Poll: Will they extend Dak by March 13th?

[Captain-Crash]

Yes. Trance needs to continue watching to learn how to "PLAY" QB.

well, we already know what we have with the choker, after 8 years and college and high school, this is it for him. Prozac can't help him. He's maximized his skills which isn't enough when he goes into panic, choke mode. shrugs, it is what it is.

 

[Chasing6]

well, we already know what we have with the choker, after 8 years and college and high school, this is it for him. Prozac can't help him.

So how long should he keep sitting and watching before he will be ready to play?

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Jerry has had more than one opportunity to tear down and rebuild the team. Didn't do it. Don't think he's willing to suffer through some 4-13 or 6-11 seasons while a hot shot rookie qb gets up to NFL speed. Especially at his age, despite his utterances he knows he probably has only a few years left on this earth.

But who knows? Maybe his doctors have told him he's healthy as the proverbial horse and he is confident he'll make 95 or more.
Or perhaps he's so desperate for another SB he's willing to take a big chance on a major rebuild if he doesn't get that elusive 6th SB this year.

But if I was a betting man, I'd say we'll see an extension...

 

[Captain-Crash]

So how long should he keep sitting and watching before he will be ready to play?

I'd play him now. I've seen enough of jason prescott, dak garrett. I think Jerry has too.

 

[Chasing6]

I would think ALL fans can't get past that. Who would accept the lack of success in the playoffs?

If fans could not accept it, the NFL would be out of business.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I wouldn't extend Dak, I'd let him play of the year but I don't run this Gong show of a franchise

I agree with your plan I'd do the same....

 

[LACowboysFan1]

40 million per year right now is quite a bargain.

I tried to tell folks here that same thing when the contract was signed and was roundly laughed at for it.
People try to extend their feelings into reality too often, ignoring the facts and history of NFL quarterback salaries....

 

[Reid1boys]

Don't care about those teams.

yawn.....

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

There is no fool like an old fool. Jerrah will extend, and another bad contract all in Dak's favor.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I hope Jerry repossess the football field at daks house, it's not like he uses it.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Yep

Some fans just can’t get past the lack of success in the playoffs.

But as you pointed out correctly it’s more common most don’t want to realize that top 10 caliber paid QB’s don’t all win championships for whatever reasons.

You just don’t move on for the unknown when you’re a consistent playoff caliber team.

Mostly agree with you, but at some point, if the evidence piles up that Dak will never get this team to the SB (as far as his quarterback play is concerned) so eventually despite "consistent playoff caliber teams", if your goal is to win it all you'll have to get rid of Dak.

For me, that point was reached even before this latest poor playoff performance, though I will say even if he had played very well in this last game, Dallas would still have lost. The Packers went down the field in their first 2 drives to tds, ran all over the defense and generally just played much better than the Cowboys. Dak's late point surge was meaningless, the Packers were obviously in prevent defense mode.

But throwing good money after bad is not a good plan, either. Even if the lack of SB or NFC championship game appearances isn't' Dak's fault, at some point you have to make a change, regardless. Being stuck in a rut is not what I want in my team....

 

[LACowboysFan1]

That was an interesting story, and I hope it's true. (although I expect a new deal at some point)

I do believe JJ & Co. have quietly come to realize Dak's limitations. They saw what Dak did in the playoff loss. That was literally an historic loss, and it eats at JJ.

How much damage does it do to the roster if Dallas decides to eat the $60M? The thought of tens of millions in dead money years in the future is sad if they go the route of voidable years to spread the hit.

In other words, do you want to suck this year because of Dak's contract or suck in the next two because of Dak's dead money?

Pick your poison, but for me I'm taking the shorter road...

 

[Chasing6]

Jerry has had more than one opportunity to tear down and rebuild the team. Didn't do it. Don't think he's willing to suffer through some 4-13 or 6-11 seasons while a hot shot rookie qb gets up to NFL speed. Especially at his age, despite his utterances he knows he probably has only a few years left on this earth.

But who knows? Maybe his doctors have told him he's healthy as the proverbial horse and he is confident he'll make 95 or more.
Or perhaps he's so desperate for another SB he's willing to take a big chance on a major rebuild if he doesn't get that elusive 6th SB this year.

But if I was a betting man, I'd say we'll see an extension...

