Pollard is fantastic but we have to let him walk

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The silver lining is a franchise tag for a RB is about $10M a year.

I just can't bring myself to dole out long-term money for any RB.
 

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Those staff meetings are based off the in depth evaluation reports the player personnel dept. presents to the coaches.
A meets up with B.
still a cumulative effort, sorry no one man is responsible or garret, Marinelli and others wouldn't have been blamed for so many mistakes draft and fas wise. they all have input and decide. that would mean WM passed on TJ watt and others by himself, drafted hill, Jaylon, and others that this place has disdain for...a lot more goes into it then you try and believe, WM very important basically our GM but its still a large coordinated effort to build teams.
 

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Murray was used as a workhorse which contributed to his injury history. I believe Pollard missed at least one game due to an injury, but he’s been splitting carries with Zeke his entire career which has kept him healthy and fresh. He’s bound to get hurt at some point if he’s used as a primary back. I don’t think a team will pay him a huge amount of money to have him split carries with another back. He’s not being used by the Cowboys in a lot of tough yardage situations to push the pile. That’s been Zeke’s role. He’ll be used a lot more if he’s making more money and that will likely lead to some injuries. Most backs that leave their original team never play as well for their second team. DeMarco Murray wasn’t as good when he left Dallas. Le’Veon Bell wasn’t any good when he left Pittsburgh. Herschel Walker wasn’t very good when he left Dallas and neither was Eric Dickerson when he left the Rams. The only backs I can think of that were really good for their second team was Marshawn Lynch, Marshall Faulk and Jerome Bettis.

Dickerson had such a great start to his career that it is understandable that he wasn't as good with his second team. I'd say Dickerson was still very good for the Colts initially, but then hit that decline. He was 2nd in the league in rushing during the 1987 season in which he was traded. Charles White had is one big season to lead the league that year with the Rams and played in 15 games because he played with the scabs. Dickerson only got 12 games that year due to the lockout. Dickerson then led the league in rushing his first full season with the Colts in 1988. He was 3rd in rushing in 1989. Then he hit 30 years old and fell off a cliff.

I would look at a running backs age when they are going to a new team as it may factor in if they can continue their success. DeMarco Murray was 27. Le'Veon Bell was 27. Herschel Walker was 27. Erick Dickerson was 27. Marshawn Lynch was 24. Marshall Faulk was 26. Jerome Bettis was 24.
 

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Smart teams don't deal out big money deals to RB's.

Agree/Disagree?

This is correct. You can find a dynamic running back somewhere on day 3 of every draft. Pouring big resources into RBs is bad roster management.

This FO understood this when it was negotiating with DeMarco Murray after he won the rushing title. Somehow it forgot what it knew.
 

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Dickerson had such a great start to his career that it is understandable that he wasn't as good with his second team. I'd say Dickerson was still very good for the Colts initially, but then hit that decline. He was 2nd in the league in rushing during the 1987 season in which he was traded. Charles White had is one big season to lead the league that year with the Rams and played in 15 games because he played with the scabs. Dickerson only got 12 games that year due to the lockout. Dickerson then led the league in rushing his first full season with the Colts in 1988. He was 3rd in rushing in 1989. Then he hit 30 years old and fell off a cliff.

I would look at a running backs age when they are going to a new team as it may factor in if they can continue their success. DeMarco Murray was 27. Le'Veon Bell was 27. Herschel Walker was 27. Erick Dickerson was 27. Marshawn Lynch was 24. Marshall Faulk was 26. Jerome Bettis was 24.

Eric Dickerson was still good with when he left the Rams but the point is he wasn’t as good with a Colts as he was with the Rams. He had a 1600 yard and a 1300 yard season his first two years with the Colts, but it was downhill from there. It really isn’t the age of these RBs that was the problem because they were all in their prime when they left for their second team. It was the mileage they had and going to a different situation. A lot of their success had to do with their OL.
 

