Possible 10-15 years of .500 football when Dak's gone

[kskboys]

Ask any NFL expert why the Cowboys failed in the playoffs the last 2 years. They agree with me.

Yup. Poorly constructed D and bad QB play. It's actually obvious w/ the slightest bit of evaluation.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Defense didn't quit.

the whole team quit. the whole team sucked. everyone. coaches, players, everyone of them.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I want to keep Dak so bad. What a fun time it has been knowing his punk *** is gonna choke against good teams and in the playoffs. Sunrise, Sunset and Dak choking in playoffs. All equal bets. Guaranteed!

fantastic. so you like cowboys to lose as you just described above?

 

[kskboys]

the whole team quit. the whole team sucked. everyone. coaches, players, everyone of them.

Not even remotely true. Getting lambasted due to personnel problems is not quitting. And BTW, those problems were glaring and called out by many of us starting right after the draft. They sucked, but not from quitting.

How in hades are so many not able to comprehend the difference between quitting and getting manhandled?

 

[NoFurtherQuestions]

Get Dak off the team is the #1 objective. He will never win crap. The timeline to winning something begins once he is gone.

We're not winning **** with Jerry and his family running the org.

Scapegoat the players all you want but you can't win in a league like the NFL with such incompetent ownership. We could have a Patrick Mahomes like player fall into our laps and this ownership would ***k it up. Jerry would probably start getting jealous if we had a QB like that thinking it was taking too much of the attention off him

 

[SultanOfSix]

And he was the best of all the mess talking about it 10 to 15 really bad or average below average quarterbacks over a period of time and by the way you don't keep players more than four years like him go look at New England they're having problems trying to find Tom Brady's replacement and they knew for years he was leaving they tried to draft players in fact does NFL has drafted 95 quarterbacks since 2016 and only one of them have made the Super bowl and then we have all this talk around about drafting a quarterback you gotta make sure he has 1300 snaps or more he's played more than three seasons in the college ranks as a barometer of who you should draft and then somebody goes and does the research finds out 154 players have been drafted at quarterbacks that meet those criteria since the year 2000 and only 12 of them turned out to be any good that is how hard it is to replace a quarterback of Prescott's level we get it he's making a lot of money he's eating up a lot of funds for the salary cap however he's not the sole reason we're losing in the playoffs getting rid of him and trying to rebuild the rest of the team leaving you with no quarterback it's not gonna make you better they gotta find a way to make the whole team better and have a great quarterback at the same time...

Holy run-on sentence Batman!

 

[Blue&Silver]

And he was the best of all the mess talking about it 10 to 15 really bad or average below average quarterbacks over a period of time and by the way you don't keep players more than four years like him go look at New England they're having problems trying to find Tom Brady's replacement and they knew for years he was leaving they tried to draft players in fact does NFL has drafted 95 quarterbacks since 2016 and only one of them have made the Super bowl and then we have all this talk around about drafting a quarterback you gotta make sure he has 1300 snaps or more he's played more than three seasons in the college ranks as a barometer of who you should draft and then somebody goes and does the research finds out 154 players have been drafted at quarterbacks that meet those criteria since the year 2000 and only 12 of them turned out to be any good that is how hard it is to replace a quarterback of Prescott's level we get it he's making a lot of money he's eating up a lot of funds for the salary cap however he's not the sole reason we're losing in the playoffs getting rid of him and trying to rebuild the rest of the team leaving you with no quarterback it's not gonna make you better they gotta find a way to make the whole team better and have a great quarterback at the same time...

Back in the 80s I had a friend that was a huge Miami Dolphins fan. He would come over every week and we would watch the dolphins, and Dan Marino. He was the man. I watch them probably Danny's whole career, even when he blew his Achilles running out a sack, or just beating the lineman to the sidelines and blowing Achilles. But anyway, he thought they would just draft a quarterback after Marino retired and they would be on top again. From the time Dan Marino retired till now they are still waiting to get that quarterback. The man. The guy that can win them games when games were unwinnable. The dolphins still don't have that guy, and how long has it been? That guy might never come. You have to have the right coaches. You have to have the right players. You have to have the right front office. Teams make a mistake when they get a good quarterback and they start relying on him too much to win games for them. You have to have a good front line. You have to have a good running game that can win games when you're quarterback isn't playing at the top of his game. You need a dominant defense that can win the game when the offense is struggling. That goes for special-teams. A great quarterback isn't going to win a Super Bowl by himself. I never said Prescott is a great quarterback, but he is good, and good enough to win a lot of games. He needs help in the playoffs in his record reflects that. We could get rid of a good quarterback, for a bad quarterback, and the chances of even getting to the playoffs become that much harder.

