Poll: Will they extend Dak by March 13th?

POLL: Will Dak be extended by March 13th?


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Diehardblues

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So was it our owner that fumbled in GB in 2014? Was it the owner that dropped a pass that would have beaten the Giants in 2009? Was it the owner this year that couldnt stop GB from walking up and down the field? Everyone saying how great Dan Quinn is.... so how did our owner cost us against GB?
No, it was our owner who over hyped that team on the field that choked. You really don’t get it do you?
 

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lol.............. NO qb in history wins a sb without..... enter X here. Thats like saying..... and without oxygen youd be dead.
That’s right they don’t. And why these QB’s don’t win it all every time. They need some help too.
 

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very true. The years Brady and Mahomes arent wining it, Drew brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Kurt Warner and Big Ben were winning it. You clearly dont need a Mahomes or Brady to win the big one.....lol
I’m with ya on Elite QB’s are a huge difference maker. They win SB’s about 75% of the time. Everything is easier if you have one.

But they don’t win them all. There is a window. And even a bigger window just to reach a SB or champ game.

We are on same page importance of Elite QB’s. But the more support they have the better. And why Brady won more when he had greater defenses and supporting cast.
 

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You can’t handle the truth that our owner is the biggest obstacle this franchise faces.

You are one of the few who actually believes he’s doing a great job.
So Jerry's main faults are:
a) losing out on giving inflated contracts to 'our own guys'.
b) wont take that final step of ALL-IN to win it all.

The problem is, even if we'd traded a 1st for Henry (giving Dak the running game, which would of possibly helped him get back in the GB game)....would we of won.....argument is that GB would still of won the game as they overpowered our Defense (both air and ground in 1st half).
So, do you go 'ALL-IN', when your QB is suspect under pressure and too reliant upon the rest of the roster?

2023 was Dak's chance, with what was a a decent roster.....the same ole demons (inability to perform in adversity) resurfaced. Yes there's issue's with Jerry's strategy, but one of them is holding on to Dak (especially if they pay him close to $60m (plus having to pay the arrears) ......You cant go ALL-IN when there's such a glaring weakness in the QB's make-up.
 

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That’s right they don’t. And why these QB’s don’t win it all every time. They need some help too.
Sometimes the QB's need help, but occasionally they also step up and lead the team. In play-off football (or biggest games) Dak comes up short time and time again and seems to of gotten worse as the pressure (possibly of the contract) means he's expected to perform.
 

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you quoted him. i asked you to show me the video saying wHAT YOU CLAIMHE HAS SAID. yOU EITHER MADE IT UP, OR ARE IMAGINING HE HAS SAID SUCH A THING. iF YOU CANT PROVIDE THE VIDEO, STOP MAKING bs CLAIMS.
I don’t recall where he said it but he did. And it was probably more in the context of what he said. Haven’t ever seen a video of it. Don’t know if it was a video. Prob from the Fan 103.5 FM on radio. Doesn’t matter. Others heard it too.

Defending our owner is a lonely road Reid. If you can’t see the damage he’s done this era to our franchise nothing I say will change it if you’re All In on Jethro.
 

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So Jerry's main faults are:
a) losing out on giving inflated contracts to 'our own guys'.
b) wont take that final step of ALL-IN to win it all.

The problem is, even if we'd traded a 1st for Henry (giving Dak the running game, which would of possibly helped him get back in the GB game)....would we of won.....argument is that GB would still of won the game as they overpowered our Defense (both air and ground in 1st half).
So, do you go 'ALL-IN', when your QB is suspect under pressure and too reliant upon the rest of the roster?

2023 was Dak's chance, with what was a a decent roster.....the same ole demons (inability to perform in adversity) resurfaced. Yes there's issue's with Jerry's strategy, but one of them is holding on to Dak (especially if they pay him close to $60m (plus having to pay the arrears) ......You cant go ALL-IN when there's such a glaring weakness in the QB's make-up.
Don’t misunderstand my intent here. I’m not supporting Dak isn’t a problem on these bigger stages. He crapped the bed. But so did the entire team.

No doubt with an elite QB this team might have been enough to go further.

And I’d argue the team was over hyped as well which I argued all season. Division and 2nd seed fell into their lap.

Last two years SF definitely better team in playoffs . Packers were playing better end of season than we were. I wasn’t shocked we lost. I was surprised we couldn’t give them a game. That was shameful.

And I agree if Jethro is All In on Dak it’s a problem . But he hasn’t left himself much option for now if he wants to remain relative. Dak at least provides that until he meets better teams and QB’s.

I don’t have much confidence or faith either way. Look at who we were looking to draft in 1st round this era. Manziel and Lynch. We’re probably doomed with this ownership either way. This could be about as good as it gets much like with Romo.
 

