Pulling the trigger

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is a ridiculous take.

Any team taking on Dak in a trade gets a QB that isn’t even a top ten paid QB in 2024.

Yeah there are plenty of young teams starved for good qb play. Falcons come to mind. Pittsburgh. Broncos.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Belichick’s window is small. He’s 72 years old, and he wants Shula’s record more than he wants another Super Bowl win. With the rest of their roster, Dak can get him that record in the next two seasons. They can manipulate their Cap space to extend Dak, and the Cowboys take the hit this year for his past bonuses. I would ask for their #1&2 picks in 2024, and another #2 pick in 2025. Then trade Trey Lance to the Vikings for the #11 pick.

Then the Cowboys can trade the #8, #11 and #56 pick to Chicago, and keep the #24 and #43 pick in 2024, plus have two #2 picks in the 2025 draft.

Time to start again for the Cowboys.

This would also likely mean that McCarthy gets dumped, and the Cowboys start over with a new coaching staff. If they can get Jim Harbaugh to come to Dallas, and give him a clean slate, he just might go for that.

I would also consider trading Micah Parsons if someone wants to back up the draft pick Brinks truck. If the Cowboys make the commitment to rebuild, might as well go all in. Jerry did it before when he traded away Herschel Walker. Why not do it again?

ok big question, does Harbaugh, to you, seem like a coach who would work under Jerry's "Conditions"? not even going to question all the pick trading that would be hard enough to pull off.

 

[KingCorcoran]

This is a ridiculous take.

Any team taking on Dak in a trade gets a QB that isn’t even a top ten paid QB in 2024.

How high a draft pick do you think the Cowboys could get for him? Top 10, top 20, top 30 1st rounder? Or, like, a second round pick, or third? What do you think it would take to entice Jerry to trade him?

 

[Jumbo075]

How high a draft pick do you think the Cowboys could get for him? Top 10, top 20, top 30 1st rounder? Or, like, a second round pick, or third? What do you think it would take to entice Jerry to trade him?

Dak is an All-Pro QB. You could get a king’s ransom for him. That’s just the truth.

 

[jay94]

Dak is an All-Pro QB. You could get a king’s ransom for him. That’s just the truth.

Doesn't he have a no trade clause?

 

[KingCorcoran]

Dak is an All-Pro QB. You could get a king’s ransom for him. That’s just the truth.

What if Jerry Jones agrees with you? Are you suggesting Jerry should give Prescott “a king’s ransom” to be Dallas’ QB. He’s either worth a king’s ransom or he isn’t.

 

[Sydla]

How high a draft pick do you think the Cowboys could get for him? Top 10, top 20, top 30 1st rounder? Or, like, a second round pick, or third? What do you think it would take to entice Jerry to trade him?

I think a Top 10 pick is likely out of the question. Wentz got a 3rd rounder and a first rounder the next year and that was after he had already been benched. So I would think Dak would command more. But likely not the haul the Seahawks got which was two first rounders, two second rounders and a couple of players.

 

[Jumbo075]

Doesn't he have a no trade clause?

He can waive it. He WILL waive it if the Cowboys make it clear they won’t extend him, and another team offers him Joe Burrow money - which is exactly what another team would offer.

The salary Cap hit for another team in 2024 for Dak is $34M which includes a $29M salary and $5M roster bonus. The salary Cap hit for the Cowboys after trading him would be $27,915,000. If the Cowboys trade him after he gets his roster bonus, they’d be on the hook for $32,915,000. Whatever the rookie QB Cap hit would be, the overall hit for the QB position would still be less expensive than keeping Dak.

The risk is rolling snake eyes on whichever QB the Cowboys might pick in the draft, just like Carolina did this year when they picked Blake Young over CJ Stroud.

 

[Jumbo075]

I think a Top 10 pick is likely out of the question. Wentz got a 3rd rounder and a first rounder the next year and that was after he had already been benched. So I would think Dak would command more. But likely not the haul the Seahawks got which was two first rounders, two second rounders and a couple of players.

If you trade with Atlanta, you get the #8 pick in this year’s draft plus other draft picks. Or you can trade him straight up to the Bears for the #1 pick AND Justin Fields. I guarantee the Bears would take that deal in a heartbeat.

 

[Sydla]

Yeah there are plenty of young teams starved for good qb play. Falcons come to mind. Pittsburgh. Broncos.

I was simply addressing his point that we'd have to throw in a high pick to get someone to take on his salary.

That's a silly take because any team that acquires him in a trade would only owe him $29 million in base salary (and maybe $5 million in a roster bonus if we traded him before the bonus kicks in). $34MM cap hit (and cash paid) wouldn't even be Top 10 for QBs in 2024.

