Projected BCS standings? OU # 1 per ESPN

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How in the world can one of the computer rankings have Missouri at 28th..?!? That's not a typo. The computer average for Mizzou is #6. One computer has them at #2. But Richard Billingsley has them at #28, behind 3-3 Oregon State.

I don't care how tough Oregon State's schedule is, 6-0 is better than 3-3.
 

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Rogah;3635262 said:
How in the world can one of the computer rankings have Missouri at 28th..?!? That's not a typo. The computer average for Mizzou is #6. One computer has them at #2. But Richard Billingsley has them at #28, behind 3-3 Oregon State.

I don't care how tough Oregon State's schedule is, 6-0 is better than 3-3.


Truth !
 

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Jack-Reacher;3632739 said:
Please... Take off your we got our ***** kicked by BSU and it still hurts hat. The Big least is a joke, BSU would run that conference with ease. The only thing you got right in your rambling was the last two words... it was crazy.
I agree - the Big East is a total joke. It is a travesty that the Big East gets an automatic qualifier and the Mountain West doesn't.
 

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switzersflask;3634982 said:
Because you dont' play anyone.

You beat OU. Awesome. Good thing we didnt' come in that game awake or you would've lost by 50 because the first would be just like the last half. You got slapped around like a bunch of little girls once we woke up.

Va Tech sucks. Oregon State sucks. Boise State is an average team living it up, waiting for that one big dog to come shut you down once and for all. IT's sad you had to play TCU last season. Had it been Florida, everyone would be back in "BSU is JUCO" mode.

Enjoy your run while you have it. You're gonna meet a big boy someday and that big dude isn't gonna play you like you're a high school team. They'll take you seriously and smash you back where you belong.

You are a joke to CFB and you deserve NOTHING but a BCS bowl bid IF you DO NOT lose one single game. Good luck with that NC argument because obviously it's never gonna happen unless the big boys lose first.
Recent history simply does not support what you are saying here. Boise State beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl (and please spare me the "OU wasn't trying" routine - it was a great game and BSU won it fair and square). They beat Oregon last year, a team which finished 11th. They beat TCU, who finished 6th.

There can be legitimate criticism that BSU doesn't have tough opponents week in and week out like if they were in the Big XII or the SEC. And yeah, maybe they would lose a few if they had Alabama's or Oklahoma's schedule. But fact is they have risen to the occasion in several instances against ranked opponents.
 

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Recent history simply does not support what you are saying here. Boise State beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl (and please spare me the "OU wasn't trying" routine - it was a great game and BSU won it fair and square). They beat Oregon last year, a team which finished 11th. They beat TCU, who finished 6th.

There can be legitimate criticism that BSU doesn't have tough opponents week in and week out like if they were in the Big XII or the SEC. And yeah, maybe they would lose a few if they had Alabama's or Oklahoma's schedule. But fact is they have risen to the occasion in several instances against ranked opponents.

I'll give you that. I still don't think they got OU's best shot, but that's irrelevant because anytime you put up a better score than Oklahoma in a BCS football game, then you must be doing something right.

It's just the simple fact that Oklahoma is the toughest game they've played since they've got on top. Of course, OU is what got them to the top. OU could have easily shut it up before it ever happened, and I think we can all agree that had Oklahoma played full force and did in the first what they did in the second, then we might not even be talking about BSU today.

BSU has played TCU a few times. They beat OU. They beat Oregon last season (First game). There's something else to talk about. Oregon got slapped early in the season. Something tells me that Boise didn't exactly get Oregon's best shot either. It was Chip Kelly's first game as head coach, and they just hadn't found an identity. The Ducks recovered well last season.

Ok back to BSU's "tough" opponents. For one, we're not really supposed to be going off of what has happened in the past, but I think that is the only argument BSU has. They have gone undefeated for several seasons, beat OU, beat Oregon, beat TCU, beat Virginia Tech, and beat Oregon State all in the span of about 4 years. Those 4 seasons and those foes are about as tough as one season in the Big XII.

I wish OU could play toledo and Wyoming every week and slip in a decent Virginia Tech team, or Oregon State just so I can say I beat a BCS conference football team. Granted, BSU was kinda counting on Va Tech to be a BCS contending football program. BSU also knows that their best shot at beating a team like Va Tech is early, early in the season. Like they did with Oregon for their first game of '09.