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His career average is 5.3. Jim Brown had 5.2 and Barry Sanders had 5.0.
Ooof I like me some Pollard and he has been fantastic but this is the most disrespectful thing anyone has ever said about Jim Brown.
 

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What was Pollard's production in that same game? Context makes a big difference, when assessing talent. So many blame Zeke for his contract, playing while hurt, and getting most of the carries.

He did not write up his own contract. He did not put himself in games, knowing he was injured, and he does not set the roster. Management, is the issue with this team. Zeke, will go as the team allows.
Pollard didn't do much either but he looked alot better than Zeke

We started the game w Zeke.

Its hard to run and score at the playoff level. Esp when you're a slow rb

The best player on the field was Cooper

It might have been different had Pollard started and got a bigger majority of the carries

But you dink and dunk it to a te that can't score at that level and your gonna run out of throws eventually

That game coulda been a blowout if not for a roughing the passer on the punter and a pick by Jimmy G and some overthrown passes

Our #1 passing offense looked like #2 because they couldn't score. It's easier to defend the passing game when ya know it's a pass

Cooper and Dak got the only tds.
 
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Schultz isn’t tagged for next year
Schultz only counts against this years cap and right now we don’t have the cap space to tag a punter, let alone a RB. We can and will free up some more space but it’s much cheaper to sign than tag a player because you could put the expensive years out farther
Last I checked we only had a couple mil for next year. The cap likely will go up also but the amount I don’t know
Conner, I had read on the zone we were like 20 Million under the cap going into this season.
Are you basing your comments on next years cap?
Doesn't any excess cap we have this year roll over into next years cap?
Thanks, John
 

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Disagree. Pollard is a great part of the offense and should be retained. How about the front office use a little art of the deal in their negotiations?

Zeke was apart of the offense, too.

I can't get how so much of the fandom said how dumb it was to extend Zeke and said RBs aren't something to invest in, now want to do the same thing with Pollard.
 

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Disagree. Pollard is a great part of the offense and should be retained. How about the front office use a little art of the deal in their negotiations?
Do you mean that we say we will pay him then don’t? Then lawyerup?
 

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So you think Pollard is a top back without a good o-line.

Mkay....yer nuts.
Ask Demarco Murray or leveon bell ha ha ha

Not too many RBs are a top back without a decent run blocking oline. Esp if your pass blocking oline is just average

Most teams can score w 3-5 guys. This 2022 team rides on the legs of Pollard and Zeke

And Zeke is slowwwww and washed upppp between the 20's

We have 4 games to use Pollard, Malik Davis and Zeke

We've seen flashes from Davis

You'd think we'd use the next 4 games working him in. He's way faster than Zeke
 
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Zeke is just better at blocking and short yardage because you don't need any Speed to fill those shoes.

If the passing oline was better you could eliminate the need for all the blocking.

There's nobody saying how great Earl Campbell or Barry Sanders was as blockers if ya think about it lmao
 

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Absolutely you let him walk. Plenty of running backs in the draft. You draft one on a rookie deal. Hasn't Dallas made enough bad deals on players they could of replaced for much cheaper.
 

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Pollard didn't do much either but he looked alot better than Zeke

We started the game w Zeke.

Its hard to run and score at the playoff level. Esp when you're a slow rb

The best player on the field was Cooper

It might have been different had Pollard started and got a bigger majority of the carries

But you dink and dunk it to a te that can't score at that level and your gonna run out of throws eventually

That game coulda been a blowout if not for a roughing the passer on the punter and a pick by Jimmy G and some overthrown passes

Our #1 passing offense looked like #2 because they couldn't score. It's easier to defend the passing game when ya know it's a pass

Cooper and Dak got the only tds.

Not much use in rehashing the bad decisions made last season.. Keeping Zeke in the lineup on a bad wheel was dumb. No one disputes that. Let's hope they are smarter about playing injured guys this year.
 
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