His contract would likely not be an issue for any team acquiring him. And getting him an extension would be easier as well as they wouldn't have to work around all the future cap hits we'd have to deal with in the form of prorated bonuses, the restructures and the dummy years.

 

[Sydla]

If you trade with Atlanta, you get the #8 pick in this year’s draft plus other draft picks.

There is little chance Atlanta is trading the 8th pick for Dak.

Put that out of your mind.

 

[MikeyJones214]

People are missing the obvious.

McCarthy can pull a Jason Garrett and get rid of Dak and buy himself some time with a young QB

Think about it, McCarthy strength is QB development and Jerry likes his yes men.

I'm surprised McCarthy hasn't gone to Jerry asking for his chance to pick his own guy.

McCarthy has more skins than Dak.
More longevity too.

The simple answer if I'm Jerry is to keep McCarthy and let him choose his QB would satisfy everyone but the Dak apologists and gives the chance to be like the 49ers or young Russell Wilson led Seahawks.

 

[KingCorcoran]

People are missing the obvious.

McCarthy can pull a Jason Garrett and get rid of Dak and buy himself some time with a young QB

Think about it, McCarthy strength is QB development and Jerry likes his yes men.

I'm surprised McCarthy hasn't gone to Jerry asking for his chance to pick his own guy.

McCarthy has more skins than Dak.
More longevity too.

The simple answer if I'm Jerry is to keep McCarthy and let him choose his QB would satisfy everyone but the Dak apologists and gives the chance to be like the 49ers or young Russell Wilson led Seahawks.

So the owner that traded a draft choice for an unproven quarterback without consulting his head coach is the kind of owner that would trade away an all-pro quarterback so as to allow his head coach to chose his own quarterback. The Cowboys are based in Texas, not Disneyland where this kind of fantasy belongs.

 

[MikeyJones214]

So the owner that traded a draft choice for an unproven quarterback without consulting his head coach is the kind of owner that would trade away an all-pro quarterback so as to allow his head coach to chose his own quarterback. The Cowboys are based in Texas, not Disneyland where this kind of fantasy belongs.

I'm just saying that if I was McCarthy, that would be my pitch.

And it's not unreasonable.

Jerry likes McCarthy. If given the choice, I think Jerry would rather work with McCarthy than Bellichik or Harbaugh.

This move would give Jerry a chance to appease the fans and buy them both more time.

Before you say that Jerry is old and wants to win now, remember, there is a higher probability of winning a SB with a QB making peanuts than an older guy making top dollar.

The blueprint is there .

Draft a guy you like and build the team around him while on a rookie contract.

 

[Sydla]

If you trade with Atlanta, you get the #8 pick in this year’s draft plus other draft picks. Or you can trade him straight up to the Bears for the #1 pick AND Justin Fields. I guarantee the Bears would take that deal in a heartbeat.

Now I know you are just trolling here.

 

[conner01]

So you expect the Cowboys with the 24th pick in the first round to trade up into the top 10 draft picks to get a QB to compete with Trey Lance?

If there was a viable option to move on from Dak I’d say go for it. But I don’t see that option. It won’t come from trading Dak since he has a no trade clause and every team knows that. Realistically letting him play out is an option that may be best but somewhere we need cap space added because we don’t have any. We are already over next year and have few guys you could move on from that adds cap space

 

[kskboys]

But why would the Falcons pay Dak all that money when they could just take a QB at 8 themselves?

Dak is proven.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There is little chance Atlanta is trading the 8th pick for Dak.

Put that out of your mind.

Yeah I can see maybe next years first but not number 8.

 

[Diehardblues]

Very well thought out . And if we were anyone but the Jethro Jone$ Cowboys I’d consider it a reasonable solution.

But our owner doesn’t want to start over. He has a relative and interesting product which he can hype and sell the hell out of .

My hunch is if he does decide to make a bold change it will be nothing more than HC but after 3 straight 12 win seasons he has memories of firing Gailey after consecutive playoff appearances which he regrets.

And why with MM with only one year remaining will place more of an ultimatum on it. And with Dak on his final season possibly let it play out but his popularity may extend his time.

Ultimately as disappointing the ending was Jethro still sees this as a much more marketable scenario than starting over and the unknown.

As always his over hype still needs a scapegoat when it doesn’t meet expectations. But with Quinn probably leaving for a new HC offering and MM closeness with his Star QB it could be more asst coaches getting the axe.

I would agree with the players probably released or not resigned . Again well thought out.

 

[Diehardblues]

Can someone provide the argument Jethro is willing to start over giving up his first consecutive 12 win team this era for the unknown ?