Quarterback Poll: Would you want Brett Favre as the starter in Dallas?

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Doomsday101 said:
Granted GB had some problems with injuries I'm not putting the entire bad season for GB on Brett but I just do not see him being a better fit in Dallas than Bledsoe and like you I see Bledsoe strenght and weakness I also see things that Brett tends to do that would drive Bill up the wall.
Oh without a doubt, he would drive him up the wall. That might be a good thing.

If Parcells is of the mind to just enjoy the game, Favre would be someone he'd love. He's a true football guy in every respect of the word and I think Bill loves that.
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
No I haven't been a cowboy fan my entire life, but I didn't become one overnight last spring when Bledsoe came here either....I'm a hardcore NFL fan in general and I'm well aware of this franchise's storied history regardless of how long I've been a fan.

I know that the bledstudsoe will never replace Aikman or Staubach as the top gunslinger of all time here, they were lifelong cowboys and have their own legacies. I just hope that more fans warm up to Drew, especially wins a world title. I'm not trying to brainwash anybody into believing otherwise, and I realize a lot of fans here are hungry for another lombardi trophy... just don't understand the massive Bledsoe hate going on and why some feel he's not going to take this team anywhere, even with all the talent added in the offseason. :confused:


Bledsoe = garbage
 

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Oh without a doubt, he would drive him up the wall. That might be a good thing.

If Parcells is of the mind to just enjoy the game, Favre would be someone he'd love. He's a true football guy in every respect of the word and I think Bill loves that.

But were not going to run the west coast and throw as much as Green Bay does. As for being a true football guy I agree but I don't see Brett style and Bills being a good match.
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
I don't agree with everything 8thday said, I have no problem admitting that favre is superior to Bledsoe in several categories (particularly TD passes, # of playoff games played, and mobility) and I've never said that Favre sucks....he has great numbers and is well on his way to canton. But it's ludicrous to say that you'd take him over Bledsoe right now. Also you are comparing his CAREER numbers to Bledsoe's as of today...Drew is far from finished....

What did you mean by 'deadguy'....please don't ban 8thday for disagreeing with you...he's just trying to make a name for himself here like i have. :(

Also how come when you quote me it says B4MVP, are you trying to avoid saying Bledsoe because you hate him so much....you don't fool me hos:D


Only a person who is blind deaf and dumb would think that Bledsoe is anywhere close to being as good as Farve. When Farve is on or he has the supporting cast, he can still carry a team. While Bledsoe has to be carried by his team and even then, he still can't get them to the playoffs as evidenced by the 2004 Bills and the 2005 Cowboys.
 

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kartr said:
Only a person who is blind deaf and dumb would think that Bledsoe is anywhere close to being as good as Farve. When Farve is on or he has the supporting cast, he can still carry a team. While Bledsoe has to be carried by his team and even then, he still can't get them to the playoffs as evidenced by the 2004 Bills and the 2005 Cowboys.

Where's your boy Carter playing these days? :laugh1:

85% of the people on this board are dumb, deaf and blind then i suppose.
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
Why worry about his age? Yes he's not fresh out of Washington State anymore, but he just turned 34...that's still very young, especially considering a lot of QB's in recent memory (elway, trent green, rich gannon, etc) have had some of their best seasons when they were supposedly well past their prime. Even Favre has put up the big numbers, at least in terms of yardage, despite not being the same guy he was 8 years ago.

I think the problem is that some people think that I'm lobbying for him to be the QB of the future, when in reality all I care about right now is the present. I know that realistically he's probably not going to be here past 2007, especially if we win a world title this year or next.

Also the whole statue thing is still blown out of proportion...sure he's not michael vick, but Bledsoe has improved dramatacially in recent years in terms of his pocket play. He's still not likely a threat to take a naked bootleg 80 yard for a TD (but then again this is Bledsoe were talking about :bow: ) , but when protected he's the best in the business in terms of sheer passing abilities.

