Prisco Ranks Cowboys Number 4 in NFL; Tops in NFC

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bbgun;1621119 said:
No members? No. Hell, I'm one of them. This screed also qualifies as putting words in my mouth. Do the kneejerk media haters outnumber the neutral types by a ratio of 80:20? Probably.



Hundreds of what? Sensible media defenders? Where?



I don't relish being the conscience of this board, but it'll probably get me into Heaven someday.


Just wondering why is the media only "sensible" when it bashes the Cowboys?

You like to call people sheep and yet when it comes to the Galloways, JFE's and others who put down the COwboys, you follow behind them with your tail wagging. You are exactly what you pretend to despise a sheep to a different cause
 

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one guy is ranking us 4th. one other guy is ranking us last in the nfc east. that just shows how unpredictable this season will be. i wouldn't be surprised by either result.
 

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superpunk;1621112 said:
I was not aware that the filter wouldn't catch that. There was no circumvention attempt - circumvention would be if I substituted symbols for letters - i.e. "@" for "a", and so on, so that the word still looks like a curse word, but the filter won't catch it. In this case, I simply found a combination it didn't recognize, which is something else entirely.

Sometimes you surprise me with how little you know.

Oh, wow, you really informed me here. My point being is that you resorted to cursing and that typically isn't indicative of coherent thought. Point and case, you see a couple arguing and one is cussing the other one out while the other one is able to argue without name-calling, cursing and the like, who do you think is thinking clearly? And who do you think has the right of it in that case?

superpunk;1621098 said:
I am calm. Don't resort to the "calm down" tactics as though you could actually upset me. In keeping with a theme here today, I find your lack of intellect disturbing.

Wow, you kinda just keep proving my point over and over again. You sit here and insult me, because you know that you can't win. So you resort to simple name-calling in an attempt to make your point seem more valid...

superpunk;1621098 said:
This makes no sense.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you...

superpunk said:
Find me anyone who read this article and declared Prisco "smart". Those are your words - that's what you are speaking out against. It's only too bad it doesn't exist except in your poor little world. Produce a quote from anyone in this thread, before your little diatribe began, who declared that Prisco was smart because of his take on the NFC's best teams.

And when you don't, just save yourself the embarassment and get the hell out. Your third-grade "superpunk circumvented the language filter, daddy" bull**** is played out, genius.

Did somebody say that Prisco was smart??? Nope, but they sure as hell danced around it pretty well. Things like, GOOD POST! And, this is what I like to read, positive stuff??? Well, nobody wants to read anything written by a moron (which is why your about to go on ignore), so...

And didn't he give his take on all the NFC teams???

You seem to get agitated for no good reason. Let's see so far, you've called me stupid, said hell and **** in a vain attempt to make your point seem more valid. Hardly what I'd call calm. I very rarely ever hear that in a level voice. And I merely pointed out your cursing because it goes against forum rules, but chances are, you won't get warned. Whereas if I was to call you stupid, I'd get about 3 mods jumping on me. Just goes to show you that as different as this board claims to be from ES, maybe the chasm isn't as big as you would like to believe.
 

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firehawk350;1621094 said:
You only say that because it's not a 50% split. You are so freaking thick that you think because it's a random event with two outcomes, anytime you do it multiple times, it should end out at a 50-50 split. The world is an imperfect place and on top of that, the coin is heavier one side than the other.

More often then not, you won't end with a 50-50 split. The variance just happened to be on the right side.
:lmao2: :lmao:
 

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firehawk350;1621125 said:
Hmmmm, I don't ever saying that I didn't think Prisco was a moron. So again, I'm not sure why you think I changed my argument. You realize that football prognostication can be dodgy AND Prisco is a moron. Those aren't two incompatiable ideas.
Mostly because you changed your tune.

If you wanted to say prognostication is sketchy, say it. That isn't what you said.

You said Prisco is an idiot. You then said he was "outsmarted" by a monkey and I called you on that.

Then you changed it to you were talking about the inexact science of football predicting. Yet the subject of 3 previous posts was on Prisco as idiot.

The idea of random picking did not appear until AFTER it was obvious to you that saying "outsmarted by a monkey" looked rather foolish.

That's not even the point! It wasn't about the monkey, or else they'd train a monkey to pick up a card or something to indicate a winner. The point was Prisco is stupid because he's wrong as often as he's right and that a completely random event can predict better then him.
Um, no. If this was your original intent it sure wasn't stated in your opening 3 posts.

Yet you miss nothing... Hmmmm... I sense some spin control coming on...
No need for spin control. I misspelled a word. Whoop-dee-freaking-doo. I will again.

