Prescott vs. Romo Playoffs

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Wrong. Romo sat on the bench for 3 years before he became the starter. How in the world you can say he was a rookie is silly.

Romo and his team failed multiple times in the playoffs. Slice it how you want, make excuses how you want but he had some really great teams and never got out the divisional round.
Yup. Say what you want but that dude never led his team out of the divisional round and yes, he was on some very good teams.
 

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Do you not get the difference between yards allowed and points allowed? Which do you think matters more?
They both matter to me. Giants beat us in 2007 not because of some great defense you are hyping up. I saw the game and remember very well how we were dropping passes and not playing our best football. To the point fans blamed Cabo or wherever the hell they went.
 

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They both matter to me. Giants beat us in 2007 not because of some great defense you are hyping up. I saw the game and remember very well how we were dropping passes and not playing our best football. To the point fans blamed Cabo or wherever the hell they went.
Yards don't matter at all if the team is kept out of the endzone and can't score points because you obviously don't win any games based on yards. There is correlation where a team that allows a lot of yards is going to allow more points, but that likely did not happen IN THE PLAYOFFS for the Giants. When the opposing team is kept from scoring under 16 points per game then you are likely going to win every game because the defense is either not allowing a lot of yards, and/or forcing turnovers, or every team is somehow just "choking" against them, the latter being the least likely. It's just a fact.
 

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They both matter to me. Giants beat us in 2007 not because of some great defense you are hyping up. I saw the game and remember very well how we were dropping passes and not playing our best football. To the point fans blamed Cabo or wherever the hell they went.
Well, that defense DID hold the highest-scoring team in NFL history (up to that point) to only 14 measly points in the Super Bowl

Anyway, on the final drive with the game on the line, it's not like Romo and Dallas didn't put together what normally would be a game-winning drive, nor that Romo didn't throw what should have been the game-winning pass with under 20 seconds left.



It's stuff like this that makes it hard to award playoff wins to QBs
Team game
 

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Well, that defense DID hold the highest-scoring team in NFL history (up to that point) to only 14 measly points in the Super Bowl

Anyway, on the final drive with the game on the line, it's not like Romo and Dallas didn't put together what normally would be a game-winning drive, nor that Romo didn't throw what should have been the game-winning pass with under 20 seconds left.



It's stuff like this that makes it hard to award playoff wins to QBs
Team game

I'm not denying the Giants had the Pats number. They did well against them. But that same effort wasn't made against us. Cowboys had every chance to win that game in 2007 and choked.

The game was mid by Romo. Not one of his best games....he didn't step up the way we needed him to. We could've won in spite of him stepping up. I'm not blaming him for the loss. Just saying he did nothing to win and take the game over.
 

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Yards don't matter at all if the team is kept out of the endzone and can't score points because you obviously don't win any games based on yards. There is correlation where a team that allows a lot of yards is going to allow more points, but that likely did not happen IN THE PLAYOFFS for the Giants. When the opposing team is kept from scoring under 16 points per game then you are likely going to win every game because the defense is either not allowing a lot of yards, and/or forcing turnovers, or every team is somehow just "choking" against them, the latter being the least likely. It's just a fact.
You keep talking about this Giants defense....did you watch the game? Did you think the Giants were better than the Cowboys in 2007? The same Giants team that had to win down the stretch to even get in to begin with? Lets be real here. There's defending Romo and there's just being in denial. My point is they should've won in 2007. Giants weren't undefeated.
 

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Romo for sure has had defenses this good.....and y'all never hyped up this coaching staff up the same one y'all wanted fired lol.
Who is y'all? I dont speak for other people and they dont speak for me.

Garrett was a joke compared to MM and guys like Quinn. Moore free of the horrid Garrett is a whole nother animal.

Which defense did Romo have that was THIS good?
 

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Who is y'all? I dont speak for other people and they dont speak for me.

Garrett was a joke compared to MM and guys like Quinn. Moore free of the horrid Garrett is a whole nother animal.

Which defense did Romo have that was THIS good?
Our damn defense just got lit up by Sam Howel and Joshua Dobbs....like really? Are we going to pretend like this defense started off great and then sucked towards the end of the month?

And yeah you were here this offseason and said McCarthy sucked. For sure I remember you saying it and you said our draft sucked.
 

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Our damn defense just got lit up by Sam Howel and Joshua Dobbs....like really? Are we going to pretend like this defense started off great and then sucked towards the end of the month?

