firehawk350;1620885 said:A power poll is the same thing as a power ranking. I've heard the two terms used interchangeably. Either way, it's funny that the guy ranking your team as best in the NFC is the same one who got outsmarted by a monkey...
You act like this is some sort of demerit to Prisco, but after looking at the article, it's not. The "coin flipping monkey" actually had an extremely good record in picking games. He had a better record than every single "expert" they matched him too. This is a pretty odd occurrence. I'm not a mathematician, but I think that if it was completely random, the monkey would have been at about .500. In fact, he was not. Not counting ties (or whatever the 3rd number is) the monkey's record was .543. That'd pretty far off from what you'd expect.firehawk350;1620885 said:A power poll is the same thing as a power ranking. I've heard the two terms used interchangeably. Either way, it's funny that the guy ranking your team as best in the NFC is the same one who got outsmarted by a monkey...
theogt;1620908 said:You act like this is some sort of demerit to Prisco, but after looking at the article, it's not. The "coin flipping monkey" actually had an extremely good record in picking games. He had a better record than every single "expert" they matched him too. This is a pretty odd occurrence. I'm not a mathematician, but I think that if it was completely random, the monkey would have been at about .500. In fact, he was not. Not counting ties (or whatever the 3rd number is) the monkey's record was .543. That'd pretty far off from what you'd expect.
So basically, when you put up an "expert" against a "coin-flipping monkey" and the monkey's results represent what should be a statistical anomaly, the monkey can win. If the monkey's results were more in line with probability, Prisco would have beat him quite handily.
You just tied firehawk's brain in about 25 knots.superpunk;1620896 said:All polls are rankings, not all rankings are polls.
AsthmaField;1620910 said:Yeah... but how do you account for him picking the Skins at 22? Even a monkey would know that's too high.
theogt;1620908 said:You act like this is some sort of demerit to Prisco, but after looking at the article, it's not. The "coin flipping monkey" actually had an extremely good record in picking games. He had a better record than every single "expert" they matched him too. This is a pretty odd occurrence. I'm not a mathematician, but I think that if it was completely random, the monkey would have been at about .500. In fact, he was not. Not counting ties (or whatever the 3rd number is) the monkey's record was .543. That'd pretty far off from what you'd expect.
So basically, when you put up an "expert" against a "coin-flipping monkey" and the monkey's results represent what should be a statistical anomaly, the monkey can win. If the monkey's results were more in line with probability, Prisco would have beat him quite handily.
Look, its a bird... No, it's a plane... No, it's the point going WAY over your head. The idea was that in predicting football, your just as likely to be correct choosing some random method as opposed to listening to sports prognosticators. Wow, I can't believe that completely flew over your head.Hostile;1620901 said:I don't know if I should be amazed that you believe the monkey had reasoning and thoughts behind his actions rather than random luck and coincidence or not.
I really don't.
Wow, hostile, you are amazingly behind. That's the freaking point! There was no thought process behind the monkey's picks. The point was that not anything about football is better then listening to pete prisco...Hostile;1620901 said:I don't know if I should be amazed that you believe the monkey had reasoning and thoughts behind his actions rather than random luck and coincidence or not.
I really don't.
I went back and got all of your posts in this thread to prove you just lied about the intent of your point was to show that predicting football was the point.firehawk350;1620990 said:Look, its a bird... No, it's a plane... No, it's the point going WAY over your head. The idea was that in predicting football, your just as likely to be correct choosing some random method as opposed to listening to sports prognosticators. Wow, I can't believe that completely flew over your head.
Besides, even looking at it, Prisco had a 128-119-5 record picking games. Which means he's right (when choosing from one team or another) 51% of the time. Even an exact 50% split that would be assumed by a coin flip (even though the chances of that happening are 200:1), he beat a coin-flip less than once a week on average. And he has the advantage of injury reports, match-ups that are shoe-ins (Colts vs. the Browns, a coin flip would get that wrong 50% of the time whereas any moron with a brain would get that right AT LEAST 90% of the time)
So, now, he picked the Boys fourth in the league and he's smart??? Yeah right dude. You only wish it was so because he ranked the Boys so high. Another thread has the Boys doing bad and he's a moron.
And superpunk, semantics are the last recourse of a defeated debate. You completely missed the point and instead, chose to point out a small verbal snafu. Good job...
If your intent was to show that predicting football is an inexact science then why did you bring up a coin flipping monkey? No, your point was that Prisco is not smart, and him having us as the 4th best team is folly. Your post here has nothing to do with what you now claim.firehawk350;1620846 said:Is this the same Pete Prisco that got out-picked (for the games) in the 05 season by a coin-flippin' monkey?
http://www.chff.net/Article.php?Page=643
yup, it appears so. I'm going to consult my three year for a more accurate power poll now, later!
The 3 year old you are going to consult as opposed to Prisco. Meaning he is smarter than Prisco. I'd ask how he fared against the coin flipping monkey but you might take that the wrong way.firehawk350;1620878 said:Sorry, three year old...
Finally, the proof of your attempted deviation here is in the bolded words. You are clearly saying he was "outsmarted" not that there was anything random about it.firehawk350;1620885 said:A power poll is the same thing as a power ranking. I've heard the two terms used interchangeably. Either way, it's funny that the guy ranking your team as best in the NFC is the same one who got outsmarted by a monkey...
Chocolate Lab;1620965 said:You just tied firehawk's brain in about 25 knots.
firehawk350;1620990 said:And superpunk, semantics are the last recourse of a defeated debate. You completely missed the point and instead, chose to point out a small verbal snafu. Good job...
So, you initiated a debate on whether a poll is the same thing as a ranking. It was never about Prisco's rankings with me. You began the semantics debate - you were just horribly incorrect. And that is the point - which I did not miss.A power poll is the same thing as a power ranking.
Wow. I don't even know where to start on this post. I guess I should start with blaming the public school system.firehawk350;1620990 said:Look, its a bird... No, it's a plane... No, it's the point going WAY over your head. The idea was that in predicting football, your just as likely to be correct choosing some random method as opposed to listening to sports prognosticators. Wow, I can't believe that completely flew over your head.
Besides, even looking at it, Prisco had a 128-119-5 record picking games. Which means he's right (when choosing from one team or another) 51% of the time. Even an exact 50% split that would be assumed by a coin flip (even though the chances of that happening are 200:1), he beat a coin-flip less than once a week on average. And he has the advantage of injury reports, match-ups that are shoe-ins (Colts vs. the Browns, a coin flip would get that wrong 50% of the time whereas any moron with a brain would get that right AT LEAST 90% of the time)
So, now, he picked the Boys fourth in the league and he's smart??? Yeah right dude. You only wish it was so because he ranked the Boys so high. Another thread has the Boys doing bad and he's a moron.
And superpunk, semantics are the last recourse of a defeated debate. You completely missed the point and instead, chose to point out a small verbal snafu. Good job...
firehawk350;1621005 said:Wow, hostile, you are amazingly behind. That's the freaking point! There was no thought process behind the monkey's picks. The point was that not anything about football is better then listening to pete prisco...