Speaking of the oline I was very dissapointed last season, but then again nobody planned for flozell going down either. I will admit I'm still very concerned going into 2006, but you have to believe that fabini and flozell will return to form, and that Marco Rivera will bounce back as well. My only real concern is at center, but free agency isn't over yet and we still have the draft.

In terms of years, no, he's not that old, but he's taken a lot of punishment because he's so easy to sack and there's not a team in the league that's not happy to see him on their schedule. Defenses like qb's who are easy to sack. With Bledsoe, you always have to qualify, if he's protected, if he's given time to throw, if you outlaw the pass rush, if you outlaw corner backs,etc. Bledsoe has the same options as other qb's, move around to avoid the sack, throw to an alternate receiver or throw the ball away to avoid the sack and he does neither. He continues to make too many poor reads and poor throws, even when he has time, that's why people here don't have faith in him. Plus, other teams who have spent number one picks on him have discarded him in favor of lesser experienced qb's because they just don't believe Drew can get it done anymore, so it's not just haters here that don't believe in him. I don't hate him either, but I believe his presence here is delaying our being able to develop a true qb of the future, when it's questionable if Drew is even a qb of the past.
 

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kartr said:
In terms of years, no, he's not that old, but he's taken a lot of punishment because he's so easy to sack and there's not a team in the league that's not happy to see him on their schedule. Defenses like qb's who are easy to sack. With Bledsoe, you always have to qualify, if he's protected, if he's given time to throw, if you outlaw the pass rush, if you outlaw corner backs,etc. Bledsoe has the same options as other qb's, move around to avoid the sack, throw to an alternate receiver or throw the ball away to avoid the sack and he does neither. He continues to make too many poor reads and poor throws, even when he has time, that's why people here don't have faith in him. Plus, other teams who have spent number one picks on him have discarded him in favor of lesser experienced qb's because they just don't believe Drew can get it done anymore, so it's not just haters here that don't believe in him. I don't hate him either, but I believe his presence here is delaying our being able to develop a true qb of the future, when it's questionable if Drew is even a qb of the past.

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Doomsday101 said:
Granted GB had some problems with injuries I'm not putting the entire bad season for GB on Brett but I just do not see him being a better fit in Dallas than Bledsoe and like you I see Bledsoe strenght and weakness I also see things that Brett tends to do that would drive Bill up the wall.

I think the reall difference is this. If you give Bledsoe all the pieces, he'll still stand out as the weakess link and Farve, with all his warts can produce greatness every now and then while Bledsoe can be decent, every now and then. All you have to do is look what Farve did to us in 2004 when the Packers were just a mediocre team and how enemic Bledsoe looked against us in 2003 and how the only teams the Bills dominated in 2004 pick in the top ten every year, you know Cleveland, Arizona, SF,etc. I would take McNair and all his injuries over Bledsoe right now. His qb rating was almost identical to Bledsoes' last year, yet he played on a terrible team. Our team was decent as evidenced by our play against the Giants,Broncos and Seahawks, yet we lost 3 out of 4 to those teams and Bledsoe played poorly in all of them. He also struggled against the 9'ers, Raiders,Rams and Lions, yet none of those teams made the playoffs. I don't see much to cheer about with a qb who struggles with both good and bad teams. Who did we dominate last year, other than the Eagles who had a nightmarish year overall? Oh, I forgot, the hapless Cardinals.
 

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kartr said:
Only a person who is blind deaf and dumb would think that Bledsoe is anywhere close to being as good as Farve. When Farve is on or he has the supporting cast, he can still carry a team. While Bledsoe has to be carried by his team and even then, he still can't get them to the playoffs as evidenced by the 2004 Bills and the 2005 Cowboys.

Where do you come up with this stuff? Both QBs can carry a team ( both are tied at 33 comeback wins ). We all know Favre was awesome in his prime and we know he throws alot of TDs ( 8 seasons of 30+ TDs I think ) and alot of INTs ( 5 seasons of 20+ ). I am not really sure you watched any Dallas games last year as Drew carried the Cowboys for the most part.

