Prisco Ranks Cowboys Number 4 in NFL; Tops in NFC

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I find it funny that a Commander troll has made the most posts in this thread ....

who is in who's head already?

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firehawk350;1620885 said:
A power poll is the same thing as a power ranking. I've heard the two terms used interchangeably. Either way, it's funny that the guy ranking your team as best in the NFC is the same one who got outsmarted by a monkey...


He clearly is stupid and doesn't know what he's talking about. I mean, how can anyone like what they've seen from Campbell this preseason?

And Washington at 22? Most would say more around 27th.
 

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firehawk350;1620885 said:
A power poll is the same thing as a power ranking. I've heard the two terms used interchangeably. Either way, it's funny that the guy ranking your team as best in the NFC is the same one who got outsmarted by a monkey...
You act like this is some sort of demerit to Prisco, but after looking at the article, it's not. The "coin flipping monkey" actually had an extremely good record in picking games. He had a better record than every single "expert" they matched him too. This is a pretty odd occurrence. I'm not a mathematician, but I think that if it was completely random, the monkey would have been at about .500. In fact, he was not. Not counting ties (or whatever the 3rd number is) the monkey's record was .543. That'd pretty far off from what you'd expect.

So basically, when you put up an "expert" against a "coin-flipping monkey" and the monkey's results represent what should be a statistical anomaly, the monkey can win. If the monkey's results were more in line with probability, Prisco would have beat him quite handily.
 

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theogt;1620908 said:
You act like this is some sort of demerit to Prisco, but after looking at the article, it's not. The "coin flipping monkey" actually had an extremely good record in picking games. He had a better record than every single "expert" they matched him too. This is a pretty odd occurrence. I'm not a mathematician, but I think that if it was completely random, the monkey would have been at about .500. In fact, he was not. Not counting ties (or whatever the 3rd number is) the monkey's record was .543. That'd pretty far off from what you'd expect.

So basically, when you put up an "expert" against a "coin-flipping monkey" and the monkey's results represent what should be a statistical anomaly, the monkey can win. If the monkey's results were more in line with probability, Prisco would have beat him quite handily.

Yeah... but how do you account for him picking the Skins at 22? Even a monkey would know that's too high.
 

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i just hope the browns stay at that last spot all year round, GO BOYS!!
 

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superpunk;1620896 said:
All polls are rankings, not all rankings are polls.
You just tied firehawk's brain in about 25 knots.

AsthmaField;1620910 said:
Yeah... but how do you account for him picking the Skins at 22? Even a monkey would know that's too high.
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theogt;1620908 said:
You act like this is some sort of demerit to Prisco, but after looking at the article, it's not. The "coin flipping monkey" actually had an extremely good record in picking games. He had a better record than every single "expert" they matched him too. This is a pretty odd occurrence. I'm not a mathematician, but I think that if it was completely random, the monkey would have been at about .500. In fact, he was not. Not counting ties (or whatever the 3rd number is) the monkey's record was .543. That'd pretty far off from what you'd expect.

So basically, when you put up an "expert" against a "coin-flipping monkey" and the monkey's results represent what should be a statistical anomaly, the monkey can win. If the monkey's results were more in line with probability, Prisco would have beat him quite handily.

:bow:
 

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Let's consult the "Magic 8 Ball"...

"Is Pete Prisco correct in his Cowboys assessment?"

Magic 8 Ball Says:

"Maybe"

so there you go, Pete "Maybe" correct, according to the Magic 8 Ball.

Tune in Friday, where the infamous Magic 8 Ball will predict the Cowboys/Giants Sunday night game

:D
 

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Hostile;1620901 said:
I don't know if I should be amazed that you believe the monkey had reasoning and thoughts behind his actions rather than random luck and coincidence or not.

I really don't.
Look, its a bird... No, it's a plane... No, it's the point going WAY over your head. The idea was that in predicting football, your just as likely to be correct choosing some random method as opposed to listening to sports prognosticators. Wow, I can't believe that completely flew over your head.

Besides, even looking at it, Prisco had a 128-119-5 record picking games. Which means he's right (when choosing from one team or another) 51% of the time. Even an exact 50% split that would be assumed by a coin flip (even though the chances of that happening are 200:1), he beat a coin-flip less than once a week on average. And he has the advantage of injury reports, match-ups that are shoe-ins (Colts vs. the Browns, a coin flip would get that wrong 50% of the time whereas any moron with a brain would get that right AT LEAST 90% of the time)

So, now, he picked the Boys fourth in the league and he's smart??? Yeah right dude. You only wish it was so because he ranked the Boys so high. Another thread has the Boys doing bad and he's a moron.

And superpunk, semantics are the last recourse of a defeated debate. You completely missed the point and instead, chose to point out a small verbal snafu. Good job...
 

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Yeah, picking only 51% of the games right when that's your JOB is a demerit. It's a freakin' 50-50 chance to begin with, and he was right just 1% of the time more than a simple 50% split. But I forgot, since he ranked the Boys so high, he HAS to know what he's doing.

I wonder how easy it would be do my job. "sir, the test for the new communications system was" *flips coin* "successful". Well he's right half the time...
 

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Hostile;1620901 said:
I don't know if I should be amazed that you believe the monkey had reasoning and thoughts behind his actions rather than random luck and coincidence or not.

I really don't.
Wow, hostile, you are amazingly behind. That's the freaking point! There was no thought process behind the monkey's picks. The point was that not anything about football is better then listening to pete prisco...
 

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:lmao2:

Firehawk seems quite bothered by this ranking. That is a little funny. Anyone who tries to predict things in the NFL knows how difficult it is. All I can say is I hope that if things go well for the boys this year, Firehawk comes back to eat a little crow.
 

