QB Carter calls getting cut by Alouettes 'a joke'

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QB Carter calls getting cut by Alouettes 'a joke'

Herb Zurkowsky, Montreal Gazette; Thursday, May 25, 2006
ST. JEAN, Que. - Less than a week into training camp, quarterback Quincy Carter is out of the Montreal Alouettes' picture. And Carter, who played in the National Football League with the Dallas Cowboys and the New York Jets, wonders whether he was ever in it.

"This is a joke ... an insult," Carter said Wednesday afternoon, hours after the Canadian Football League team announced his release. "I was throwing all over the field, from either hashmark, with ease. And we were practicing in (an indoor facility), so I couldn't throw as deep as I wanted."

Carter signed with the Alouettes in early April and was attempting to make a comeback after a year away from the game. He had been released by the Cowboys shortly after the start of camp in 2004 after failing a drug test, only to subsequently sign with the Jets. He claimed in an interview last week to being drug-free for close to two years.

Training camp lasts only three weeks, consisting of two exhibition games, so the coaching staff relies heavily on practice performance. Quarterbacks in particular are charted extensively on their passes and reads to see if they understand the concepts of the Als' offence.

Head coach Don Matthews said Carter's release was performance related. "Someone had to go. He was the obvious choice. He had the lowest grades."

Carter, predictably, challenged that assessment. He also claimed he had several conversations behind closed doors with general manager Jim Popp, during which he was told he'd back up starter Anthony Calvillo.

The GM denied Carter's statement.

"All players have to earn their spot," Popp said. "I've never promised players anything. That's not my style. Other than that, I'm not going to get into a he-said, she-said debate. This was strictly performance related."

Carter's release leaves the Als with four quarterbacks -- Calvillo, Nealon Greene, Marcus Brady and CFL rookie Scott McBrien. Greene played under Matthews at Toronto and Edmonton.

At Winnipeg, the Blue Bombers signed import kickers Brian Claybourn (Western Kentucky) and Kirk Yliniemi (Oregon State), filling a void created when Duncan O'Mahony didn't show up at training camp over the weekend.

© The Edmonton Journal 2006
 
dmq said:
Carter, predictably, challenged that assessment. He also claimed he had several conversations behind closed doors with general manager Jim Popp, during which he was told he'd back up starter Anthony Calvillo.

The GM denied Carter's statement.

"All players have to earn their spot," Popp said. "I've never promised players anything. That's not my style. Other than that, I'm not going to get into a he-said, she-said debate. This was strictly performance related."
When is Crankcase going to learn this habit of his is undermining him and directly related to why teams give up on him? It's football, not drama class kid.
 
HERB ZURKOWSKY, The Gazette
Published: Thursday, May 25, 2006
Less than a week into training camp, quarterback Quincy Carter is out of the Alouettes' picture. And Carter, who played in the NFL with Dallas and the New York Jets, wonders whether he was ever in it.

"This is a joke ... an insult," Carter told The Gazette yesterday afternoon, hours after the Als announced his release. "I was throwing all over the field, from either hashmark, with ease. And we were practising in (an indoor facility), so I couldn't throw as deep as I wanted."

Carter, who was on Montreal's negotiation list, signed with the Als in early April and was attempting to make a comeback after a year away from the game. Training camp lasts only three weeks, consisting of two exhibition games, so the coaching staff relies heavily on practice performance. Quarterbacks in particular are charted extensively on their passes and reads to see if they understand the concepts of the Als' offence.

Head coach Don Matthews said Carter's release was performance-related. "Someone had to go. He was the obvious choice. He had the lowest grades."

Carter, predictably, challenged that assessment.

"It was clear to anybody at practice, even my teammates," he said. "You know where my talent was, even after a year off. I don't know what to say."

Carter claimed he had several conversations behind closed doors with general manager Jim Popp, during which he was told he'd back up starter Anthony Calvillo. The GM, advised of Carter's statement, denied the statement.

"All players have to earn their spot," Popp said. "I've never promised players anything. That's not my style. Other than that, I'm not going to get into a he-said, she-said debate.

"This was strictly performance-related."

Popp and his assistant, Marcel Desjardins, spent most of Tuesday afternoon and evening attempting unsuccessfully to trade Carter, calling every CFL team. When they failed, Carter said he asked for his release.

Most players who have been cut by a team usually fly home immediately, but Carter remained in Montreal yesterday, hopeful of being claimed by another club. This early in camp, that appears unlikely, although Carter is close friends with Calgary receiver Jermaine Copeland, a former Alouette.

