barber, Witten, Crayton - this is an arsenal most QBs would KILL for.

There is no reason why with those weapons, IF the protection is reasonably solid, that Bledsoe shouldn't be able to take this team deep into the playoffs.

IF he can play at NFL QB speed, that is.

 

[Tripod]

I was ripping Bledsoe before he was a Cowboy... so take off hoser.

I can vouch for this. MW is certainly no johnny-come-lately to the Bledsoe hatefest. He's an original!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I was ripping Bledsoe before he was a Cowboy... so take off hoser.

Morning Michael.

 

[Jack-Reacher]

I just want to see Bledsoe use the enormous weapons he's got. Granted, the pass protection HAS to be there..and he will continue to draw a pass in games where it isn't.

On the other hand, the oline should not have to hold off rushers for extra critical seconds while DB pats, hops, and excruciatingly guides his brain to understand what other QBs apparently process in half the time. I want to see a FAST veteran understanding of blitzes and defensive formations, FAST reads and checkdowns, the kind of FAST processing that separates rookies from vets, and scrubs from so-called HOF QBs.

Think fast, and act fast, that is all I ask.

Owens, Glenn, Jones, Barber, Witten, Crayton - this is an arsenal most QBs would KILL for.

There is no reason why with those weapons, IF the protection is reasonably solid, that Bledsoe shouldn't be able to take this team deep into the playoffs.

IF he can play at NFL QB speed, that is.

I have never made it secret that I am a Bledsoe supporter, but I agree completly with your post. Well said!

Jon

 

[Rampage]

bledsoe sucks

 

[Jack-Reacher]

I realize that I'm an Eagles fan, but the concept of bashing Ones own quarterback is intriguing. The Eagles bashed McNabb as early as the draft. And when he plays poorly they boo him. It's almost accepted practice to blame the quarterback when things go wrong, and give him credit when he wins games.

Specifically, Bledsoe deserves no bashing. It may be surprising for you to believe that I think Bledsoe has more experience and quality in his Little finger than Romo does. Talent relies on opportunity to display it. Before anyone (from any fandom) starts bashing their own QB ...they should first take a look at that QBs surrounding cast.

Rules for bashing a player on your own team:

1) If the player is provided adequate to good protection/blocks, and they are still throwing picks or turning over/dropping ball ...

2) ...If the player does not have the respect of his offense/defense ...

3) ...If the player disrespects the team or disrupts the lockerroom banter/rythmn/gel

4) ...If the player is a cancer to the team and coaching staff

But these are usually egregious behaviors that do not normally exist. Otherwise the strength of the team is measured by it's weakest link.

Bledsoe is not a weak link by any means.

Nice post....

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Forget that we as fans do that about every rookie and express belief/hope that they will be huge for us, for some reason my hope in Henson was offensive.

I'd be offended if I could get past the bewilderment. That's never going to happen.

The day hope becomes offensive, we're all in trouble.

In retrospect, Drew Henson did not deserve to be photoshopped alongside Troy Aikman, anymore than Troy Hambrick deserved to be photoshopped alongside Emmitt Smith.

But wanting a player to step up to franchise status - that hope does, and should spring eternal. I now have the hope I had for Drew replaced in Tony.

Folks are sensitive tho, about kudos thrown to the undeserving. Brainpaint once told me he found offensive a sig I had with Terry and Key with 'Playmakers' written under it. Altho I was in no way implying that together they equaled ONE Michael Irvin, just that they were MY playmakers, the use of the 'signature' tag...the renowned nickname MI had earned himself with guts and rings... bothered him.

I understood that, just as I now grimace seeing "Playmaker" attached to Owens' picture.

 

[Hostile]

The day hope becomes offensive, we're all in trouble.

In retrospect, Drew Henson did not deserve to be photoshopped alongside Troy Aikman, anymore than Troy Hambrick deserved to be photoshopped alongside Emmitt Smith.

But wanting a player to step up to franchise status - that hope does, and should spring eternal. I now have the hope I had for Drew replaced in Tony.

