Prescott's Drive

[percyhoward]

Romo was a game manager that year. Prescott's a rookie. He shouldn't be expected to do more but that doesn't mean he's an MVP candidate.

So in 2014, Romo wasn't an MVP candidate.

 

[Risen Star]

That's one way to look at it. Another is that he threw 2 interceptions and fumbled 3 times. While playing with a lead for most of the game. You're right; definitely not a game manager.

Who said he wasn't a game manager? Are you looking for firmer footing?

Link me to me saying Wentz was more than a game manager this year. I'll wait.

 

[Risen Star]

So in 2014, Romo wasn't an MVP candidate.

Well you have Winicki's support here so clearly the team agrees with you.

How can an MVP candidate need to have a lesser load in order for team success? Riddle me that.

 

[zrinkill]

Its embarrassing that stupid posts are still being made about Dak ....... he has been phenomenal this year.

 

[cwbyfan72]

We are having one of the most unprecedented seasons in NFL history, and some folks will never be satisfied. 11-1 was not on my radar, i'm loving every minute of it.

 

[percyhoward]

How can an MVP candidate need to have a lesser load in order for team success?

And you expressed this sentiment with equal fervor in 2014.

 

[kramskoi]

I mean, you won't hear crap from the haters. I've been telling these guys he's good. They see the game first hand, then go make their comments without really studying the game. Seeing the game and studying the game are on two WHOLE different levels. The guy moves the ball, and only the play calling or stupid penalties can stop him.

Prescott is good...he's convinced me, but I'm a bit puzzled on their sometimes reluctance to lean on Elliot. I guess watching E. Smith in the nineties spoiled me...but it seemed Smith was in on every offensive play of the entire game. They used the hell out of him, both as a runner and an excellent receiver. I have never watched a more durable athlete, considering his position...it was freakish and almost bizarre.

 

[Risen Star]

My mistake; I apologize. Your argument, then, is that the guy who threw 2 INTs and fumbled 3 times while never being behind was, in fact, managing the game. Got it.

My argument is that guy will be a vastly superior player in the NFL than the inferior Dak Prescott.

If that steams your clams, so be it. I couldn't possibly find the energy to care. It's my honest evaluation of their skill sets. One's great. The other is marginal.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Prescott is good...he's convinced me, but I'm a bit puzzled on their sometimes reluctance to lean on Elliot. I guess watching E. Smith in the nineties spoiled me...but it seemed Smith was in on every offensive play of the entire game. They used the hell out of him, both as a runner and an excellent receiver. I have never watched a more durable athlete, considering his position...it was freakish and almost bizarre.

It was freakish and almost bizarre. I'd just as soon not lean that heavily on Elliott to find out whether he's that freakish and bizarre, because most likely he isn't.

 

[Risen Star]

And you expressed this sentiment with equal fervor in 2014.

Not really because Romo has proven in past years he's capable of more. Prescott hasn't. But he's a rookie. I'm just saying I don't believe he will ever be more than what he is now. A game manager who will need an outstanding supporting cast around him to win. He won't be a guy who hides warts like a franchise QB.

 

[Clove]

This brings out the weaknesses in passer rating, and why one stat never tells the whole story. As you note, it doesn't include rushing. But it also doesn't iinclude sacks: he took 3 on about 25 dropbacks, which is a lot. It also doesn't include the two fumbles (one lost). If the lost fumble were an INT, his passer rating would plummet. (And no, I don't accept the argument that the fumble "wasn't his fault." First, he was holding the ball a long time all night, creating risk. Second, plenty of INTs "aren't the QBs fault," but they end up in the passer rating anyway.

It also doesn't account for the fact that Dak threw for the fewest yards of any QB facing the Vikings. Oh wait, that's not right: he threw for the second-fewest, after Wentz. And he didn't throw so little because we were being so efficient or running so effectively. He threw so little because we weren't converting 3rd downs. Dallas called passing plays 7 times on 3rd down in the game. We converted one of them, on a very good Dak scramble. On an 8th 3rd down, he fumbled the snap.

When you throw only 18 passes, one play can have an outsized influence on the passer rating stat. In this case, Dak's 108 was built on one play, the long pass to Dez. Passer rating is a useful stat over a large sample; not so much when there are so few passes to work with.

I'm not trying to discount the performance. I thought Dak did admirably in really adverse conditions. But when you talk about a "108 passer rating," you get a vision in your head of a certain type of performance, and this simply wasn't it. We don't need to pretend that Dak was spectacular on Thursday to believe (correctly) that he's amazing overall.

What do you mean holding the ball too long, did you even watch the game? I think you need a little lesson on film study before you give your amateur analysis. He was hit within 2 seconds of snapping the ball on that fumble, FROM BEHIND. His fumble late in the game was on Fredricks. Did you see where he hiked the ball?