No CFL team contacted by The Gazette expressed any interest in Carter. One club official even alleged that Carter has a serious marijuana problem. Carter was released by the Cowboys shortly after the start of camp in 2004 after failing a drug test, only to subsequently sign with the Jets. He claimed in an interview last week to being drug-free for close to two years.

Carter's release leaves the Als with four quarterbacks - Calvillo, Nealon Greene, Marcus Brady and CFL rookie Scott McBrien. Greene, who played under Matthews at Toronto and Edmonton, appears to have the inside track at the second-string position, although the coach said this week no decision has been made.

Greene, acquired in a trade from Saskatchewan last month, said he's not taking anything for granted.

"Nothing's etched in stone," he said. "This might be a good situation for me, but I still have to go out, understand the offence, make my reads and complete passes, just like everybody else."
Although Brady has CFL experience with Toronto and Hamilton, he's a year older than McBrien, 26, who probably earns barely more than the league minimum salary of $37,000.

"It's a numbers game," McBrien said. "There's one less (quarterback) and I'm still here. That's good news for me."

Notes - Defensive-back Greg Moss, acquired from Ottawa in the dispersal draft, made his camp debut yesterday after the birth on May 20 of his daughter, Sai, in Miami. But fellow DB Ricky Bell still hasn't reported. ... Also released yesterday were rush-end Jonathan Molock and linebacker David Simmons. New additions included LBs Louis Mackey and Russell Green.

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© The Gazette (Montreal) 2006
 
My question is, could QC be our first QB that goes back to baseball instead of coming from baseball?

From ********
A Brief History Of Quincy Carter
For those who remember, and for those who can’t forget:

• 1977: Quincy is born.
• 1996: Quincy signs a letter of intent to play football for Georgia Tech, but decided instead to play baseball. He is drafted by the Chicago Cubs.
• 1998: Realizing that life couldn’t possibly be worse than it is in the Cubs organization, Carter quits and wins the starting job at the University of Georgia.
• 1999: Has an outstanding sophomore season for the Bulldogs.
• 2000: Despite a difficult junior year, Quincy declares for the NFL Draft, where he is considered a third-or-fourth round pick.
• 2001: Jerry Jones shocks the NFL world by picking Quincy with the 22nd pick in the second round. Somehow, he ends up starting, and isn’t quite as awful as everyone thought he’d be. Nevertheless, the Cowboys still sign
noted guitar artiste Chad Hutchinson in the offseason. It is most likely this is when Carter decided drugs were a much better option than life as a Cowboy.

Get the rest of Quincy’s odd career after the jump.

• 2003: Carter, under new coach Bill Parcells, has an unexpected resurgence and leads the Cowboys to the playoffs. Some herald Jones a genius for recognizing Carter’s potential before anyone else did. They say this quickly to Jones and scramble away, lest glancing on his face turn them into stone.
• 2004: Out of nowhere, Parcells releases Carter before the season begins, saying he “could not be trusted with the leadership of the team.” Carter also fails a drug test. He ends up playing for the Jets, and isn’t half bad. He suffers a “drug relapse” during the playoffs, however, and is again kicked off his team.
• 2005: He moves to St. Louis and officially retires from the NFL.
• 2006: He accepts an offer from the CFL’s Montreal Alouettes in April. He lasted one month before QB Carter Released From Als’ Camp [TSN]
 
dmq said:
My question is, could QC be our first QB that goes back to baseball instead of coming from baseball?

From ********
A Brief History Of Quincy Carter
For those who remember, and for those who can’t forget:

• 1977: Quincy is born.
• 1996: Quincy signs a letter of intent to play football for Georgia Tech, but decided instead to play baseball. He is drafted by the Chicago Cubs.
• 1998: Realizing that life couldn’t possibly be worse than it is in the Cubs organization, Carter quits and wins the starting job at the University of Georgia.
• 1999: Has an outstanding sophomore season for the Bulldogs.
• 2000: Despite a difficult junior year, Quincy declares for the NFL Draft, where he is considered a third-or-fourth round pick.
• 2001: Jerry Jones shocks the NFL world by picking Quincy with the 22nd pick in the second round. Somehow, he ends up starting, and isn’t quite as awful as everyone thought he’d be. Nevertheless, the Cowboys still sign
noted guitar artiste Chad Hutchinson in the offseason. It is most likely this is when Carter decided drugs were a much better option than life as a Cowboy.

Get the rest of Quincy’s odd career after the jump.

