carr blows, spare me please jerruhray2:da_whiz_kid;1379214 said:I really don't think Carr will be all that expensive, and from what I heard Houston wants a fifth for him, so I say let's do it... I mean, he's getting cut by the Texans, and I really don't think he has to much leverage to negotiate anything expensive...he can be a backup and competition...This is my opinion though...
philo beddoe;1379322 said:CFL All-Star Ricky Ray of the Edmonton Eskimos.
Get your facts right, ace. Ray spent the entire 2004 season with the Jets. Look it up.ABQCOWBOY;1379796 said:Proven in the CFL is not proven in the NFL. He's had two shots in the NFL. One with the Niners, where he never made the team and one with the Jets where he never played and got cut after 6 games.
No running game & a poor offensive line will do that to anybody, ace. What's your boy Q's QB ranking?silverbear;1379988 said:Hmmm, these numbers show us that Ray's quarterback rating has been steadily DECLINING since he hit the CFL... his quarterback rating-- in a league that is decidely inferior to the NFL-- has been under 90 the last 2 years...
philo beddoe;1380085 said:No running game & a poor offensive line will do that to anybody, ace. What's your boy Q's QB ranking?
da_whiz_kid;1379214 said:I really don't think Carr will be all that expensive, and from what I heard Houston wants a fifth for him, so I say let's do it... I mean, he's getting cut by the Texans, and I really don't think he has to much leverage to negotiate anything expensive...he can be a backup and competition...This is my opinion though...
philo beddoe;1380084 said:Get your facts right, ace. Ray spent the entire 2004 season with the Jets. Look it up.
I doubt Garcia looks good outside of the WCO, based on past performance. It doesn't sound like we're going to be running anything close to that here. Granted, he won't be starting, but if you're going to spend $$$ on a backup vet and not run the offense he's suited for, when he does have to play he's gonna be behind the double 8-ball (potentially, lack of playing time and bad offensive fit).cowboyed;1380075 said:What about Garcia, if he doesn't land a starter gig. He has a similar playing style to Romo, is a more experienced veteran and can be clutch. The right amount of money might convince him to backup Romo after all. And they both have similar heritages.
ABQCOWBOY;1380205 said:Look fellas, philo beddoe has come up with a nick name for me. I think it's Ace. Aint that cute? :laugh2:
Look, if it makes you feel better for me to say that Ray tried out for the 49ers in 2001, dressed for only one pre-season game, did not make the team and was asked to leave, OK. There ya go.
If it makes you feel better for me to say that in 2004, Ray was signed by the Jets, dressed for only six games, where he only held a clip board, did not throw a single pass, where the Jets elected to go with a QB who had substance abuse issues over him, and was not asked to return by the Jets for 05 (or any NFL team for that matter), so be it.
Do you feel better now?
JFlgn;1380033 said:He's still under contract but due to Chad Pennington's rebound from injury and Kellen Clemens progress, Ramsay might get cut.
Definitely a possibility.
philo beddoe;1380085 said:No running game & a poor offensive line will do that to anybody, ace.
silverbear;1380297 said:If you can't even put up a 90 QBR in the freakin' CFL, you're most assuredly not NFL material...
Which Ray has already proven, twice...
zeromaster;1380258 said:I doubt Garcia looks good outside of the WCO, based on past performance. It doesn't sound like we're going to be running anything close to that here. Granted, he won't be starting, but if you're going to spend $$$ on a backup vet and not run the offense he's suited for, when he does have to play he's gonna be behind the double 8-ball (potentially, lack of playing time and bad offensive fit).
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ABQCOWBOY;1380299 said:Best be careful Silver. You might end up with one of those fancy nicknames, such as Ace!
joseephuss;1380301 said:Garcia will be 37 later on this month and has a poor history with T.O. I have seen several suggestions for QBs older than 35. I like experience, but there is a point where a player passes over from being experienced to just being old. Especially at the QB postion. This is amplified for Garcia who would have to play in an offense that doesn't fit his strengths.
joseephuss;1380301 said:Garcia will be 37 later on this month and has a poor history with T.O. I have seen several suggestions for QBs older than 35. I like experience, but there is a point where a player passes over from being experienced to just being old. Especially at the QB postion. This is amplified for Garcia who would have to play in an offense that doesn't fit his strengths.
silverbear;1380302 said:Excuse me, while I go cower under my bed...