Folks are sensitive tho, about kudos thrown to the undeserving. Brainpaint once told me he found offensive a sig I had with Terry and Key with 'Playmakers' written under it. Altho I was in no way implying that together they equaled ONE Michael Irvin, just that they were MY playmakers, the use of the 'signature' tag...the renowned nickname MI had earned himself with guts and rings... bothered him.

I understood that, just as I now grimace seeing "Playmaker" attached to Owens' picture.

See, and neither one of those things would bother me in the least.

Now, call someone other than Roger Staubach "Captain America" and it better be the cartoon superhero, or we're going to have issues.

:wink2:

I get what you are saying. I just think it was overboard about Henson for no reason whatsoever other than who he was projected to eventually replace. On the positive side, Romo never had that tag so hopefully the furor will finally die down as he starts getting ready to steer the ship.

Of course with him you've got to deal with the fans of Bledsoe and their paranoia just like the Church of Vinny.

I'm so tired of player over team sentiments.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I can vouch for this. MW is certainly no johnny-come-lately to the Bledsoe hatefest. He's an original!

Thank you for the kind words! LOL!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Morning Michael.

Morning ABQ.

 

[Rampage]

the kid who started this thread has a man-crush on bledsoe.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

See, and neither one of those things would bother me in the least.

Now, call someone other than Roger Staubach "Captain America" and it better be the cartoon superhero, or we're going to have issues.

:wink2:

I get what you are saying. I just think it was overboard about Henson for no reason whatsoever other than who he was projected to eventually replace. On the positive side, Romo never had that tag so hopefully the furor will finally die down as he starts getting ready to steer the ship.

Of course with him you've got to deal with the fans of Bledsoe and their paranoia just like the Church of Vinny.

I'm so tired of player over team sentiments.

I think you should just admit man-love for Henson and be done with it Hos.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I have never made it secret that I am a Bledsoe supporter, but I agree completly with your post. Well said!

Jon

Thanks. Jon, altho of course I am asking Bledsoe to do what I KNOW he can't.

I'll let history debate/decide who was the 'better' coach, Parcells or his protege Belichick. But one area Baby Bill has it all over Tuna in is his refusal to believe he can terrorize, cajole, or mantra his quarterback's brain into god-given elite QB I & I.

Neither does BB believe he can build a Super Bowl winning bus around an inferior QB.

I don't know if it's an offshoot of Parcells' famed 'getting the best out of players' legacy, or a byproduct of his button-pushing approach to individual player motivation, and don't really care...but Bill hasn't managed to get his former #1 draft pick QB to consistently play like one. NO one could, when the issue is the speed with which a QB processes what he sees, and correctly acts on it.

For me, two vignettes encapsulate the difference between Bill and Mumbles, and their relative success with Bledsoe and Brady.

The first is the image of Parcells standing behind Bledsoe in summer camp practices for YEAR after freaking YEAR shouting "Throw it, throw it, you stupid SOB", as he tried to get Drew to get rid of the ball..in the right place in a timely fashion. Gee, if a teacher could terrify a student into rocket science thinking, they'd all be Norman Einsteins.

The other significant memory is the report circulated not soon after Bill B made the decision to stick with Brady in 01 after Bledsoe returned from serious injury. Mumbles, who was roundly being beaten up by fans and press for his decision, did not try to explain the move away with 'he's younger, he's healthier, he's more mobile, he's more accurate short range, he represents a spark " malarky.

Belichick merely said that when Tom came off the field after an offensive drive, he would ask the young QB what he had 'seen'.

The answers Brady gave are what won him his job over the former first round pick, and nine year veteran.

Mumbles knew there would be some growing pains, but also realized Tom's knowledge of the defensive formations in front of him, the understanding of what one defender shifting meant, his comprehension of the possibilities the shifts gave him as options meant he had an elite QB in Brady. Brady knew where to attack..based on weaknesses or possibilities he saw. He was both a proactive and reactive thinker. He looked to exploit, not 'handle', and exploit in a fraction of a second.