• 2003: Carter, under new coach Bill Parcells, has an unexpected resurgence and leads the Cowboys to the playoffs. Some herald Jones a genius for recognizing Carter’s potential before anyone else did. They say this quickly to Jones and scramble away, lest glancing on his face turn them into stone.
• 2004: Out of nowhere, Parcells releases Carter before the season begins, saying he “could not be trusted with the leadership of the team.” Carter also fails a drug test. He ends up playing for the Jets, and isn’t half bad. He suffers a “drug relapse” during the playoffs, however, and is again kicked off his team.
• 2005: He moves to St. Louis and officially retires from the NFL.
• 2006: He accepts an offer from the CFL’s Montreal Alouettes in April. He lasted one month before QB Carter Released From Als’ Camp [TSN]

Easier said than done, Baseball is just as hard to make it on the major league level as it is making it in the NFL.
 
dmq said:
My question is, could QC be our first QB that goes back to baseball instead of coming from baseball?

From ********
A Brief History Of Quincy Carter
For those who remember, and for those who can’t forget:

• 1977: Quincy is born.
• 1996: Quincy signs a letter of intent to play football for Georgia Tech, but decided instead to play baseball. He is drafted by the Chicago Cubs.
• 1998: Realizing that life couldn’t possibly be worse than it is in the Cubs organization, Carter quits and wins the starting job at the University of Georgia.
• 1999: Has an outstanding sophomore season for the Bulldogs.
• 2000: Despite a difficult junior year, Quincy declares for the NFL Draft, where he is considered a third-or-fourth round pick.
• 2001: Jerry Jones shocks the NFL world by picking Quincy with the 22nd pick in the second round. Somehow, he ends up starting, and isn’t quite as awful as everyone thought he’d be. Nevertheless, the Cowboys still sign
noted guitar artiste Chad Hutchinson in the offseason. It is most likely this is when Carter decided drugs were a much better option than life as a Cowboy.

Get the rest of Quincy’s odd career after the jump.

• 2003: Carter, under new coach Bill Parcells, has an unexpected resurgence and leads the Cowboys to the playoffs. Some herald Jones a genius for recognizing Carter’s potential before anyone else did. They say this quickly to Jones and scramble away, lest glancing on his face turn them into stone.
• 2004: Out of nowhere, Parcells releases Carter before the season begins, saying he “could not be trusted with the leadership of the team.” Carter also fails a drug test. He ends up playing for the Jets, and isn’t half bad. He suffers a “drug relapse” during the playoffs, however, and is again kicked off his team.
• 2005: He moves to St. Louis and officially retires from the NFL.
• 2006: He accepts an offer from the CFL’s Montreal Alouettes in April. He lasted one month before QB Carter Released From Als’ Camp [TSN]

He couldn't cut it as a baseball player either.
 
Brian Jordan went from a pro bowl DB with Atlanta to a pretty respectable career as an outfielder so it's not unheard of.
 
This isn't funny any more.

It's tragic.

He really needs intensive professional help.
 
StanleySpadowski said:
Brian Jordan went from a pro bowl DB with Atlanta to a pretty respectable career as an outfielder so it's not unheard of.

True, Deion Sanders played both and had some decent success in MLB.
 
Hostile said:
When is Crankcase going to learn this habit of his is undermining him and directly related to why teams give up on him? It's football, not drama class kid.

He seriously has mental issues. He believes he is better than he is. And it isn't denial, he really believes he is elite. He really has problems.
 
StanleySpadowski said:
Brian Jordan went from a pro bowl DB with Atlanta to a pretty respectable career as an outfielder so it's not unheard of.
Jordan was already playing in the majors when he gave up football.
 
Alexander said:
He seriously has mental issues. He believes he is better than he is. And it isn't denial, he really believes he is elite. He really has problems.

I don't know if he has mental issues or not, according to him he is not bi-polar. Face it not all people with problems even self inflicted problems have mental issues other than maturity issues
 
Hostile said:
When is Crankcase going to learn this habit of his is undermining him and directly related to why teams give up on him? It's football, not drama class kid.

I don't think his failures have really been drug related... at least not this latest one. He was cut from the CFL, I think, because he had an attitude. He thought he was better than all the other guys there and he didn't just show up, roll up his sleeves and go to work. He really did want the job handed to him. The guys in charge thought that he was awfully cocky I'd bet and after watching him for a week decided that he wasn't worth the issues.

Now if you're saying he has that attutude because of drugs... then maybe so... but it was his attitude that got him released from the CFL, not ganja.

JMO, of course.
 
Doomsday101 said:
I don't know if he has mental issues or not, according to him he is not bi-polar. Face it not all people with problems even self inflicted problems have mental issues other than maturity issues

So, what are you saying? He is the QB version of Freddie Mitchell?
 

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