Favre is going through the same thing that Bledsoe did with the Bills but with worse results so far.

Right now Bledsoe is the better QB and most people agree here considering how lopsided the poll is.
 

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Slyster said:
Where do you come up with this stuff? Both QBs can carry a team ( both are tied at 33 comeback wins ). We all know Favre was awesome in his prime and we know he throws alot of TDs ( 8 seasons of 30+ TDs I think ) and alot of INTs ( 5 seasons of 20+ ). I am not really sure you watched any Dallas games last year as Drew carried the Cowboys for the most part.

Favre is going through the same thing that Bledsoe did with the Bills but with worse results so far.

Right now Bledsoe is the better QB and most people agree here considering how lopsided the poll is.
The poll is worded in such a way as to render it lopsided before anyone starts to vote.

What's so hard about that? I didn't even bother to vote because it is basically invalid to begin with.
 

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Hostile said:
The poll is worded in such a way as to render it lopsided before anyone starts to vote.

What's so hard about that? I didn't even bother to vote because it is basically invalid to begin with.

Nice try, but no...the question clearly asks...'would you like brett favre as the starter in dallas?'....no mention of bledsoe, but yes it's implied.

85% of this board does not want Favre here......this tells me that bledsoe is significantly better and it's absurb to suggest otherwise.
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
Nice try, but no...the question clearly asks...'would you like brett favre as the starter in dallas?'....no mention of bledsoe, but yes it's implied.

85% of this board does not want Favre here......this tells me that bledsoe is significantly better and it's absurb to suggest otherwise.

Exactly. The poll asks a simple question and from the results I would say the majority on this message board consider Bledsoe a better option at this point because if they didnt I am sure the results would be different.
 

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Bledsoe4MVP said:
Nice try, but no...the question clearly asks...'would you like brett favre as the starter in dallas?'....no mention of bledsoe, but yes it's implied.

85% of this board does not want Favre here......this tells me that bledsoe is significantly better and it's absurb to suggest otherwise.
Wrong again punching bag.

First of all the the poll does not mention Bledsoe so assuming that the 85% who vote no means they want him is invalid.

Do you get it yet?

The poll was already slanted to achieve the vote it did. Failure to see that simply means you can't read.
 

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Slyster said:
Exactly. The poll asks a simple question and from the results I would say the majority on this message board consider Bledsoe a better option at this point because if they didnt I am sure the results would be different.
How can you consider that, since Bledsoe is not an option in the poll?

The poll is not complete.
 

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Hostile said:
How can you consider that, since Bledsoe is not an option in the poll?

The poll is not complete.

Its very simple.

" Would you want Brett Favre as the starter in Dallas? "

Now ofcourse you look at who you got at QB before you answer the question. I garuantee you that if Dallas had someone like Ryan Leaf or Jay Fiedler as a QB then the poll would be slanted towards Favre.

Simple. Simple. Simple.
 

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Its very simple.

" Would you want Brett Favre as the starter in Dallas? "

Now ofcourse you look at who you got at QB before you answer the question. I garuantee you that if Dallas had someone like Ryan Leaf or Jay Fiedler as a QB then the poll would be slanted towards Favre.

Simple. Simple. Simple.

Seems pretty cut and dry to me as well.....Bledsoe is the man, Favre is finished. :cool:
 

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Hostile said:
Wrong again punching bag.

First of all the the poll does not mention Bledsoe so assuming that the 85% who vote no means they want him is invalid.

Do you get it yet?

The poll was already slanted to achieve the vote it did. Failure to see that simply means you can't read.

You can abuse me til the cows come home, but the fact of the matter is 85% of dallas wants Bledsoe as the starter....pretty surprising, I even admit considering the amount of Bledsoe hate going on at times.

Just admit you voted against Favre coming here and we can let it go.....:p:
 
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