News: Pollard can't be "the guy."

[SteveTheCowboy]

He will be cut, if he doesn't take a serious pay reduction. It will be hard to be motivated to play when your making 90% less.

And a team that takes running back seriously will pick him up.

If he's not in the league next year....I leave this forum.
If he is in the league next year...you leave.

Come on buddy.....put your money where your big fat stupid mouth is.

Out of the league you said. Then you changed it to being cut.

 

[cnuball21]

Well fknit then give tony all the carries and the blocking assignments. Throw Zeke away like you want to do.

Let's really lay it on the line a....like see you the boss....let tony carry this team on his back and make an NFL qb like Zeke does.

I do wish we could do this. But smarter people than you.....run this team. But..... I'm still sick of this bullsp.

I literally just said that’s not what any of the fans are asking for…like in my exact post you responded to so not sure what you’re getting at.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I just don’t understand what you’re waiting for…Pollard has like 30 less carries than Zeke and again…has more yards, a higher YPA, higher YAC and more TDs.

The bell cow days are over…hardly any teams are giving their RBs 25 carrie’s a game. Neither is getting that moving forward…why not just give Pollard a few more touches and let Zeke be the 3rd down back for pass pro and short yardage work?

He’s not rooting for Pollard. He’s waiting for him to fail like RonaldT24 and Jazzcat are.

 

[cnuball21]

He’s not rooting for Pollard. He’s waiting for him to fail like RonaldT24 and Jazzcat are.

Interesting approach to being a fan…

 

[RonnieT24]

“Don’t fix what ain’t” broken is an awful way to operate in just about all aspects of life IMO. You should always be looking for improvement and ways for things to be more efficient.

In this case, TP getting more touches than Zeke at this point makes a ton of sense based on Zekes regression.

It makes sense to you and handful of others.. Apparently it doesn't make sense to people who get fired for making the wrong decision in cases like this. I'm gonna side with them on this one.. You and I discuss it and the only consequences of being wrong is being wrong.. These guys get it wrong and their families are moving out of Dallas in January.. At some point we have to accept that this team isn't going to do everything we want them to do. It has caused me great pain to watch what Kellen Moore does with the offense but I understand that there aint a damn thing I can do about it. So I aint gittin on this or any other website complaining about him all day every stinkin day. That doesn't make a whole lotta sense to me.. But to each his own.

 

[T-RO]

Pollard has always been better suited for this offense. At least in the running game. The fact that Moore heavily favors shotgun run and delay handoffs far and away fits Pollard's skillset and running style better. I have been saying that for over three years. The question to me is whether that style of offense is better for the Cowboys. I am of the mind that the power running game is better for this team. The downhill power running game leads to far less games of averaging < 2 ypc and far fewer negative runs. Maybe you get a few more big plays.. but does it win you more games? Barry Sanders played in 6 playoff games in his career. Emmitt Smith played in 19.. Eric Dickerson played in 7 playoff games.. Marcus Allen played in 16. Adrian Peterson played in 5 playoff games.. LeGarrette Blount played in 11. Over the course of history the more explosive big play threat backs have spent far more time watching the playoffs on TV than the steady production tough running guys. That's where my affinity for the tough runners comes from. That style has been shown to be far superior for winning games especially in the playoffs. Sure one can counter that those guys went to better teams.. but Emmitt was drafted by a team that went 1-15. Sooooo... maybe the players help MAKE their teams better..

The bottom line is winning games.. If we go deep in the playoffs using the current style I will have no problem going into next season with Pollard as the #1 back. I posted at the end of 2018 that if the Cowboys weren't going to commit to the power running game they should trade Zeke.. They're wasting him in this current system.. and have been for most of the last 3 seasons.

Your notions of "tough" are a bit tender. Fragile.
-Dorsett is 4th all-time in playoff yards. He was 190 pounds!
-Thurman Thomas 200 lbs, 3rd-all-time playoff yards
-Terrell Davis 206 lbs, 6th all-time playoff yards
-Marcus Allen was 210 lb back. Same weight as Pollard.

What's a "tough" back? If it's yards after contact--Pollard leads the ENTIRE NFL. More than King Henry, more than everyone.

 

[T-RO]

It has caused me great pain to watch what Kellen Moore does with the offense

Yup.

It was painful watching the Cowboys under Moore rank #1 in offense last year.
And painful to watch the Cowboys under Moore go 4-1 with noodle-arm Cooper Rush at QB

So very painful, LOL

 

[cnuball21]

It makes sense to you and handful of others.. Apparently it doesn't make sense to people who get fired for making the wrong decision in cases like this. I'm gonna side with them on this one.. You and I discuss it and the only consequences of being wrong is being wrong.. These guys get it wrong and their families are moving out of Dallas in January.. At some point we have to accept that this team isn't going to do everything we want them to do. It has caused me great pain to watch what Kellen Moore does with the offense but I understand that there aint a damn thing I can do about it. So I aint gittin on this or any other website complaining about him all day every stinkin day. That doesn't make a whole lotta sense to me.. But to each his own.