Had the MWAC or whatever stayed together with BYU, Utah, TCU, and the addition of Boise... Man, I think that's a new AQ BCS conference, but it's not. BYU is gone. Utah is gone. Did TCU leave as well? Not sure about them.

As I've said earlier, enjoy it while it lasts Boise State. You better hope to the good one above that you face TCU in the BCS and not Oklahoma, or Alabama. You can bet your bottom dollar that Oklahoma hasn't forgotten your flukish win and I'm sure we'll be glad to put you in your place so that you know your JUCO rule in the FBS.
 

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Rogah;3635286 said:
I agree - the Big East is a total joke. It is a travesty that the Big East gets an automatic qualifier and the Mountain West doesn't.

I've never been a fan of the Big East getting the Automatic bid either. It's still a better conference than the ones in question.
 

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switzersflask;3635378 said:
I'll give you that. I still don't think they got OU's best shot, but that's irrelevant because anytime you put up a better score than Oklahoma in a BCS football game, then you must be doing something right.

It's just the simple fact that Oklahoma is the toughest game they've played since they've got on top. Of course, OU is what got them to the top. OU could have easily shut it up before it ever happened, and I think we can all agree that had Oklahoma played full force and did in the first what they did in the second, then we might not even be talking about BSU today.
If you want to call OU their toughest game since becoming a national power, I won't argue that statement. But you seem not to realize that they won that game. I mean, if OU is their toughest game and they lose 44-6, then you have a point. You claim "well if OU did A, B and C then they would have won easily." But they didn't do A, B and C and they lost the game, fair and square.
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BSU has played TCU a few times. They beat OU. They beat Oregon last season (First game). There's something else to talk about. Oregon got slapped early in the season. Something tells me that Boise didn't exactly get Oregon's best shot either. It was Chip Kelly's first game as head coach, and they just hadn't found an identity. The Ducks recovered well last season.
Ok back to BSU's "tough" opponents. For one, we're not really supposed to be going off of what has happened in the past, but I think that is the only argument BSU has. They have gone undefeated for several seasons, beat OU, beat Oregon, beat TCU, beat Virginia Tech, and beat Oregon State all in the span of about 4 years. Those 4 seasons and those foes are about as tough as one season in the Big XII.

I wish OU could play toledo and Wyoming every week and slip in a decent Virginia Tech team, or Oregon State just so I can say I beat a BCS conference football team. Granted, BSU was kinda counting on Va Tech to be a BCS contending football program. BSU also knows that their best shot at beating a team like Va Tech is early, early in the season. Like they did with Oregon for their first game of '09.

Had the MWAC or whatever stayed together with BYU, Utah, TCU, and the addition of Boise... Man, I think that's a new AQ BCS conference, but it's not. BYU is gone. Utah is gone. Did TCU leave as well? Not sure about them.

As I've said earlier, enjoy it while it lasts Boise State. You better hope to the good one above that you face TCU in the BCS and not Oklahoma, or Alabama. You can bet your bottom dollar that Oklahoma hasn't forgotten your flukish win and I'm sure we'll be glad to put you in your place so that you know your JUCO rule in the FBS.
With all due respect, IMHO you're over-rationalizing. They beat OU but you say it "wasn't OU's best shot." They beat Oregon but that too "wasn't Oregon's best shot." Actually it might have been Oregon's best shot because they were at full strength in that game. They lost their top RB, LeGarrette Blount, following that game because he cold cocked a BSU player.

You say they would lose if they ever played the major programs, but when I say they've beaten major programs, you call those "fluke wins". There comes a point where you just have to step back, look at the results on the field, and tip your cap to them.
 

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Rogah;3636120 said:
If you want to call OU their toughest game since becoming a national power, I won't argue that statement. But you seem not to realize that they won that game. I mean, if OU is their toughest game and they lose 44-6, then you have a point. You claim "well if OU did A, B and C then they would have won easily." But they didn't do A, B and C and they lost the game, fair and square.
With all due respect, IMHO you're over-rationalizing. They beat OU but you say it "wasn't OU's best shot." They beat Oregon but that too "wasn't Oregon's best shot." Actually it might have been Oregon's best shot because they were at full strength in that game. They lost their top RB, LeGarrette Blount, following that game because he cold cocked a BSU player.