And yeah you were here this offseason and said McCarthy sucked. For sure I remember you saying it and you said our draft sucked.
They did suck. I wasnt confident at all. It was because of the injuries. Getting the guys back healthy for the Bucs game made a difference. This defense healthy is better than anything Romo had.

I said MM sucked? LOL Ok buddy, sure I did. Im not a huge MM fan but he is way better than the horrid Garrett.

I said our draft sucked too? Dont remember that one either. In fact I was defending the offseason. Loved our first round pick and guys like Ferguson.
 

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They did suck. I wasnt confident at all. It was because of the injuries. Getting the guys back healthy for the Bucs game made a difference. This defense healthy is better than anything Romo had.

I said MM sucked? LOL Ok buddy, sure I did. Im not a huge MM fan but he is way better than the horrid Garrett.

I said our draft sucked too? Dont remember that one either. In fact I was defending the offseason. Loved our first round pick and guys like Ferguson.
You liked Ferguson but you did not like anyone else you haven't liked the past two drafts. Either way, we are living in the moment. This defense at its peak is pretty good....but the 2007 defense was STACKED. Ken Hamlin, Demarcus Ware, Jay Ratliff, Newman, Greg Ellis.....let's not pretend like Romo didn't have weapons because they went 13-3 for a reason.
 

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You liked Ferguson but you did not like anyone else you haven't liked the past two drafts. Either way, we are living in the moment. This defense at its peak is pretty good....but the 2007 defense was STACKED. Ken Hamlin, Demarcus Ware, Jay Ratliff, Newman, Greg Ellis.....let's not pretend like Romo didn't have weapons because they went 13-3 for a reason.
YOu must be talking about someone else. Loved the first round pick and the LSU linebacker was one of my favorite picks. Why are you talking about 2 drafts ago? LOL

Who was the original Parsons guy on here while everyone else was dying to get the Falcons TE? CowboyRoy.

Didnt like any of our 3 3rd round picks that year. I would have used them to trade up.
 

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You liked Ferguson but you did not like anyone else you haven't liked the past two drafts. Either way, we are living in the moment. This defense at its peak is pretty good....but the 2007 defense was STACKED. Ken Hamlin, Demarcus Ware, Jay Ratliff, Newman, Greg Ellis.....let's not pretend like Romo didn't have weapons because they went 13-3 for a reason.
So your talking about ONE year where Romo had a good enough team? That was the year that the Pats went undefeated. Cowboys werent going anywhere.

By and large, Romo didnt have what he needed. It was either the defense, the Oline or the coaching or all of the above.
 

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Not a chance. Romo never had a defense like this and certainly never had this kind of coaching.
Thats right mccarthy and moore are better coaches than parcells and payton that romo had from 03-06. Romo is the reason bill retired.

“All you got to do is kick a field goal, the most elementary of plays, and then you just don’t do it. And so I don’t want to go through that process again. Too much blood,” Parcells said.
 

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You keep talking about this Giants defense....did you watch the game? Did you think the Giants were better than the Cowboys in 2007? The same Giants team that had to win down the stretch to even get in to begin with? Lets be real here. There's defending Romo and there's just being in denial. My point is they should've won in 2007. Giants weren't undefeated.
Yes I watched the game. No, the Giants weren't better than a healthy Cowboys in 2007 and the regular season showed it. With TO hobbled, they were more evenly matched though. Anytime you lose 50% of your #1 receiver the team is going suffer. But that is irrelevant, because the Giants got hot at the right time, especially on defense. Were the Giants better than the four teams that they beat to win the SB including the 18-0 Patriots that was averaging over 30 points a game and were held to only 14 with the supposed GOAT at QB? Are you even paying attention?

You and your kind want to put the blame on Romo. Sorry, but that's BS. Romo didn't lose the game in any way. Romo made enough plays for the team to win. Unfortunately, one player is not good enough to overcome deficiencies, or make enough plays over and over again in a limited sample of them, in a team game in a league of parity because there is another team playing with talented players that are trying to stop them.
 

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So your talking about ONE year where Romo had a good enough team? That was the year that the Pats went undefeated. Cowboys werent going anywhere.

By and large, Romo didnt have what he needed. It was either the defense, the Oline or the coaching or all of the above.
How many years do you think Dak had a "good enough" team?
 

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Thats right mccarthy and moore are better coaches than parcells and payton that romo had from 03-06. Romo is the reason bill retired.

“All you got to do is kick a field goal, the most elementary of plays, and then you just don’t do it. And so I don’t want to go through that process again. Too much blood,” Parcells said.
Damn he retired Big Bill too? Damn lol....
 
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