QB Options without Dak in 2025

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I have not moved back to outright support.

Just because I don't trash him incessantly doesn't mean I am.supporting. that is the issue with those who hate dak, it's either you trash or else you must be a supporter.

I don't see any of them as options since they will all be FA

Time for us and Dak to move on from each other. Lance is a FA. If he does well, then he will cost a lot. If he doesn't, then he is cheap but nothing more than a bridge. Rush is not the answer.
Nothing wrong with what you've said there, other than the opinion about those, YOU SEE, as trashing Dak. Im sure you see me in a 'hate Dak'/ 'trasher', when in reality my preference is a career ending long term contract, as that would give the opportunity to restructure and provide a defense which can keep Dak in a game (or for long enough that he hopefully regains that composure).
 

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I my world we would have a GM that new what the hell he was doing.
Obviously, but how would that resolve this Dak contract? You're placing blame on Jerry, when in reality, Dak's 1st performance v GB has the made the decision more difficult.

Playing 'GM Football Manager', my offers, in descending order would be:

a) Career ending 5 year contract, allowing restructuring and splitting salary, which allows restructuring into further Void Years (over a 7, 8 year period).
b) 3 year contract at $55m (ish)........but with no NTC
c) 4 year at $55M, with easily achievable incentives, but with partial NTC (comes into effect after 2 years).

I dont think Dak would accept any of the above, what would you be offering (and something close to what Dak would accept)?
 

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Nothing wrong with what you've said there, other than the opinion about those, YOU SEE, as trashing Dak. Im sure you see me in a 'hate Dak'/ 'trasher', when in reality my preference is a career ending long term contract, as that would give the opportunity to restructure and provide a defense which can keep Dak in a game (or for long enough that he hopefully regains that composure).
I don't see Jerry as a GM who can build a winning team. even if we had a rookie sensation as a QB for the next 5 years, his focus will be on Jersey sales and middle level FAs to generate hope and make more money. how do I know? 29 years of history.
 

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I don't see Jerry as a GM who can build a winning team. even if we had a rookie sensation as a QB for the next 5 years, his focus will be on Jersey sales and middle level FAs to generate hope and make more money. how do I know? 29 years of history.
Neither do I.....but that still still doesn't excuse other aspects of the contractual negotiations. Dak/France also play a part.....even yourself suggested it may be time to move on. If there's not a scenario, that benefits both, then yea move on.
 

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Neither do I.....but that still still doesn't excuse other aspects of the contractual negotiations. Dak/France also play a part.....even yourself suggested it may be time to move on. If there's not a scenario, that benefits both, then yea move on.
The players are going to ask for what they ask. Dak could have said give me 60M

Jerrybhas ultimate authority to make a call. Of course they are going to ask for higher. And Jerry come in lower and meet in the middle. That's what happens most of the time.

With that said, first go round, Stephen wasn't going to budge at all. So Dak got franchised. Stephen paid it all back with that move.
 

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Obviously, but how would that resolve this Dak contract? You're placing blame on Jerry, when in reality, Dak's 1st performance v GB has the made the decision more difficult.

Playing 'GM Football Manager', my offers, in descending order would be:

a) Career ending 5 year contract, allowing restructuring and splitting salary, which allows restructuring into further Void Years (over a 7, 8 year period).
b) 3 year contract at $55m (ish)........but with no NTC
c) 4 year at $55M, with easily achievable incentives, but with partial NTC (comes into effect after 2 years).

I dont think Dak would accept any of the above, what would you be offering (and something close to what Dak would accept)?
I believe Dak wants to experience FA.
 

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This is a fever dream.
I cannot believe this is what Athlon sports has become.

Dallas has won 36 games over the last 3 seasons, and they just described insane moves an expansion type team would make.
 

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Obviously, but how would that resolve this Dak contract? You're placing blame on Jerry, when in reality, Dak's 1st performance v GB has the made the decision more difficult.

Playing 'GM Football Manager', my offers, in descending order would be:

a) Career ending 5 year contract, allowing restructuring and splitting salary, which allows restructuring into further Void Years (over a 7, 8 year period).
b) 3 year contract at $55m (ish)........but with no NTC
c) 4 year at $55M, with easily achievable incentives, but with partial NTC (comes into effect after 2 years).

I dont think Dak would accept any of the above, what would you be offering (and something close to what Dak would accept)?
Thats built of the view this contract just messed up...they have screwed this up for years to get here.
 

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Thats built of the view this contract just messed up...they have screwed this up for years to get here.
Nobody is arguing with that. There were three red flags on that contract: the 4 year deal, when other QB's were accepting 5, the NTC and most importantly it gave France the heads up on the Jones desperation (and lack of viable options).

But we cant put the blame on how the contract was restructured without accepting that if we hadnt restructured we wouldnt of had the CAP for other areas of the roster.
 

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Nobody is arguing with that. There were three red flags on that contract: the 4 year deal, when other QB's were accepting 5, the NTC and most importantly it gave France the heads up on the Jones desperation (and lack of viable options).

But we cant put the blame on how the contract was restructured without accepting that if we hadnt restructured we wouldnt of had the CAP for other areas of the roster.
Like Gallup coming off an ACL injury. Great decision Jethro.
 
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