You say they would lose if they ever played the major programs, but when I say they've beaten major programs, you call those "fluke wins". There comes a point where you just have to step back, look at the results on the field, and tip your cap to them.

You do have to tip your cap to them. At the same time you can be realistic and evaluate their wins with a fine tooth comb. They tend to face their toughest games with plenty of time to prepare. They usually have weeks to get ready for a bowl game or the opening game of the season. That is when they have faced the tough out of conference games.

How would they do if they played two big games in a row like some teams do in the tougher conferences? Or what if they faced their tough out of conference game in the 2nd or 3rd week of the season instead of the opening game. I think those are reasonable questions.

They may do well at it, too. We don't know for sure either way because we don't get to see it because of the conference they are in.
 

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Rogah;3636120 said:
If you want to call OU their toughest game since becoming a national power, I won't argue that statement. But you seem not to realize that they won that game. I mean, if OU is their toughest game and they lose 44-6, then you have a point. You claim "well if OU did A, B and C then they would have won easily." But they didn't do A, B and C and they lost the game, fair and square.
With all due respect, IMHO you're over-rationalizing. They beat OU but you say it "wasn't OU's best shot." They beat Oregon but that too "wasn't Oregon's best shot." Actually it might have been Oregon's best shot because they were at full strength in that game. They lost their top RB, LeGarrette Blount, following that game because he cold cocked a BSU player.

You say they would lose if they ever played the major programs, but when I say they've beaten major programs, you call those "fluke wins". There comes a point where you just have to step back, look at the results on the field, and tip your cap to them.

I give them full credit for their victories. A lot of people watch the games more than once. We come to conclusions as to how this or that happened.

When it all comes down to it, the final score is the only thing that matters. I am not disagreeing with you.

I remember watching the BSU/Va. Tech ballgame earlier and hearing all the talk about how this was two world powers going heads up. I thought it was hilarious. What I saw was a battle between a Va. Tech team that really just wasn't that good, and BSU took advantage. Boise was held in check for quite some time in that game. They did what they do best, jumped out in front. We saw that Va Tech wasn't really all that great because they went on to lose to a middle school.

Oregon State. Ehh... I guess. I'll give Boise one thing. They would be a great middle of the pack team in the Pac Ten. They are better than teams like Oregon State, or Texas aTm in the Big XII. Hard to say that because that's on the Aggies. They pull in three times the classes Boise State gets, yet they still suck. Hard to figure that out.

Boise would not be a national title contender if they were in a conference where they had to play tougher teams on a weekly basis. Anyone arguing that is just in denial.

They are one of those teams that will give you their best shot every time around. They're not a team you want to see if you're a team playing for the NC. I'm talking about if they were in a BCS conference. Boise would be that speed bump every single year for OU, But they'd also throw out 3 or 4, maybe 5 losses a year.

I'm looking at OU's schedule right now and I would be willing to bet that if BSU played this schedule, they'd have possibly 2 losses at this point, and would finish with 4 or 5.

If they played our schedule, Florida St. would be that "I told you so" game and Boise would win. Not nearly as handily as Oklahoma, but they'd win.

They then go on to defeat Air Force, and maybe Cincy. I'll hesitantly give them the win, on the road against the Bearcats.

Texas beats BSU.

BSU beats Iowa State

Ouch. Loss to Missouri in Columbia, Missouri.

BSU beats Colorado. It would be a tough game for Boise at this point of the season after already playing FSU, **, Cincy, Texas, and Iowa State.

ooo Do they slip up against aTm in College Station? It's a possibility, and I say Boise losses. Had this game been earlier in the season, Boise beats up on them, but College Station is no place for a beaten Boise who's just gone through a grueling schedule as it is.

They lose to Texas Tech as well. The season is becoming unbearable for them.

They beat Baylor, but it could be tough if Robert Griffin is still healthy.

And I hate to say it, but Oklahoma State beats them in Stillwater.

Wow, in this game of fun hypothetical situations, I have Boise losing 5 I believe.

Tough schedule mean no soup for you Mr. Bronco!!

