Possible backup QB, Bills E.J. Manuel, would you?

[Rockport]

I like your positive uptake on this but Weeden is really bad. He had more snaps to learn the system than any other backup last year in the league and yet when asked to win us a game, he does the total opposite and losses a game for us. See Arizona game last year and you will know what I mean. He flat out gave the game to the Cardinals.

So right now anything is better than Weeden. EJ, Austin Davis, and even Tanney is better than that scrub of a backup.

I watched the Arizona game and he was bad. A big reason for that is it was his initial game time for the year. Imagine bringing in someone new at this point and him having to play in a new system he doesn't know. You can't learn it in a few weeks. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Weeden is all that good but he's the best option for a backup at this point of the year.

 

[Rockport]

I'm not as certain of that as your are. I think as a result of Weeden's experience at this point in their perspective careers he may be the better quarterback, but who knows what would happen if we put Vaughan in a sink or swim situation. He may just rise to the occasion. On the flipside, we know exactly what would happen if Weeden got the nod. He would be check down charlie the majority of the game, and may on occasion throw a good ball, but ultimately he would be a bus driver, with the hope that the Cowboys defense can win the game.

According to the coaches Weeden has made big improvements since last year and you can't make any kind of reasonable judgement based on preseason games this year because of the players he's had to play with.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I have news for you lol.....Austin is closer to a scrub than he is a quality starter in this league lol. I wouldn't trade anything for him. He'll be in free agency for anyone who wants a 2nd or 3rd string quarterback. He's not even a poor man's Romo. Is he better than Weeden? Maybe. I wouldn't be opposed to either one of them being our backup. I have the same faith in about both of them to lead us to the post season if Romo were to go down.

Did I say quality starter? Never stated that and I dont know where you got your info from. I said as a backup for Romo. And yes he is better than Weeden and is a poor mans Romo because of his mobility. In fact, I watched of few games of him to know that with proper coaching he can be a pretty good backup QB and we won't have to worry about Weeden giving the game away like he did with Arizona.

I don't have faith in Weeden leading us in the post season. If Romo goes down were in deep trouble with Weeden.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Did I say quality starter? Never stated that and I dont know where you got your info from. I said as a backup for Romo. And yes he is better than Weeden and is a poor mans Romo because of his mobility. In fact, I watched of few games of him to know that with proper coaching he can be a pretty good backup QB and we won't have to worry about Weeden giving the game away like he did with Arizona.

I don't have faith in Weeden leading us in the post season. If Romo goes down were in deep trouble with Weeden.

You didn't. I was just stating the obvious. HE's not a quality starter in this league so I wouldn't trade for him. When you grab a backup quarterback you do it for 2 reasons. Either because you believe he has potential to be a quality starter or because you believe he's already a quality starter. Austin Davis IMO, is neither. If Romo goes down we are in deep trouble with Weeden, Austin Davis or whoever is all i'm saying. I'm not against him. I'm just not trading for him. I'd take my shot on him when he gets cut because he will get cut. Or Case Keenum will.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I watched the Arizona game and he was bad. A big reason for that is it was his initial game time for the year. Imagine bringing in someone new at this point and him having to play in a new system he doesn't know. You can't learn it in a few weeks. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Weeden is all that good but he's the best option for a backup at this point of the year.

Sorry dude I have to disagree. Weeden has plenty of time to digest the playoff. Romo would take time off from practice every Thursday to heal his back. Weeden got all of those snaps. He also has been an NFL starter before and thus that he didn't know the playbook is not a logical excuse.

There were many things that really stood out for me during that game about Weeden. First of all, he stairs down his receivers. Thats a big NO NO in the NFL and something that he should have know by now not to do. Secondly, his timing is way off. His passes was a split second late.

Call it pressure or what not Weeden is not even qualified to be backup. A backup can manage a game and make sure that we don't lose. Weeden did the complete opposite and actually lost that game for us single handedly.

I'm all for getting rid of him. There are better and younger backups out there thats better than Weeden.

 

[jday]

According to the coaches Weeden has made big improvements since last year and you can't make any kind of reasonable judgement based on preseason games this year because of the players he's had to play with.

The coaches say that of players every year only to never see it on the field. I'm not basing my opinion of Weeden just on what he has done in preseason. The guy has a pretty large catalog of failure he has put together throughout his career. He is not an NFL quarterback...plain and simple. And unless you can provide me an example of a time where Garrett bluntly said a player sucks or something to that effect, I will pass on taking what he says about players seriously.

 

[ConstantReboot]

You didn't. I was just stating the obvious. HE's not a quality starter in this league so I wouldn't trade for him. When you grab a backup quarterback you do it for 2 reasons. Either because you believe he has potential to be a quality starter or because you believe he's already a quality starter. Austin Davis IMO, is neither. If Romo goes down we are in deep trouble with Weeden, Austin Davis or whoever is all i'm saying. I'm not against him. I'm just not trading for him. I'd take my shot on him when he gets cut because he will get cut. Or Case Keenum will.