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Don’t misunderstand my intent here. I’m not supporting Dak isn’t a problem on these bigger stages. He crapped the bed. But so did the entire team.

No doubt with an elite QB this team might have been enough to go further.

And I’d argue the team was over hyped as well which I argued all season. Division and 2nd seed fell into their lap.

Last two years SF definitely better team in playoffs . Packers were playing better end of season than we were. I wasn’t shocked we lost. I was surprised we couldn’t give them a game. That was shameful.

And I agree if Jethro is All In on Dak it’s a problem . But he hasn’t left himself much option for now if he wants to remain relative. Dak at least provides that until he meets better teams and QB’s.

I don’t have much confidence or faith either way. Look at who we were looking to draft in 1st round this era. Manziel and Lynch. We’re probably doomed with this ownership either way. This could be about as good as it gets much like with Romo.
My whole point, in respect of Dak, is that the issue always appears his performance in adversity.....now you could look to both run (O and D) ,but it still doesn't guarantee that Dak will perform (the 2 x SF playoff loses he had the ball to win/tie it late).

Also last year some of the fanbase held onto, well its the 49ers (that beat us)....now that's been put to bed.
It certainly isn't all Dak, however, he needs too much (especially with a massive CAP% hit ), to overcome his frailty.
 

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Not sure about 3/13 but Dak is getting a new deal for 60 million /y before camp
 

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Not sure about 3/13 but Dak is getting a new deal for 60 million /y before camp
If he's extended I suppose it'll have to be ling term....I don't see how giving him a 3 year contract in region of $60m (plus the $62m arrears) helps us that much......May as well restructure some of his 2024 salary (along withdraw, Martin, Diggs) and let him play for his next contract....show us your game plays up to the contract.
 

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This opinion and it’s not just you who has it, makes absolutely zero sense
I know, but its the Cowboys
There is no way they are letting Dak walk
They should make a decision now but they are paralyzed
 

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I know, but its the Cowboys
There is no way they are letting Dak walk
They should make a decision now but they are paralyzed
If he isn’t signed by mar 13, he will not be signed before the season starts. Period.
 

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If he isn’t signed by mar 13, he will not be signed before the season starts. Period.
Yep, I suppose the initial 'concern' is getting under the CAP threshold on for the 13th and that'll probably mean his salary's restructured, which'll negate the reason/need to extend, may as well play out the existing year.
 

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[Dallas Texas TV] “If we got em talking about us then we're doing our job” — Jerry Jones.Jan 29, 2024
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ah.... and you extrapolate from that comment that people talking about the cowboys is more important to him than winning a SB, even though he has said how important winning a SB is...... ah.... I see.

Ive been known to say I love my Corvette from time to time..... you all would equate that to mean it is more important than my family.
 

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Well after some thought, the jones boys created this mess, and they can deal with it and no fan can fix it .
There is no quick fix to create a SB caliber team.
It would require a new FO with a good plan and it would take at least a few years.

The cowboys are no longer the cowboys, they are the jonesboys !lol
A team built for entertainment, in a league that is all about entertainment and high tv ratings and making the most $ possible.
And on top of that they are in league with the gambling industry ! lol

I dont even know if the games are even real anymore, or scripted.
The eagles were 10-1 and then suddenly started losing , and the team didnt even look like they were trying. No one could explain that.
They didnt even win the div.
Dallas got blown out in WC round and played really bad.
Is that real or something else??

So us trying to say what cowboys should do is a waste of time, Jerry will never do what we suggest, and I can enjoy watching his team
lose, so I dont really care what they do anymore.
Keep dak pay him 100 mil a year , I dont care.

I still will say keeping dak @ 60 mil a year or anything over 40 is stupid with the OL going downhill fast only 1 good WR and no run game.
That is not a good formula for winning esp in playoffs.

This coming season they have tougher teams to play, wash should be much better, so lets see how they do this year.
Wrong on the Iggles. There were many of us in here saying that team was not good. yea, they were 10-1 and could have easily been 5-5 at that point. EVERYTHING went their way up to that point. Than the law of avgs came around to show who they were.
 

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No, it was our owner who over hyped that team on the field that choked. You really don’t get it do you?
nope, im not as smart as you, clearly. The owner overhyped? WTH does that mean... maybe you dont get it. You dont believe words that people say about NFL teams, you watch the games.
 

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I’m with ya on Elite QB’s are a huge difference maker. They win SB’s about 75% of the time. Everything is easier if you have one.

But they don’t win them all. There is a window. And even a bigger window just to reach a SB or champ game.

We are on same page importance of Elite QB’s. But the more support they have the better. And why Brady won more when he had greater defenses and supporting cast.
our support this year was very good. We had a top 5 roster last season. And the times teams win a SB without the elite qb, its a coin flip. Thats why teams like the Falcons, panthers will get there from time to time and then disappear the very next season. it is totally random.... or luck.
 
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