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joseephuss;3636381 said:
You do have to tip your cap to them. At the same time you can be realistic and evaluate their wins with a fine tooth comb. They tend to face their toughest games with plenty of time to prepare. They usually have weeks to get ready for a bowl game or the opening game of the season. That is when they have faced the tough out of conference games.

How would they do if they played two big games in a row like some teams do in the tougher conferences? Or what if they faced their tough out of conference game in the 2nd or 3rd week of the season instead of the opening game. I think those are reasonable questions.

They may do well at it, too. We don't know for sure either way because we don't get to see it because of the conference they are in.

It took me probably 30 posts to make the point you are making so easily. lol
 

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If BSU is really that easy to beat, and they would have 5 losses in your scenario then why wouldn't OU schedule them? Seriously why do they have such a problem doing their OOC scheduling?

Could they beat better schools back to back, That is a legitimate question, but I think it is foolish one, BSU is a well prepared team and quite possibly the best coached team in all of FBS. That is my opinion but I don't see any other coach taking these 2 and 3 star recruits and doing what Coach Pete has done.

Oregon had just as much time to prepare for BSU as BSU did, and they were pissed that BSU had beat them in their house the year before. Blount was running his mouth all week before the game about how many yards he was going to have and BSU stepped up, but it gets ignored because BSU had all summer to prepare and it meant nothing to Oregon. I call BS. Ask any Oregon fan what they think of BSU. That game was a HUGE revenge game for them and BSU answered that call.

Saying that OU is responsible for BSU being on the map is asinine. OU happened to be in the game against them. Maybe the fact that they have gone 50-4 since that year had a little something to do with it. I would love to see a OU-BSU rematch this year. Since they squeaked by the Bearcats, and made USU look good, I like the Bronco's chances against OU once again. If they meet again would they get OU's full attention this time? Or would OU need another wake up call at halftime?
 

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Jack-Reacher;3636858 said:
If BSU is really that easy to beat, and they would have 5 losses in your scenario then why wouldn't OU schedule them? Seriously why do they have such a problem doing their OOC scheduling?

Could they beat better schools back to back, That is a legitimate question, but I think it is foolish one, BSU is a well prepared team and quite possibly the best coached team in all of FBS. That is my opinion but I don't see any other coach taking these 2 and 3 star recruits and doing what Coach Pete has done.

Oregon had just as much time to prepare for BSU as BSU did, and they were pissed that BSU had beat them in their house the year before. Blount was running his mouth all week before the game about how many yards he was going to have and BSU stepped up, but it gets ignored because BSU had all summer to prepare and it meant nothing to Oregon. I call BS. Ask any Oregon fan what they think of BSU. That game was a HUGE revenge game for them and BSU answered that call.

Saying that OU is responsible for BSU being on the map is asinine. OU happened to be in the game against them. Maybe the fact that they have gone 50-4 since that year had a little something to do with it. I would love to see a OU-BSU rematch this year. Since they squeaked by the Bearcats, and made USU look good, I like the Bronco's chances against OU once again. If they meet again would they get OU's full attention this time? Or would OU need another wake up call at halftime?


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"We are fully aware of the powerhouse that is Boise State."

"Our only hope is to hide from them in hopes that they may finally contact a more talented university to schedule a game with."

"The evil Smurf Nation known as Boise State is an unstoppable force that cannot be controlled. We only hope for containment."

"We underestimated the constant impressive list of football powerhouses in the WAC that Boise State has manhandled over the years."

"It is obvious to our program that we absolutely cannot compete w/ this phenominal football program known as BSU year and and year out. Could we hope for more than $500k in potatoes for a rematch?"

"Why anyone would show up to play these giants of the college ranks, is beyond me................................. and my pay grade."

"Bless Boise State and the carnage they create each and every week of football."

"Shlomalongadingdong n stuffs"

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Dallas;3636907 said:
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"We are fully aware of the powerhouse that is Boise State."

"Our only hope is to hide from them in hopes that they may finally contact a more talented university to schedule a game with."

"The evil Smurf Nation known as Boise State is an unstoppable force that cannot be controlled. We only hope for containment."

"We underestimated the constant impressive list of football powerhouses in the WAC that Boise State has manhandled over the years."

"It is obvious to our program that we absolutely cannot compete w/ this phenominal football program known as BSU year and and year out. Could we hope for more than $500k in potatoes for a rematch?"