Thats your opinion and we can leave it at. But your wrong. First of all, I have no idea why you would think he's not a capable starter. He broke Brett Favre's in Ole Miss and has a gun slinging type of game style. Secondly, he is young. He is only 26. Fischer also named him the starter in 2014 when Sam Bradford went down because he was their best QB. Now Fischer wants to go with someone with more experience.

His style is very similar to Romo and had one of the highest completion precentages starting for the first in the NFL. He is raw because he doesn't have too much NFL experience unlike Weeden. But he can be taught with proper coaching. I would surely give him a chance rather than Weeden.

 

[Jenky]

I'd take EJ.

 

[Rockport]

The coaches say that of players every year only to never see it on the field. I'm not basing my opinion of Weeden just on what he has done in preseason. The guy has a pretty large catalog of failure he has put together throughout his career. He is not an NFL quarterback...plain and simple. And unless you can provide me an example of a time where Garrett bluntly said a player sucks or something to that effect, I will pass on taking what he says about players seriously.

Sometimes the coaches are right. And my point all along is that no matter if you like it or not, he's going to be the backup barring injury.

 

[jday]

Sometimes the coaches are right. And my point all along is that no matter if you like it or not, he's going to be the backup barring injury.

If that is your point, then you and I have been having two different conversations.

 

[bodi]

no

 

[dallasdave]

Our local sports radio was talking to a Buffalo sportswriter about their QB situation...they have Matt Cassel, Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel all competing for the starting spot. He suggested that Manuel is the third guy and if so could be cut (I know, he is starting their 3rd game, but the reporter basically said it was Ryan giving him the chance to cut his throat).

If Manuel were cut, would you consider him an upgrade to Weeden at QB?

Showers is good get rid of the other 2 guys(And I don't mean Romo)

 

[chris1995]

I'd take Dustin Vaughan over Weeden at this point. As has been echoed in many of the responses above, if Romo goes down, the season is toast, so the Cowboys may as well try to really develop a true backup. Weeden is not going to be in the league for very much longer, so why waste time on him?

I would take Showers over both of them.

 

[chris1995]

Mallett is 6'7" with a cannon arm who can definitely stretch the field and could start for at least a few teams, OB is a chicken poop for going with a play not to lose loser in Hoyer. He would be among the best back-ups in the league Showers can be 3rd string.

Romo, Mallett, and Showers, now that's a 1,2,3 punch. Like that QB picture.

 

[Redball Express]

I might take Quincy right now over Weeden, so I would jump all over this.

This decision to stick with Weeden makes as much sense as why we let Murray go.

None.

All the evidence points to a big personnel mistake to me.

Weeden has done absolutely nothing in almost 2 years.

The RBs are floundering around like they don't know the offense.

I'm worried this team and head coach have their heads in the clouds and are reading their press clippings too much.

Garrett has a crisis coming I'm afraid.

Time to wipe the grin off his face and start showing some concern.

To me..the team has lost a lot of its identity with Murray gone and the current backs have no clue.

I sense no physicality now from the team and that is onerous.

Their practices against the Rams was a disaster..

their 2 pre-season games have been a sleepwalk..

Just my 2 cents.

 

[BlueNSilver88]

This decision to stick with Weeden makes as much sense as why we let Murray go.

None.

All the evidence points to a big personnel mistake to me.

Weeden has done absolutely nothing in almost 2 years.

The RBs are floundering around like they don't know the offense.

I'm worried this team and head coach have their heads in the clouds and are reading their press clippings too much.

Garrett has a crisis coming I'm afraid.

Time to wipe the grin off his face and start showing some concern.

To me..the team has lost a lot of its identity with Murray gone and the current backs have no clue.

I sense no physicality now from the team and that is onerous.

Their practices against the Rams was a disaster..

their 2 pre-season games have been a sleepwalk..

Just my 2 cents.

oh no, we look bad in pre-season with hardly any main starters participating (on O)...the sky is falling....we will go 8-8 again

 

[Redball Express]

oh no, we look bad in pre-season with hardly any main starters participating (on O)...the sky is falling....we will go 8-8 again

Not saying that..

I know its not game time yet..

But I just think more should be expected given the results.

I'm just not convinced the team is up for what is ahead.

We'll see.

 

[jday]

I would take Showers over both of them.

Showers is an interesting prospect. But I wonder if he is not more pure athlete than an nfl qb.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I can't believe folks still defend weeden... he's terrible, and been so for quite some time.

 

[KJJ]

I would definitely take a chance on Manuel he's only entering his third season and is 25 years old. He's younger than Weeden and early enough in his career that he could still end up being a solid QB.