Dak does have all the leverage. Dak's deal was anything but horrible. 40 million per year right now is quite a bargain.

People are getting rapped up in the $ amount, when the bigger issue is the salary cap percentage.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

People are getting rapped up in the $ amount, when the bigger issue is the salary cap percentage.

No, it's the total cap figure. You can pay one player pretty much anything you want, if you can sign enough other good players inside the total $ you can win...

 

[Chasing6]

No, it's the total cap figure. You can pay one player pretty much anything you want, if you can sign enough other good players inside the total $ you can win...

Absolutely, but QB's making 20% of the cap has been going on for some time now regardless of the $ amount.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Absolutely, but QB's making 20% of the cap has been going on for some time now regardless of the $ amount.

Quarterback salaries always outstrip all the other positions, making their percentage higher. Doesn't mean there's an exact number that when you get to it, your ability to win a SB is 100% eliminated. Somebody did a lot of number crunching until they eliminated all teams that never won a SB who had a qb that took up 13%, or 13.235% or such to arrive at "See, you can't play your qb more than 12.999% or 13.234% and win the SB!"

The number is worth considering, but the NFL salary cap and the NFL overall is so complicated I don't think you can just quote percentages as the end-all of building your team...

 

[Diehardblues]

Mostly agree with you, but at some point, if the evidence piles up that Dak will never get this team to the SB (as far as his quarterback play is concerned) so eventually despite "consistent playoff caliber teams", if your goal is to win it all you'll have to get rid of Dak.

For me, that point was reached even before this latest poor playoff performance, though I will say even if he had played very well in this last game, Dallas would still have lost. The Packers went down the field in their first 2 drives to tds, ran all over the defense and generally just played much better than the Cowboys. Dak's late point surge was meaningless, the Packers were obviously in prevent defense mode.

But throwing good money after bad is not a good plan, either. Even if the lack of SB or NFC championship game appearances isn't' Dak's fault, at some point you have to make a change, regardless. Being stuck in a rut is not what I want in my team....

While I agree it’s not what you or I want in our team , I could see where it’s enough for Jethro to stay with.

“ if your goal is to win it all” is a huge assumption we are making of our ownership.

While I think it’s their ultimate goal I’m not sure it’s their immediate goal . Jethro has even stated that priority is to remain interesting and relevant .

And if they even remotely believe Dak is enough if they surround him with a good team then that really tells us everything we need to know. And there are many football people who also believe Daks enough. We can’t totally discount that regardless what we believe.

 

[Diehardblues]

Absolutely, but QB's making 20% of the cap has been going on for some time now regardless of the $ amount.

Yea, that has been the norm . But there’s also the fact not many teams are winning championships with their QB cap at or over 20%.

But there are many contending in playoffs ,etc.
Doesn’t mean you still can’t contend. It just makes it tougher to surround him.

The more Elite the QB is in higher cap percentage the more likely you can win a championship.

Having a highly cap percentage QB that isn’t Elite makes it tougher .

 

[Chasing6]

Yea, that has been the norm . But there’s also the fact not many teams are winning championships with their QB cap at or over 20%.

But there are many contending in playoffs ,etc.
Doesn’t mean you still can’t contend. It just makes it tougher to surround him.

The more Elite the QB is in higher cap percentage the more likely you can win a championship.

Having a highly cap percentage QB that isn’t Elite makes it tougher .

My reference to 20% meaning their new contract average compared to the salary cap. They end up back loading it and making it manageable by kicking it down the road hoping the cap continues to climb and keeps pace.

The $ amount seems absurd, but it really is not and it is going the rate. Similar to when Dak send his last deal.

The key to signing him moving forward is it has to to be trade-able.

 

[Reid1boys]

While I agree it’s not what you or I want in our team , I could see where it’s enough for Jethro to stay with.

“ if your goal is to win it all” is a huge assumption we are making of our ownership.

While I think it’s their ultimate goal I’m not sure it’s their immediate goal . Jethro has even stated that priority is to remain interesting and relevant .

And if they even remotely believe Dak is enough if they surround him with a good team then that really tells us everything we need to know. And there are many football people who also believe Daks enough. We can’t totally discount that regardless what we believe.

can you please show me the video where Jerry has said his PRIORITY is to stay interesting and relevant. He needs to do NOTHING to be either of those things.