 

[shabazz]

2-5........ one of them against an 8-9 team with a 50 year old quarterback

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

2-5........ one of them against an 8-9 team with a 50 year old quarterback

How long would it take Dak to get to Dan Marino's 8 wins in the playoff (8-10 playoff record). Well at the rate Dak is he would be 8-20 before getting his 8th win... Yup same situation.. *eye roll*

 

[Cowboys5217]

How long would it take Dak to get to Dan Marino's 8 wins in the playoff (8-10 playoff record). Well at the rate Dak is he would be 8-20 before getting his 8th win... Yup same situation.. *eye roll*

Marino played in the SB his second year. He had the bad luck to play a 17-1 49ers team that was one of the strongest single season teams of all time. Otherwise he likely has at least one ring.

 

[blueblood70]

Back in the 80s I had a friend that was a huge Miami Dolphins fan. He would come over every week and we would watch the dolphins, and Dan Marino. He was the man. I watch them probably Danny's whole career, even when he blew his Achilles running out a sack, or just beating the lineman to the sidelines and blowing Achilles. But anyway, he thought they would just draft a quarterback after Marino retired and they would be on top again. From the time Dan Marino retired till now they are still waiting to get that quarterback. The man. The guy that can win them games when games were unwinnable. The dolphins still don't have that guy, and how long has it been? That guy might never come. You have to have the right coaches. You have to have the right players. You have to have the right front office. Teams make a mistake when they get a good quarterback and they start relying on him too much to win games for them. You have to have a good front line. You have to have a good running game that can win games when you're quarterback isn't playing at the top of his game. You need a dominant defense that can win the game when the offense is struggling. That goes for special-teams. A great quarterback isn't going to win a Super Bowl by himself. I never said Prescott is a great quarterback, but he is good, and good enough to win a lot of games. He needs help in the playoffs in his record reflects that. We could get rid of a good quarterback, for a bad quarterback, and the chances of even getting to the playoffs become that much harder.

That's a good story but Prescott still is a great quarterback see he's great you can't be second team all pro and second MVP voting never been part of a losing season without being called great he's just not steadily elite he's very inconsistent he does need help the only truly elite quarterback in the league right now is Patrick mahomes and even he needs help..

So I'm saying Prescott is great he's literally at the top of his group in his era since 2016 he's been part of so many #1 offenses top three offenses I don't think our offense has been outside the top five when he's playing from the first game and ends up finishing the season again no losing seasons he's already top nine in touchdown interception ratio all time in the NFL you can't be not great with that resume I get it all quarterbacks on a team it's a team game need help to win in the big games including Dan Marino there are a lot of quarterbacks that were great they end up making the Hall of Fame lots of players that were great in the Hall of Fame that have no rings stop putting this on the quarterback because there are a lot of great players who literally made a ton of money in their career at all other positions they were at the top of their game and never helped their team win a championship this is truly I think it's the Ultimate Team game is football there's so many moving parts and then you add in coaching and the schemes and the game plans and the type of league ran with the officiating you're literally have to have everybody on the same page in the same game it only takes a couple to mess it up...​

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I mean how many other Super Bowls the Dallas Cowboys could have won except for one play here or there??​

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maybe if there was instant replay in both of those Steelers losses or the tight end dropping the pass in the end zone or that just one play that Joe Montana made with the catch in the back of the end zone that's still to this day we don't know if that ball was being thrown away...​

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it's a fine line between winning the big one and losing...​

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I mean we got really close with Danny white and Danny white in my opinion not even better than Romo or Prescott he had an upside-down touchdown- interception ratio in the playoffs and not much bettrer in the regular season. That means he made a lot of mistakes that his team covered up , great teams that he was on, you know with a great offensive line one, of the best running backs of all time one, of the best defenses of all time all helped him get to those championship games not much different than Blake Bortles, Sanchez, &Nick Foles, I mean you got Colin Kaepernick, Garoppolo making it to a Super Bowl..​

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Those teams were great, literally so many quarterbacks were carried by better teams,​

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our great quarterbacks in Romo and Prescott have been let down by their team and no they didn't overcome it ,no they didn't elevate the team because you know what too many bad things happened in those games...​

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You can't overcome that many mistakes, you know like 14 penalties or your defense giving up the big play against Green Bay in 2014 and 2016 that's not on the quarterback, the 278 yards on the ground ,no run game, no offensive line in 2018... again 14 penalties 11 them were up front when your offensive line has 11 penalties it's probably going to be a long day and a loss.. you playing behind the chains it's one of the worst things you can do in football... And again 2022 that same game, I mean you literally in the first half gave up ten yards per carry to deebo Samuels but somehow the defense got credited for keeping the score down but they don't understand time of possession and then the defense also getting so much credit in 2023 they dropped a critical interception and didn't make a critical breakup and then turn around and that very guy yes Trayvon diggs gets a huge contract for himself...​