Oh, first you missed NOTHING, and now you don't miss "reading between the lines" and intent. Anyways, maybe that's a particularly harsh way of proving my point, but you see how you can quote something or take it out of context and it makes the person look like they are doing spin-control? You quote me and then I have to refine my point as to better state it or clarify it and you assume I'm just trying to talk out of both sides of my mouth.
I didn't say you're talking out of both sides of your mouth though. Never even insinuated it.

You did a poor job of stating your point, got called on it, then went into damage control that just made it worse. Why not simply say the truth.

"You're right. I didn't mean to make it sound like the monkey is smarter than Prisco. I was trying to say he is not a reliable reference point. My bad."

No one would fault you for that. We all tend to make things as clear as mud now and then. Yet there was no attempt on your part to own up to the fallacy that you perpetrated. At all.

Clarify please...
It means that your first post tends to lend credence to the translation you now deny.

BTW, I'll gladly drop this once you can man up and simply admit you did a poor job of explaining your stance until challenged on it. "Outsmarted by a monkey" screams louder than the rest of song.
 

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superpunk;1621149 said:
http://i32.***BLOCKED***/albums/d2/superpunk2884/oh20snap.jpg

That was a good one. :D
This and the bad post are great.

:lmao:
 

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firehawk350;1621177 said:
Oh, wow, you really informed me here. My point being is that you resorted to cursing and that typically isn't indicative of coherent thought. Point and case, you see a couple arguing and one is cussing the other one out while the other one is able to argue without name-calling, cursing and the like, who do you think is thinking clearly? And who do you think has the right of it in that case?

Would you have preferred it if I told you your point was garbage? nonsense? baseless? unfounded? These are all synonyms. Pick one and live with it, I don't care.


firehawk now said:
Did somebody say that Prisco was smart??? Nope
firehawk a few minutes ago said:
BUT, oh no, somebody picks the Cowboys to be really good and now he's smart. That's my point.
Good. You understand now. You got all worked up for no reason (after all, it was only your "made-up" point all along), and tried to speak out against something that you now acknowledge never existed.

I'm just happy to have been a part of your breakthrough.

Whereas if I was to call you stupid, I'd get about 3 mods jumping on me. Just goes to show you that as different as this board claims to be from ES, maybe the chasm isn't as big as you would like to believe.
This is not true. Nothing I did violated any rule - and that wouldn't change in the least if it was you doing it instead.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1621138 said:
Well apparently you do care because youve come in here trying to discredit this ranking to the best of your ability when just about every Cowboys fan ahs failed to put much significance into it. Wonder why that is?

Actions typically speak louder than words and most everyone has your team at the bottom of the division.
Why is that??? I think it's pretty clear, I find CZ's little condescending act to ES very tiresome. First off, they think CZ (in general) thinks you are that much better and include a couple of posts of skins fans homering out and when it pointed out to you that posters here do the same, the tired line of, "well most cowboys fans called that person stupid" comes out. Ummmm, most Skins fans think that whatever poster there thinks that that particular post is stupid.

Second, you claim like your so above petty insults and encourage opposing ideas, yet anyone comes up here with anything but, SUPER BOWL! is called down pretty hard. If you don't think Newman is the best corner since Deion, and Romo is the best QB in the NFC, you are slammed pretty hard here.

Hey, if you want to treat me different because I like the skins, then fine, that's cool. But don't act like the rules apply all the same to every poster when clearly that isn't the case.

I do like it here sometimes, otherwise why would I post, but I grow tired of the "we're better then you" attitude I get from certain posters (like superpunk).
 

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BigDFan5;1621168 said:
Just wondering why is the media only "sensible" when it bashes the Cowboys?

Once again, reading (like hygiene) isn't one of your strengths. I never used the word "only," and I was clearly referring to sensible, fair-minded posters at the Zone (hint: not you)--not the media itself. Can you not engage in discourse without distorting your opponent's words? Very troll-like.

You like to call people sheep and yet when it comes to the Galloways, JFE's and others who put down the COwboys, you follow behind them with your tail wagging. You are exactly what you pretend to despise a sheep to a different cause

Well, that would only make sense if they put down the Cowboys full-time or without merit--but you haven't made that case. Btw, by singling out these particular names, you're only making my point. You can't handle any kind of dissent. You sit back, wait for them to write a column, then pounce when they fail to confirm your pro-Dallas biases or reflect your version of reality. Sad. If you want an honest opinion about the team, don't ask a Cowboys fan.
 