If you don't like Dak just admit it and stop acting like you're his secret fan, yet posting BS like this post above. Actually, he won the game so enjoy your misery.

 

[plasticman]

Dak had the highest passer rating of all 6 QB's that played the Viking in Minnesota....by far. Next is Stafford with 87.0. They were the only two of the six to get higher than 67.0.

Dak was the only QB to play the Vikings on their home field and not throw an INT.

Of those six QB's, three were drafted #1 overall, two of them won Super Bowls.

....and Dak outplayed them all.

Wht do some fans not understand that er are only seeing the tip of the iceberg? He's a rookie! This is the most unfamiliar he is ever going to feel about his team. His system, his offense and the NFL.

What we are seeing is Dak struggling! Just like all rookies, he has no experience. This is Dak at his worst!

If you want to call him a busdriver, fine, but even that is going to be temporary. Give him another training camp and preseason and he is going to be elite.

 

[CATCH17]

The fact that he's on pace for nearly 4,000 yards passing suggests he's not a game manager, but if you mean in this game only, his passing and rushing yardage accounted for two-thirds of our offense.

And we lose the game without that drive.

We've seen Dak do it all as a rookie.

He's been a game manager when need be, playmaker that passes all over a team when need be, clutch when need be...

Dak Prescott does it all.. Simple as that.

 

[JD_KaPow]

My argument is that guy will be a vastly superior player in the NFL than the inferior Dak Prescott.

If that steams your clams, so be it. I couldn't possibly find the energy to care. It's my honest evaluation of their skill sets. One's great. The other is marginal.

I deleted my post, because it was beneath me. Not fast enough, though: I do apologize.

I don't have an opinion on who will have the better career. I think Dak is in the best situation possible to reach his ceiling, whatever that is, and I'm thankful for that. I think Wentz's ceiling is likely higher, but I don't know that he'll reach it in the situation he's in.

I am puzzled by your continuing assessment of Dak's skill set as "marginal." I've been very pleasantly surprised by his accuracy, which has been, not perfect, but much better than advertised (without accuracy, a QB is nothing). That, combined with his obvious intelligence and coachability, makes me very optimistic.

 

[Clove]

Prescott is good...he's convinced me, but I'm a bit puzzled on their sometimes reluctance to lean on Elliot. I guess watching E. Smith in the nineties spoiled me...but it seemed Smith was in on every offensive play of the entire game. They used the hell out of him, both as a runner and an excellent receiver. I have never watched a more durable athlete, considering his position...it was freakish and almost bizarre.

I think he had two HUGE runs called back due to penalties. Those huge plays would have definitely put him over 150 yds.

 

[Risen Star]

Prescott is good...he's convinced me, but I'm a bit puzzled on their sometimes reluctance to lean on Elliot. I guess watching E. Smith in the nineties spoiled me...but it seemed Smith was in on every offensive play of the entire game. They used the hell out of him, both as a runner and an excellent receiver. I have never watched a more durable athlete, considering his position...it was freakish and almost bizarre.

Because of the society we live in today. Men have been emasculated. We're too concerned with safety and feelings these days. Nobody talked about Emmitt's well being and future then. They just rode the horse and were rewarded for it with the best career a RB has ever had. Now we have the same type of talent and we're busy assigning a series each half to a lesser player and all 3rd downs to a complete bum.

If you go down you go down swinging. You play your best hand. The Cowboys' best shot at winning is Ezekiel Elliott on the field and being the focal point of every game. Just like Emmitt Smith was.

Imagine doing this to Emmitt. Imagine taking Emmitt out on 3rd downs for Sherman Williams or Derrick Lassic. People would have thought you were nuts yet this crap is accepted with Zeke and Dunbar.

 

[Risen Star]

I deleted my post, because it was beneath me. Not fast enough, though: I do apologize.

I don't have an opinion on who will have the better career. I think Dak is in the best situation possible to reach his ceiling, whatever that is, and I'm thankful for that. I think Wentz's ceiling is likely higher, but I don't know that he'll reach it in the situation he's in.

I am puzzled by your continuing assessment of Dak's skill set as "marginal." I've been very pleasantly surprised by his accuracy, which has been, not perfect, but much better than advertised (without accuracy, a QB is nothing). That, combined with his obvious intelligence and coachability, makes me very optimistic.

If you think Wentz' ceiling is higher than you must believe he's the more talented player.

Welcome aboard. We'll be proven over time but I'd rather be wrong.

 

[percyhoward]

Not really because Romo has proven in past years he's capable of more.

And yet most would rank 2014 as Romo's best season.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Tough crowd..

Don't pay any attention to him. Risen is honing his act for the day Don Rickles dies. Someone has to take that comedic genuis' place.

 

[CATCH17]

Again, Romo ranked 17th in that category in 2014.

And we run the ball 50% of the time vs the rest of the league that throws it 60% of the time.