Question for those that wanted Parcells gone

superpunk;1348656 said:
I don't know if you noticed, but our problems weren't exactly on the side of the ball Norv would be helping us with. So what would his purpose be? Coming here to bring a defensive guy with him? Who would that be?

We scored one offensive TD in the playoff game.

We had more than one problem.
 
WV Cowboy;1348685 said:
We scored one TD in the playoff game.

We had more than one problem.

And we held Indy to 14 points, went through a 3 week stretch where we only allowed 34 points.

I'm not a big fan of singularities molding decisions.

By and large, the problems, and reasons for failure were defensive. The fact that they came up bigger in the playoff game when Romo spit the bit doesn't change my mind.
 
superpunk;1348695 said:
And we held Indy to 14 points, went through a 3 week stretch where we only allowed 34 points.

I'm not a big fan of singularities molding decisions.

By and large, the problems, and reasons for failure were defensive. The fact that they came up bigger in the playoff game when Romo spit the bit doesn't change my mind.

In December, that's true.
 
OK...tone down some of the things here guys.

Just to make sure you get the picture I am closing this thread for a few minutes.
 
Gregg Easterbrook (TMQ):

In Parcells' Defense, At Least This Time He Waited Till the Season Was Over to Quit -- New England Fans Will Get That Bill "Mr. Personality" Parcells waited three weeks after the Dallas season ended to quit on the Cowboys. When Parcells quit on the Giants in 1991 he waited three months after the team's Super Bowl win to announce his departure. In each case, Parcells did not inform his employers of his plans until after the desirable coaches on the market already had been hired by someone else. In April 1991, desperate for a coach, Jersey/A turned to the underwhelming Ray Handley. Right now the Cowboys, with February approaching and desperate for a coach, are thought to be gravitating toward Norv Turner, who's a nice guy but who is also still on the market because his career record is 59-83-1 (including playoffs). Parcells is no Hamlet figure who can't make up his mind -- there is zero evidence of that in his other behavior. Yet twice he has waited until well into the offseason to walk out on an employer. What's likely going on here is that Parcells wanted the Giants, and now the Cowboys, to have trouble finding someone to replace him. For a coach, business executive or government official with a runaway ego, the ideal outcome is that after he leaves a post, the organization goes downhill -- causing people to say, "Oh, if only Mr. Runaway Ego hadn't left!" At the Giants, Handley inherited a team that had just won the Super Bowl, and went 14-18 in the next two seasons. This caused people to say that Parcells must be a super-ultra genius, since the guy who replaced him did so poorly. Surely Parcells is hoping the Cowboys have a terrible season in 2007, causing people to proclaim they were better off with Parcells.
 
You know, bb, if there's any truth to the idea that Parcells was really trying anything like that, Wade Phillips would throw a monkey wrench in it. We wouldn't miss a beat, and there's a good chance we'd be even better.
 
bbgun;1350480 said:
New England Fans Will Get That Bill "Mr. Personality" Parcells waited three weeks after the Dallas season ended to quit on the Cowboys.
Per his contract, a decision had to be made by Feb. 1st. Even if he had waited to quit Thursday, we would not have missed out on any HC possibilities.
 
Chocolate Lab;1350494 said:
You know, bb, if there's any truth to the idea that Parcells was really trying anything like that, Wade Phillips would throw a monkey wrench in it. We wouldn't miss a beat, and there's a good chance we'd be even better.

I like our chances with Wade...but also like our chances with Norv or a number of other people

I think this teams been VERY poorly coached for three seasons now in just about all areas...we were routinely beaten before we ever took the field IMO, because the other teams (especially the good ones) were all better prepared

I've said several times now...if we stay healthy we'll win 10-12 games next yr

David
 
dbair1967;1350521 said:
I think this teams been VERY poorly coached for three seasons now in just about all areas...we were routinely beaten before we ever took the field IMO, because the other teams (especially the good ones) were all better prepared
:bow: :bow: :bow:
 
dbair1967;1350521 said:
I like our chances with Wade...but also like our chances with Norv or a number of other people

I think this teams been VERY poorly coached for three seasons now in just about all areas...we were routinely beaten before we ever took the field IMO, because the other teams (especially the good ones) were all better prepared

Yes, because Norv did a helluva job preparing his Commanders teams, right?
 
dbair1967;1350521 said:
I like our chances with Wade...but also like our chances with Norv or a number of other people

I think this teams been VERY poorly coached for three seasons now in just about all areas...we were routinely beaten before we ever took the field IMO, because the other teams (especially the good ones) were all better prepared

I've said several times now...if we stay healthy we'll win 10-12 games next yr

David

brother thats on the players not on bill, and really I am beginning to think not on zimm. If they played the way there were coached then they woulda won. To be honest guys in the NFL shoudn't need motivation thet are making damned good money to play a child's game they screw that up its on them not the coaches that probably did nothing but tell them the right thing.
the more I think about it an NFL coach shouldn't have to motivate a player to do jack, players are well paid and living their dream, why in the hell would they underacheive?!?!?
 
I'm glad Parcells was fired for all of the bad moves he made here and failing to deliver. He is probably the most overrated coach in the history of this league. His stupid looks he gave players didn't intimidate anybody.
 
stealth;1350567 said:
brother thats on the players not on bill, and really I am beginning to think not on zimm. If they played the way there were coached then they woulda won. To be honest guys in the NFL shoudn't need motivation thet are making damned good money to play a child's game they screw that up its on them not the coaches that probably did nothing but tell them the right thing.
the more I think about it an NFL coach shouldn't have to motivate a player to do jack, players are well paid and living their dream, why in the hell would they underacheive?!?!?


Let me run it by you one more time.
The way a team plays is a direct reflection of how it is coached.
 
Artie Lange;1350589 said:
Let me run it by you one more time.
The way a team plays is a direct reflection of how it is coached.

Some people just can't seem to understand that. BP was a failure here. If you use the logic of the guy you responded to then we should have cut all the players and retained BP because they were not following his perfectly crafted game plans.
 
CanadianCowboysFan;1347373 said:
Are you still glad he retired given who our next HC might be?
I'll let you know when I find out who the next HC WILL be. But one of three things can happen now that Parcells is gone:

1) We get better and win some playoff games and hopefully the Superbowl.

2) We go in the crapper and at least get some good draft picks out of it.

3) We continue to plod along with the same mediocrity that we have come to know (and some seem to love) with Parcells.
 
cml750;1350636 said:
Some people just can't seem to understand that. BP was a failure here. If you use the logic of the guy you responded to then we should have cut all the players and retained BP because they were not following his perfectly crafted game plans.

True.
 
smarta5150;1347389 said:
As I said a few times...

I am a little disappointed if Norv comes in but I am not so POed as most.

I believed we needed change and ANYONE cant do much worse than whats been going on for 11 years now.

I am hoping for the best no matter who comes to town.

Change was needed and it is coming.

Yeah, that makes sense. Replace one of the best coaches in the history of the game with a guy who failed at both previous stints and struggles to get above .400 lifetime. All for the sake of change. :rolleyes:
 
cml750;1350636 said:
Some people just can't seem to understand that. BP was a failure here. If you use the logic of the guy you responded to then we should have cut all the players and retained BP because they were not following his perfectly crafted game plans.

Some people just can't seem to understand that we were the worst franchise in the league before Parcells took over. His ultimate goal might have been a Super Bowl, as it is with EVERY coach, even though one team gets to win it all each year, but his first goal was to rebuild this franchise. We went from time card punching laughing stock to Thanksgiving NFC Super Bowl favorites. Mission accomplished.
 

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