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firehawk350;1621200 said:
Why is that??? I think it's pretty clear, I find CZ's little condescending act to ES very tiresome. First off, they think CZ (in general) thinks you are that much better and include a couple of posts of skins fans homering out and when it pointed out to you that posters here do the same, the tired line of, "well most cowboys fans called that person stupid" comes out. Ummmm, most Skins fans think that whatever poster there thinks that that particular post is stupid.

Second, you claim like your so above petty insults and encourage opposing ideas, yet anyone comes up here with anything but, SUPER BOWL! is called down pretty hard. If you don't think Newman is the best corner since Deion, and Romo is the best QB in the NFC, you are slammed pretty hard here.

Hey, if you want to treat me different because I like the skins, then fine, that's cool. But don't act like the rules apply all the same to every poster when clearly that isn't the case.

This is a load of "nonsense".

I do like it here sometimes, otherwise why would I post, but I grow tired of the "we're better then you" attitude I get from certain posters (like superpunk).

It's not an attitude. I am better than you. And I won't admit that to just anyone - so cherish it.
 

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bbgun;1621210 said:
Once again, reading (like hygiene) isn't one of your strengths. I never used the word "only," and I was clearly referring to sensible, fair-minded posters at the Zone (hint: not you)--not the media itself. Can you not engage in discourse without distorting your opponent's words? Very troll-like.

"sensible media defenders"

So its either defending the sensible media

Or you have to be sensible to defend the media

either way it shows my point You only chime in about the media when they either A say something positive (which you always disagree with) or B when they say something negative (which you always agree with)

Your intent is obvious


Well, that would only make sense if they put down the Cowboys full-time or without merit--but you haven't made that case. Btw, by singling out these particular names, you're only making my point. You can't handle any kind of dissent. You sit back, wait for them to write a column, then pounce when they fail to confirm your pro-Dallas biases or reflect your version of reality. Sad. If you want an honest opinion about the team, don't ask a Cowboys fan.

Those were just the 2 most visible local people I thought of. I can name many more media people if you like.

The point is the only time you care is if people disagree with the media they are "sheep"

If they agree with the media they are hypocritical sheep

Either way ppgun wins huh.

I make my own opinions about the team unlike you i am not a slave to the media and I do not bow at what they say (well as long as they are being negative that is) like you do.
 

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Hostile;1621186 said:
Mostly because you changed your tune.

If you wanted to say prognostication is sketchy, say it. That isn't what you said.

You said Prisco is an idiot. You then said he was "outsmarted" by a monkey and I called you on that.

Then you changed it to you were talking about the inexact science of football predicting. Yet the subject of 3 previous posts was on Prisco as idiot.

The idea of random picking did not appear until AFTER it was obvious to you that saying "outsmarted by a monkey" looked rather foolish.

Because the first post was meant as a simple jab at the ranking and anyone who agreed to it. Anyone who read the accompanying article I posted the link to would have known the whole story. I repeat it was a sarcastic remark. I didn't know 2nd grade level linguistics surpassed your all-encompassing intellect.

Hostile;1621186 said:
Um, no. If this was your original intent it sure wasn't stated in your opening 3 posts.

No need for spin control. I misspelled a word. Whoop-dee-freaking-doo. I will again.

More spin control, anarchy!!!! I said the spin control was applied to your statement of, I miss nothing. Later to be refined as, I miss nothing when it comes to reading between the lines and intent. Way to miss the point again Hostile. YAY you!

Hostile;1621186 said:
I didn't say you're talking out of both sides of your mouth though. Never even insinuated it.

You did a poor job of stating your point, got called on it, then went into damage control that just made it worse. Why not simply say the truth.

I clarified beyond the point that anybody else would have to. My freaking point is, complete without sarcasm, that Prisco is a moron and therefore his ranking is mostly likely ********. Yet, you have guys who defend it, whereas if they ranking was reversed and it was a perceived slight, those same guys would be saying things like, typical anti-cowboys bias and he's ******** and so is everything he writes.

Hostile;1621186 said:
"You're right. I didn't mean to make it sound like the monkey is smarter than Prisco. I was trying to say he is not a reliable reference point. My bad."

No one would fault you for that. We all tend to make things as clear as mud now and then. Yet there was no attempt on your part to own up to the fallacy that you perpetrated. At all.

I'm sorry I didn't bow down to you... But I clearly did say that I didn't mean that the monkey was smarter than Prisco. I clearly posted that it wouldn't matter since it was a random event.

Hostile;1621186 said:
It means that your first post tends to lend credence to the translation you now deny.

BTW, I'll gladly drop this once you can man up and simply admit you did a poor job of explaining your stance until challenged on it. "Outsmarted by a monkey" screams louder than the rest of song.

And what translation is that? Because I did say that both translations were correct. Prisco IS a moron and predicting the future (especially in sports) IS difficult. Does that clarify anything for you?