While we don’t agree on the players, I agree with
you on this.

If my job depended on it I’d be doing things way different than Moore even outside of Pollard / Zeke. Dude is soooooo inconsistent and I’ve never seen anyone struggle so much to get his best players the ball.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

It makes sense to you and handful of others.. Apparently it doesn't make sense to people who get fired for making the wrong decision in cases like this. I'm gonna side with them on this one.. You and I discuss it and the only consequences of being wrong is being wrong.. These guys get it wrong and their families are moving out of Dallas in January.. At some point we have to accept that this team isn't going to do everything we want them to do. It has caused me great pain to watch what Kellen Moore does with the offense but I understand that there aint a damn thing I can do about it. So I aint gittin on this or any other website complaining about him all day every stinkin day. That doesn't make a whole lotta sense to me.. But to each his own.

Totally bro. Coaching staffs never get it wrong.

 

[MyFairLady]

Apparently it doesn't make sense to people who get fired for making the wrong decision in cases like this.

Jerry is in danger of getting fired?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I literally just said that’s not what any of the fans are asking for…like in my exact post you responded to so not sure what you’re getting at.

I know what you said.

But giving Zeke the 10 carries you want him to have? Just chuck Zeke then. Your plan.... of COURSE it's not worth paying or even KEEPING Zeke at all.

Do him...and us a favor....ditch him to the curb so he can flourish and we can stop this insane nonsense.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Totally bro. Coaching staffs never get it wrong.

Like the way we use Zeke...is zeke's fault?

 

[cnuball21]

I know what you said.

But giving Zeke the 10 carries you want him to have? Just chuck Zeke then. Your plan.... of COURSE it's not worth paying or even KEEPING Zeke at all.

Do him...and us a favor....ditch him to the curb so he can flourish and we can stop this insane nonsense.

Why chuck him? Get him his 12/13+ touches and let him excel in a lesser role. He’s only getting about 15 carries a game now so again it’s not a drastic change. We’re stuck with his contract - that’s Jerry’s bc fault, not Zekes.

Again, all most fans want is to give a few more touches to Pollard and a few less touches to Zeke. His awful contract is going nowhere this year so we’ll cross that bridge in the offseason.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Why chuck him? Get him his 12/13+ touches and let him excel in a lesser role. He’s only getting about 15 carries a game now so again it’s not a drastic change. We’re stuck with his contract - that’s Jerry’s bc fault, not Zekes.

Again, all most fans want is to give a few more touches to Pollard and a few less touches to Zeke. His awful contract is going nowhere this year so we’ll cross that bridge in the offseason.

If only.

We sit here bickering all season long rather than supporting our cowboys.

 

[cnuball21]

If only.

We sit here bickering all season long rather than supporting our cowboys.

Again, I’ve never had any ill will, hate or dislike towards Zeke. I just acknowledge the facts and want my team to have the best chance to win.

Always have and always will support Zeke - just want Pollard on the field more.

 

[Toro9]

Okay, you're talking about him being a "work horse" RB. Those are few and far between in today's NFL. Every team should have a decent RB2 these days to keep the #1 fresh

 

[Mr_437]

Continuously overblown.

 

[RonnieT24]

Again, I’ve never had any ill will, hate or dislike towards Zeke. I just acknowledge the facts and want my team to have the best chance to win.

Always have and always will support Zeke - just want Pollard on the field more.

Yeah this is fair.. he has earned more PT to be sure.. Like I said.. the coaching staff just needs to watch his load. He just doesn't appear to be as well suited for a full game load as Zeke is.. But keeping them both fresh and involved is good for the team. There will days when one is "feelin it" and the other isn't. It's up to the coaches to figure out which is which on a given day.

 

[cnuball21]

“Cowboys RB Tony Pollard said he can definitely play more than the 31 snaps he did vs. Bears. He was joking when he told RB coach Skip Peete he was done after his 54-yard TD. “That was more of joking, not really like, ‘I don’t got anything left.’” Wanted the young RBs to get reps.”

Weird…Pollard wasn’t being literal when he joked about being gassed.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Yeah this is fair.. he has earned more PT to be sure.. Like I said.. the coaching staff just needs to watch his load. He just doesn't appear to be as well suited for a full game load as Zeke is.. But keeping them both fresh and involved is good for the team. There will days when one is "feelin it" and the other isn't. It's up to the coaches to figure out which is which on a given day.

It's really annoying....these self-proclaimed experts draw up precise number of carries.
If you have just half a brain....you know sometimes Zeke gets more sometimes Tony.

I don't trust them one bit....and I don't trust km... he's seen a glimmer of light. But if he was good....these experts wouldn't be able to say ship because both Zeke and Tony tearing it up.