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firehawk350;1620990 said:
Look, its a bird... No, it's a plane... No, it's the point going WAY over your head. The idea was that in predicting football, your just as likely to be correct choosing some random method as opposed to listening to sports prognosticators. Wow, I can't believe that completely flew over your head.

Besides, even looking at it, Prisco had a 128-119-5 record picking games. Which means he's right (when choosing from one team or another) 51% of the time. Even an exact 50% split that would be assumed by a coin flip (even though the chances of that happening are 200:1), he beat a coin-flip less than once a week on average. And he has the advantage of injury reports, match-ups that are shoe-ins (Colts vs. the Browns, a coin flip would get that wrong 50% of the time whereas any moron with a brain would get that right AT LEAST 90% of the time)

So, now, he picked the Boys fourth in the league and he's smart??? Yeah right dude. You only wish it was so because he ranked the Boys so high. Another thread has the Boys doing bad and he's a moron.

And superpunk, semantics are the last recourse of a defeated debate. You completely missed the point and instead, chose to point out a small verbal snafu. Good job...
I went back and got all of your posts in this thread to prove you just lied about the intent of your point was to show that predicting football was the point.

firehawk350;1620846 said:
Is this the same Pete Prisco that got out-picked (for the games) in the 05 season by a coin-flippin' monkey?

http://www.chff.net/Article.php?Page=643

yup, it appears so. I'm going to consult my three year for a more accurate power poll now, later!
If your intent was to show that predicting football is an inexact science then why did you bring up a coin flipping monkey? No, your point was that Prisco is not smart, and him having us as the 4th best team is folly. Your post here has nothing to do with what you now claim.

Proof in the pudding with your 2nd post clairfying the last line with your next post.

firehawk350;1620878 said:
Sorry, three year old...
The 3 year old you are going to consult as opposed to Prisco. Meaning he is smarter than Prisco. I'd ask how he fared against the coin flipping monkey but you might take that the wrong way.

The point being it was a slam at Prisco, not at the inexact science of football prognostication as you now claim.

firehawk350;1620885 said:
A power poll is the same thing as a power ranking. I've heard the two terms used interchangeably. Either way, it's funny that the guy ranking your team as best in the NFC is the same one who got outsmarted by a monkey...
Finally, the proof of your attempted deviation here is in the bolded words. You are clearly saying he was "outsmarted" not that there was anything random about it.

So no, nothing went over my head. Especially not your attempt at spin control. I miss nothing.

Ever...
 

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Chocolate Lab;1620965 said:
You just tied firehawk's brain in about 25 knots.

Nonsense.

Even I can't tie knots without rope.

firehawk350;1620990 said:
And superpunk, semantics are the last recourse of a defeated debate. You completely missed the point and instead, chose to point out a small verbal snafu. Good job...

I wasn't debating anything with you to begin the thread.

I simply told you that Prisco's ranking is not a poll.

You told me

A power poll is the same thing as a power ranking.
So, you initiated a debate on whether a poll is the same thing as a ranking. It was never about Prisco's rankings with me. You began the semantics debate - you were just horribly incorrect. And that is the point - which I did not miss.
 

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Unless Glenn, Newman, Ellis and Burnett can all come back healthy and productive, I just don't see us being the 4th best team in the league
 

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firehawk350;1620990 said:
Look, its a bird... No, it's a plane... No, it's the point going WAY over your head. The idea was that in predicting football, your just as likely to be correct choosing some random method as opposed to listening to sports prognosticators. Wow, I can't believe that completely flew over your head.

Besides, even looking at it, Prisco had a 128-119-5 record picking games. Which means he's right (when choosing from one team or another) 51% of the time. Even an exact 50% split that would be assumed by a coin flip (even though the chances of that happening are 200:1), he beat a coin-flip less than once a week on average. And he has the advantage of injury reports, match-ups that are shoe-ins (Colts vs. the Browns, a coin flip would get that wrong 50% of the time whereas any moron with a brain would get that right AT LEAST 90% of the time)

So, now, he picked the Boys fourth in the league and he's smart??? Yeah right dude. You only wish it was so because he ranked the Boys so high. Another thread has the Boys doing bad and he's a moron.

And superpunk, semantics are the last recourse of a defeated debate. You completely missed the point and instead, chose to point out a small verbal snafu. Good job...
Wow. I don't even know where to start on this post. I guess I should start with blaming the public school system.
 

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firehawk350;1621005 said:
Wow, hostile, you are amazingly behind. That's the freaking point! There was no thought process behind the monkey's picks. The point was that not anything about football is better then listening to pete prisco...
:lmao2:

This again contradicts your last post responding to the same thing.

Read that line in bold real close. You are trying to say that Pete Prisco is not worth listening to, which would negate the supposed point of the previous thread that it was about the inexact science and was in reality a dig at Prisco as I asserted.

Furthermore if you read it closely you'll notice that you are in fact saying "nothing in football is better than listening to Pete Prisco." Go ahead, look at it. "Not anything about football is better."

If you like Prisco so much why are you dissin' him?
 

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First off, where are the Monkey's results from the 2006 season? Did he not fare as well last year or did they not try it again to rule out statistical anomolies?

Second, the only person arguing Prisco's ranking credibility is you; I wonder why.

We know he is a hack and an idiot, the only thing we are commenting on is the fact that a known Cowboy hater is picking us as the class of the NFC East. We don't care whether he is right or not because that's why you play the games; what we care about is the fact that despite the pains he must be feeling, he is admitting that the Cowboys on paper look very strong compared to the other teams.

It's like when a Commander fan comes out and admits that they had a horrible offseason and their team is outclassed by the Dallas Cowboys. It happens once in a blue moon, so when it does it makes first page news.
 
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