And I clarified the monkey thing as sarcasm. Your so stuck on it that I guess I'll try ONE more time to help you. Prisco is obviously smarter than a primate. A primate can't write an article, no matter how stupid it is. It was a sarcastic jab at prisco. I figured any idiot with common sense could figure that out on their own. Sorry I assumed you had common sense.
 

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superpunk;1621222 said:
This is a load of "nonsense".



It's not an attitude. I am better than you. And I won't admit that to just anyone - so cherish it.
Superpunk, I'm glad you have finally run out of things to say. My sense of decency thanks you, or whatever caused this temporary bout of carpal tunnel. I'm pretty sure, somewhere, somebody is throwing a parade to celebrate the sudden jump of intelligence on this thread.

You aren't better than anyone BTW. Unless you are being sarcastic, in that case, you better clarify before everyone takes it wrong. If your not, it's dillholes like you that keep racism alive and attitudes like yours that causes religious strife in the middle east and the holocaust in germany back in 1940s. So basically, I'm saying that your attitude, or ones like yours, causes most social problems our world has faced, or faces now. Good job, you may be the the zone's biggest ********. That is, of course, unless your being sarcastic. Which, as Hostile has so graciously pointed out to me, can't be used without a full explanation accompanying it.
 

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firehawk350;1621256 said:
Superpunk, I'm glad you have finally run out of things to say. My sense of decency thanks you, or whatever caused this temporary bout of carpal tunnel. I'm pretty sure, somewhere, somebody is throwing a parade to celebrate the sudden jump of intelligence on this thread.

You aren't better than anyone BTW. Unless you are being sarcastic, in that case, you better clarify before everyone takes it wrong. If your not, it's dillholes like you that keep racism alive and attitudes like yours that causes religious strife in the middle east and the holocaust in germany back in 1940s. So basically, I'm saying that your attitude, or ones like yours, causes most social problems our world has faced, or faces now. Good job, you may be the the zone's biggest ********. That is, of course, unless your being sarcastic. Which, as Hostile has so graciously pointed out to me, can't be used without a full explanation accompanying it.

I'm glad I could help you.

Next time you want to make a "point", be sure to have a "reason" for making said "point". Then you can avoid these unpleasant scenes wherein you truly represent your fan base very poorly.
 

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BigDFan5;1621228 said:
"sensible media defenders"

So its either defending the sensible media

Or you have to be sensible to defend the media

either way it shows my point You only chime in about the media when they either A say something positive (which you always disagree with) or B when they say something negative (which you always agree with)

Always, huh? Since you're so fond of combing through old posts like some latter-day J. Edgar Hoover, I suggest you prove it. Hell, I didn't even criticize Prisco's enthusiasm for the Boys this year, but rather the hypocritical reaction to him. Of course, that went right over your head.

Your intent is obvious

Yep, you saw right through me.

I make my own opinions about the team unlike you i am not a slave to the media and I do not bow at what they say (well as long as they are being negative that is) like you do.

Ok, Mr. I'm Above It All, go find 20 of your old posts where you disagreed with a pro-Dallas column and agreed with an anti-Dallas voice. You have 9,700 + posts, so it shouldn't be that hard. Tick tock.
 

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superpunk;1621267 said:
I'm glad I could help you.

Next time you want to make a "point", be sure to have a "reason" for making said "point". Then you can avoid these unpleasant scenes wherein you truly represent your fan base very poorly.
That was in no way even close to a response to anything I said in that post.

Note to God: You forgot to put in his brain. But on the positive note, it's amazing he's living without it.
 

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firehawk350;1621279 said:
That was in no way even close to a response to anything I said in that post.

Note to God: You forgot to put in his brain. But on the positive note, it's amazing he's living without it.

What was I supposed to respond to? (Interestingly, you never responded to my post, but that's probably best) Some inane parade of insults aimed at making some point about sarcasm? The fact that you seemingly can't tell the difference between "your" and "you're"? Moronic comparisons to Hitler? No thanks, like I said...I'm better than you.
 

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superpunk;1621286 said:
What was I supposed to respond to? (Interestingly, you never responded to my post, but that's probably best) Some inane parade of insults aimed at making some point about sarcasm? No thanks, like I said...I'm better than you.

Sorry, high and mighty... I was supposed to respond to your posts of garbage and insults? I can honestly say, that I did not know that. Go figure.

Your supposed to actually respond to the fact that your a big ******. You think your better than everyone and bring absolutely nothing to the conversation that I've ever read. I might be wrong, but I've only ever seen condescending and stupid responses that I'm sure you think are funny.
 
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