"Why anyone would show up to play these giants of the college ranks, is beyond me................................. and my pay grade."

"Bless Boise State and the carnage they create each and every week of football."

"Shlomalongadingdong n stuffs"

"Boomer"

Still not able to answer one question I pose though huh. More rhetoric with no substance. I bow to your message board prowess.
 

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Jack-Reacher;3636858 said:
If BSU is really that easy to beat, and they would have 5 losses in your scenario then why wouldn't OU schedule them? Seriously why do they have such a problem doing their OOC scheduling?

Could they beat better schools back to back, That is a legitimate question, but I think it is foolish one, BSU is a well prepared team and quite possibly the best coached team in all of FBS. That is my opinion but I don't see any other coach taking these 2 and 3 star recruits and doing what Coach Pete has done.

Oregon had just as much time to prepare for BSU as BSU did, and they were pissed that BSU had beat them in their house the year before. Blount was running his mouth all week before the game about how many yards he was going to have and BSU stepped up, but it gets ignored because BSU had all summer to prepare and it meant nothing to Oregon. I call BS. Ask any Oregon fan what they think of BSU. That game was a HUGE revenge game for them and BSU answered that call.

Saying that OU is responsible for BSU being on the map is asinine. OU happened to be in the game against them. Maybe the fact that they have gone 50-4 since that year had a little something to do with it. I would love to see a OU-BSU rematch this year. Since they squeaked by the Bearcats, and made USU look good, I like the Bronco's chances against OU once again. If they meet again would they get OU's full attention this time? Or would OU need another wake up call at halftime?

From what I'm hearing, BSU posed a 2-1 series with BCS ballclubs. That means they expect a team that has established themselves over the past 5 decades as powerhouses must bow down to BSU and play two games in Boise, and one at home.

Who in the damn world wants to goto Boise twice and play only one home game? Especially when you are only gonna get about 35k in the stadium.

BSU posed that scenario so they could say, "Nobody will play us!" Of course nobody is gonna agree to a 2-1 series with you. You aren't even worthy of a home and home series, but powers might take you up on just an average home and home series. Go look into it. BSU is playing games because they know their run is coming to an end.

Go ask Dan Hawkins, aka the founding father of Boise Crap football, what it's like to coach in the Big XII.
 

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Again, 2-1, go look it up. Perhaps a Notre Dame, or an Oklahoma, or an Alabama has the right to demand a 2-1 series, but Boise State?

I can't believe this. You turds think you have been on the scene since the dust bowl era, and you want to offer a 2-1 which is something only the best do to the worst of D2 clubs? lol

Again, 2-1. That means you offered the big boys a chance to play on your smurfturf twice, and their home field once. You did that on purpose so you could say you were turned down. Congratulations. You had us all fooled because we thought the big boys turned down a simple home and away series. Nope. It's just that nobody thinks you DESERVE to throw your weight around and demand that you get a 2-1 series.

NO RESPECT!
 

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switzersflask;3637162 said:
Again, 2-1, go look it up. Perhaps a Notre Dame, or an Oklahoma, or an Alabama has the right to demand a 2-1 series, but Boise State?

I can't believe this. You turds think you have been on the scene since the dust bowl era, and you want to offer a 2-1 which is something only the best do to the worst of D2 clubs? lol

Again, 2-1. That means you offered the big boys a chance to play on your smurfturf twice, and their home field once. You did that on purpose so you could say you were turned down. Congratulations. You had us all fooled because we thought the big boys turned down a simple home and away series. Nope. It's just that nobody thinks you DESERVE to throw your weight around and demand that you get a 2-1 series.

NO RESPECT!

Check your facts.. Nebraska insisted on the 2-1. BSU asked for 1-1 and would have agreed to the 2-1 except that the Huskers wanted the 2-1 with no travel. They signed Idaho instead at 2-1 with 900k travel. BSU offered 0-1 with no travel to the ENTIRE top 25 this year when Utah canceled their games to go the Pac -10, no takers. That offer is still standing. Ol Miss filled their hole next year.

Nice try, but perhaps you should actually get the facts before you post about powerhouse this and powerhouse that. Maybe the "Powerhouses" should quit living in the past.

Nice condescending post though. You seem to be good at that.
 