I won't belabor this....the comparison is too sickening.

 

[Hostile]

I think you should just admit man-love for Henson and be done with it Hos.

Not if it ruins my man love of Lousaka Polite I won't.

I'm disappointed in the kid, and the coaches who couldn't draw the potential out of him. I enjoyed him in college and felt he had a chance to be a star. He blew it here and maybe will never reach that potential. He's not the first. He won't be the last.

Not reaching potential is practically a proverb.

 

[justbob]

To late to be on the first page --thought I would try to push it to 9---

Romo has the one side step that gets him out of a lot of trouble (based on
pre season) The book on bledsoe has always been in his face because he doesn't have that step---I don't think romo makes any more stupid plays then Drew

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Thanks. Jon, altho of course I am asking Bledsoe to do what I KNOW he can't.

I'll let history debate/decide who was the 'better' coach, Parcells or his protege Belichick. But one area Baby Bill has it all over Tuna in is his refusal to believe he can terrorize, cajole, or mantra his quarterback's brain into god-given elite QB I & I.

Neither does BB believe he can build a Super Bowl winning bus around an inferior QB.

I don't know if it's an offshoot of Parcells' famed 'getting the best out of players' legacy, or a byproduct of his button-pushing approach to individual player motivation, and don't really care...but Bill hasn't managed to get his former #1 draft pick QB to consistently play like one. NO one could, when the issue is the speed with which a QB processes what he sees, and correctly acts on it.

For me, two vignettes encapsulate the difference between Bill and Mumbles, and their relative success with Bledsoe and Brady.

The first is the image of Parcells standing behind Bledsoe in summer camp practices for YEAR after freaking YEAR shouting "Throw it, throw it, you stupid SOB", as he tried to get Drew to get rid of the ball..in the right place in a timely fashion. Gee, if a teacher could terrify a student into rocket science thinking, they'd all be Norman Einsteins.

The other significant memory is the report circulated not soon after Bill B made the decision to stick with Brady in 01 after Bledsoe returned from serious injury. Mumbles, who was roundly being beaten up by fans and press for his decision, did not try to explain the move away with 'he's younger, he's healthier, he's more mobile, he's more accurate short range, he represents a spark " malarky.

Belichick merely said that when Tom came off the field after an offensive drive, he would ask the young QB what he had 'seen'.

The answers Brady gave are what won him his job over the former first round pick, and nine year veteran.

Mumbles knew there would be some growing pains, but also realized Tom's knowledge of the defensive formations in front of him, the understanding of what one defender shifting meant, his comprehension of the possibilities the shifts gave him as options meant he had an elite QB in Brady. Brady knew where to attack..based on weaknesses or possibilities he saw. He was both a proactive and reactive thinker. He looked to exploit, not 'handle', and exploit in a fraction of a second. I won't belabor this....the comparison is too sickening.

Bravo Barb!


No doubt someone will come back with the proverbrial - "Well Bledsoe has thrown for over 44,000 yards and has 250 TD passes -- he must be great!"


The fact is that if Bledso had just a wee-bit faster reflexes and a little quicker synapse he'd have a bunch more yardage-- even more TDs -- fewer picks -- a hell of alot less sacks AND he wouldn't be on the verge of losing his position as starter for the 3rd time in his career to a 6th round draft pick, a 1st rounder and an undrafted FA.

The Bledsoe legacy will not consist of what he accomplished but how incredibly limited he was in critical facets of the game.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Not if it ruins my man love of Lousaka Polite I won't.

I'm disappointed in the kid, and the coaches who couldn't draw the potential out of him. I enjoyed him in college and felt he had a chance to be a star. He blew it here and maybe will never reach that potential. He's not the first. He won't be the last.

Not reaching potential is practically a proverb.

I think you have room in her heart for more than one. :laugh2:

 

[Hostile]

I think you have room in her heart for more than one. :laugh2:

I don't. I'm the Grinch.