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You have all these guys like Dbland being like history making corners in the regular season dropping INTS and getting burned like toast in the playoffs, that's why it's a team game everyone saying well now the offense played worse than the defense, no the team lost the games, we could go back and find 5 or 6 plays both offense and defense along with a lot of coaching gaffs to why we are losing these games in the playoffs...​

 

[Blue&Silver]

That's a good story but Prescott still is a great quarterback see he's great you can't be second team all pro and second MVP voting never been part of a losing season without being called great he's just not steadily elite he's very inconsistent he does need help the only truly elite quarterback in the league right now is Patrick mahomes and even he needs help.

I don't disagree here. I'm not a detractor of Prescott. I can't rebut anything you said because we pretty much have the same opinion. Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl, and only got 1 championship win. He got to the playoffs lots, but never a Super Bowl. The only team he had that was a Super Bowl caliber team was the one he went to the Super Bowl with, and I think he was a rookie that year. His entire career he didn't have a running game consistent, or worthy of a playoff team outside of a few years. Because he was that good the decision-makers never surrounded him with great players, or a dominant running game to control the clock. His receivers were mediocre that are probably in the Hall of Fame because he made them great. Clayton and Dupre. The point I tried to make great quarterbacks too often get hung out to dry because they're good. They can win regular-season games and get you to the playoffs, but it's hard to win the playoffs, it's hard to win Super Bowl's without help from the entire roster. You can win a Super Bowl without a great quarterback. It's really tough to win without a really great team. The point of my post was that Prescott is that type of quarterback. He's not surrounded with great talent that can carry him when he does struggle because the decision-makers know he's going to win enough games to get them to the playoffs. He needs more than 1 good receiver. He needs a good running game that includes dominant lineman, and a good running back. He needs a defense that can stifle a good offense. The intent of my post was to show what happens if you get rid of him. Getting to the playoffs isn't exactly easy, and if you can't get to the playoffs you can't win a Super Bowl. The next quarterback might be a stiff. If we get a college quarterback he could be worthless. You could spend decades looking for a great quarterback, and they might never come.

I'm not in the get rid of Prescott camp. I fear if we got rid of him we would be stuck in mediocrity for another decade, or 2. I think we should build the team around him. I don't want to be another Miami stuck in a quagmire of average quarterbacks that can't win in the regular-season when the rest of the team is floundering. I've seen it before.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Possible Superbowl within 1-5 years once Dak is gone.

I love la la land. lol

 

[Captain-Crash]

I remember when dak got hurt and the season was over. Then a lollipop arm guy came in and beat the two previous super bowl teams. dang, those 10 to 15 years went by fast.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Not even remotely true. Getting lambasted due to personnel problems is not quitting. And BTW, those problems were glaring and called out by many of us starting right after the draft. They sucked, but not from quitting.

How in hades are so many not able to comprehend the difference between quitting and getting manhandled?

Gb was not a better team than us. We quit before we even walked on the field and ceedee knew it.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I don't disagree here. I'm not a detractor of Prescott. I can't rebut anything you said because we pretty much have the same opinion. Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl, and only got 1 championship win. He got to the playoffs lots, but never a Super Bowl. The only team he had that was a Super Bowl caliber team was the one he went to the Super Bowl with, and I think he was a rookie that year. His entire career he didn't have a running game consistent, or worthy of a playoff team outside of a few years. Because he was that good the decision-makers never surrounded him with great players, or a dominant running game to control the clock. His receivers were mediocre that are probably in the Hall of Fame because he made them great. Clayton and Dupre. The point I tried to make great quarterbacks too often get hung out to dry because they're good. They can win regular-season games and get you to the playoffs, but it's hard to win the playoffs, it's hard to win Super Bowl's without help from the entire roster. You can win a Super Bowl without a great quarterback. It's really tough to win without a really great team. The point of my post was that Prescott is that type of quarterback. He's not surrounded with great talent that can carry him when he does struggle because the decision-makers know he's going to win enough games to get them to the playoffs. He needs more than 1 good receiver. He needs a good running game that includes dominant lineman, and a good running back. He needs a defense that can stifle a good offense. The intent of my post was to show what happens if you get rid of him. Getting to the playoffs isn't exactly easy, and if you can't get to the playoffs you can't win a Super Bowl. The next quarterback might be a stiff. If we get a college quarterback he could be worthless. You could spend decades looking for a great quarterback, and they might never come.