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There’s been some bold talk this week out of the Boise State camp of supporters. Nobody in a big-boy conference will play Boise. You think that you can beat the Broncos? Give them a call. We dare you.


Nebraska called. Nebraska tried.

In the past year, NU tried to put together a series with BSU; two-for-one, home-and-home, one-way trip to Lincoln. Whatever. It ended up fizzling out.

Why?

Because, according to NU Assistant Athletic Director Jeff Jamrog, Boise wanted a minimum $1 million to play in Lincoln.

Geez, no wonder the Broncos can’t get anyone to play them. Pay Boise State $1 million to come to your town? Sorry, don’t want it that bad.



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I might balk at a school demanding my school pay them a million to come play me at my house too.

That really isn't "backing down" now is it, Jack?

Does anyone know the normal amount of money schools get for coming to play?

What did Oregon pay BSU? Anyone know?
 

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switzersflask;3637145 said:
From what I'm hearing, BSU posed a 2-1 series with BCS ballclubs. That means they expect a team that has established themselves over the past 5 decades as powerhouses must bow down to BSU and play two games in Boise, and one at home.

Who in the damn world wants to goto Boise twice and play only one home game? Especially when you are only gonna get about 35k in the stadium.
What is your source for that? I haven't heard any such thing and would be very interested in where you got the info. I certainly would lose respect for BSU if it's true.
 

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Dallas;3637218 said:
http://omaha.com/article/20100908/SPORTS/709089803/0



There’s been some bold talk this week out of the Boise State camp of supporters. Nobody in a big-boy conference will play Boise. You think that you can beat the Broncos? Give them a call. We dare you.


Nebraska called. Nebraska tried.

In the past year, NU tried to put together a series with BSU; two-for-one, home-and-home, one-way trip to Lincoln. Whatever. It ended up fizzling out.

Why?

Because, according to NU Assistant Athletic Director Jeff Jamrog, Boise wanted a minimum $1 million to play in Lincoln.

Geez, no wonder the Broncos can’t get anyone to play them. Pay Boise State $1 million to come to your town? Sorry, don’t want it that bad.



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I might balk at a school demanding my school pay them a million to come play me at my house too.

That really isn't "backing down" now is it, Jack?

Does anyone know the normal amount of money schools get for coming to play?

What did Oregon pay BSU? Anyone know?
2 things:

1) According to Boise State, they wanted $1 million because Nebraska was insisting on a 2-for-1 (with 2 in Lincoln, 1 at BSU). I cannot find a link to back that up so you'll have to take my word.

2) I saw a lot of outrage over the alleged $1 million price tag, but $1 million is really not all that terribly far out of what is typically paid. Nebraska paid the Idaho Vandals $800,000 - I think the extra $200k to upgrade from the Vandals to the Broncos would be worth it. Notre Dame paid WMU $800k. Alabama paid San Jose State $900,000. So if those low level programs get that much money, I don't see anything unreasonable for BSU asking for a cool million.

http://www.magicvalley.com/sports/college/idaho/article_55ca73e8-f3d2-582f-99f0-213212e2d8bc.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2010/09/20/story4.html?b=1284955200%255E3956361

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2009/10/western_michigan_football_to_p_1.html
 

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joseephuss;3636381 said:
You do have to tip your cap to them. At the same time you can be realistic and evaluate their wins with a fine tooth comb. They tend to face their toughest games with plenty of time to prepare. They usually have weeks to get ready for a bowl game or the opening game of the season. That is when they have faced the tough out of conference games.
Well, ok, but why do you seem to think that benefits BSU? I mean, Oregon had just as much time to prepare for BSU as BSU did for Oregon. Same thing with the bowl games.
joseephuss;3636381 said:
How would they do if they played two big games in a row like some teams do in the tougher conferences? Or what if they faced their tough out of conference game in the 2nd or 3rd week of the season instead of the opening game. I think those are reasonable questions.
Absolutely those are reasonable questions. But when it comes to detrmining rankings and ratings, we have to go with what we know. We can't speculate on what might happen if this, if that, etc...

Personally I think it is an outrage that a team can go undefeated and not play for a championship. That's if we're talking about TCU, BSU, Hawaii or even Auburn about 5 years ago. It runs completely contrary to everything we enjoy about competitive sports.
 
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