I'm not in the get rid of Prescott camp. I fear if we got rid of him we would be stuck in mediocrity for another decade, or 2. I think we should build the team around him. I don't want to be another Miami stuck in a quagmire of average quarterbacks that can't win in the regular-season when the rest of the team is floundering. I've seen it before.

You claim some sort of objectivity and yet proceed to claim 20 years of mediocrity if we get rid of him?

Thats crazy.

If that happens it certainly wouldnt be from being rid of dak. And it wouldnt be much of a change from having him either.

 

[5Stars]

That's a good story but Prescott still is a great quarterback see he's great you can't be second team all pro and second MVP voting never been part of a losing season without being called great he's just not steadily elite he's very inconsistent he does need help the only truly elite quarterback in the league right now is Patrick mahomes and even he needs help..

So I'm saying Prescott is great he's literally at the top of his group in his era since 2016 he's been part of so many #1 offenses top three offenses I don't think our offense has been outside the top five when he's playing from the first game and ends up finishing the season again no losing seasons he's already top nine in touchdown interception ratio all time in the NFL you can't be not great with that resume I get it all quarterbacks on a team it's a team game need help to win in the big games including Dan Marino there are a lot of quarterbacks that were great they end up making the Hall of Fame lots of players that were great in the Hall of Fame that have no rings stop putting this on the quarterback because there are a lot of great players who literally made a ton of money in their career at all other positions they were at the top of their game and never helped their team win a championship this is truly I think it's the Ultimate Team game is football there's so many moving parts and then you add in coaching and the schemes and the game plans and the type of league ran with the officiating you're literally have to have everybody on the same page in the same game it only takes a couple to mess it up...​

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I mean how many other Super Bowls the Dallas Cowboys could have won except for one play here or there??​

​

maybe if there was instant replay in both of those Steelers losses or the tight end dropping the pass in the end zone or that just one play that Joe Montana made with the catch in the back of the end zone that's still to this day we don't know if that ball was being thrown away...​

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it's a fine line between winning the big one and losing...​

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I mean we got really close with Danny white and Danny white in my opinion not even better than Romo or Prescott he had an upside-down touchdown- interception ratio in the playoffs and not much bettrer in the regular season. That means he made a lot of mistakes that his team covered up , great teams that he was on, you know with a great offensive line one, of the best running backs of all time one, of the best defenses of all time all helped him get to those championship games not much different than Blake Bortles, Sanchez, &Nick Foles, I mean you got Colin Kaepernick, Garoppolo making it to a Super Bowl..​

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Those teams were great, literally so many quarterbacks were carried by better teams,​

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our great quarterbacks in Romo and Prescott have been let down by their team and no they didn't overcome it ,no they didn't elevate the team because you know what too many bad things happened in those games...​

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You can't overcome that many mistakes, you know like 14 penalties or your defense giving up the big play against Green Bay in 2014 and 2016 that's not on the quarterback, the 278 yards on the ground ,no run game, no offensive line in 2018... again 14 penalties 11 them were up front when your offensive line has 11 penalties it's probably going to be a long day and a loss.. you playing behind the chains it's one of the worst things you can do in football... And again 2022 that same game, I mean you literally in the first half gave up ten yards per carry to deebo Samuels but somehow the defense got credited for keeping the score down but they don't understand time of possession and then the defense also getting so much credit in 2023 they dropped a critical interception and didn't make a critical breakup and then turn around and that very guy yes Trayvon diggs gets a huge contract for himself...​

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You have all these guys like Dbland being like history making corners in the regular season dropping INTS and getting burned like toast in the playoffs, that's why it's a team game everyone saying well now the offense played worse than the defense, no the team lost the games, we could go back and find 5 or 6 plays both offense and defense along with a lot of coaching gaffs to why we are losing these games in the playoffs...​

Honestly! Does anyone really read these novels? lol. If you do, you have a lot of time on your hands.

 

[Motorola]

Marino played in the SB his second year. He had the bad luck to play a 17-1 49ers team that was one of the strongest single season teams of all time. Otherwise he likely has at least one ring.

Marino and his Dolphins made it back to the AFCCG twice more - after the 1985 and 1992 seasons.
The irony of losing the AFC Championship game to the Patriots___
had the Dolphins been victorious- they would have faced the Bears in SB XX.
Miami was the team that kept that Chicago juggernaut from going undefeated during the regular season.

 

[DFWJC]

I doubt it

 

[Chasing6]

Dak is 22-26 against teams that finished the season with a winning record, 2-5 in the playoffs with one being the Bucs who were 8-9, and just watch the last playoff game when that clown threw for 0 yards in the 1st QTR and two pick sixesss before half to take the wind out of his team and Lamb even shaking his head at that circus performance!! Oh yeah, even players mothers are tired of it.

What's GM Jethro's record?