Question for those that wanted Parcells gone

[JPM]

Absolutely. Does not matter, Turner, or Phillips is better then old, stubborn, no adjusting Parcells.

Thank god Parcells is gone, now to work on el dorado.

For me it's not about who is the head coach it's that Jerry pretty much made up his mind as soon as Bill left who he wanted. He hasn't interviewed Ryan or Rivera and unfortunately it looks like he is only interviewing Singletary to satisfy the Rooney Rule.

 

[superpunk]

For me it's not about who is the head coach it's that Jerry pretty much made up his mind as soon as Bill left who he wanted. He hasn't interviewed Ryan or Rivera and unfortunately it looks like he is only interviewing Singletary to satisfy the Rooney Rule.

Yet - there's still hope. It's faint, but I ain't giving up til after the super bowl.

 

[Juke99]

Ah, the favorite crutch of the anti-Parcells crowd - using blurbs of his own quotes to damn him. When did I say I was satisfied with his record? When did I even imply that? The answer? I never did, so you can drop that ridiculous line of thinking and debating. You're not addressing anything. I wish the record had been better, hence the MOST that appeared prominently in my statement that I got MOST of what I expected out of Parcells. (Hint: MOST = Not all.)

I hope I get none of what I expect out of Norv Turner, should he be hired.

Sometimes I'm in the mood for Heath Bar Crunch....and Caramel Cone is killer.

Yep.

 

[superpunk]

Sometimes I'm in the mood for Heath Bar Crunch....and Caramel Cone is killer.

You are what your waistline says you are.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Sometimes I'm in the mood for Heath Bar Crunch....and Caramel Cone is killer.

Yep.

Just go get a can of ensure you cranky old fart.

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[CounterTrey]

Just a clarification here and then I'll go back to watching you guys abuse each other.

Michael Westbrook and Heath Shuler weren't picked for Turner and forced on him, they were his coveted picks that he was the driving force behind. He was so excited about Shuler in fact (Shuler was taken over Casserly's choice Dilfer at Norv's urging) that he told the press that he'd stake his career and reputation on it.

Furthermore it's a complete myth that he had talent voided teams in Washington. The ONE year he did anything in 1999 he had a record setting scoring offense who broke the league record(only to see the Rams break it further) his teams still choked in amazingly embarassing fashion. Game after game after game they snatched defeat from the jaws of Victory.

So save yourselves some grief and don't buy into the notion that Turner was hamstrung with talent in DC. Nothing could be furhter from the truth. If this was true he'd get cut a LOT more slack than he is. the reason his tenure was so maddening for Skins fans is BECAUSE his teams were so talented and underachieving.

 

[Juke99]

You are what your waistline says you are.

Damn...I gotta eat more ice cream then.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Just a clarification here and then I'll go back to watching you guys abuse each other.

Michael Westbrook and Heath Shuler weren't picked for Turner and forced on him, they were his coveted picks that he was the driving force behind. He was so excited about Shuler in fact (Shuler was taken over Casserly's choice Dilfer at Norv's urging) that he told the press that he'd stake his career and reputation on it.

Furthermore it's a complete myth that he had talent voided teams in Washington. The ONE year he did anything in 1999 he had a record setting scoring offense who broke the league record(only to see the Rams break it further) his teams still choked in amazingly embarassing fashion. Game after game after game they snatched defeat from the jaws of Victory.

So save yourselves some grief and don't buy into the notion that Turner was hamstrung with talent in DC. Nothing could be furhter from the truth. If this was true he'd get cut a LOT more slack than he is. the reason his tenure was so maddening for Skins fans is BECAUSE his teams were so talented and underachieving.

more evidence against Turner

the evidence for is pretty thin guys, esp. when you remove baseless conjecture

 

[Juke99]

Just go get a can of ensure you cranky old fart.

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Yeah...I'll do that when you get a frozen possum/squirrel pot pie dinner.

 

[superpunk]

And the #1 reason not to hire Norv Turner

I'm sick of agreeing with Commanders fans. I feel like I'm one of the dirty dozen on here. (dirty dozen, of course, being a reference to a gonhorrea post)

Shame.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

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Yeah...I'll do that when you get a frozen possum/squirrel pot pie dinner.

I have told you and told you...I don't mess with those possums (or is it opossum). And I don't have the patience for squirrel hunting.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

play a couple of BIll Parcells' press conferences from '91 w/ the Giants

Juke will be OK

 

[VA Cowboy]

For me it's not about who is the head coach it's that Jerry pretty much made up his mind as soon as Bill left who he wanted. He hasn't interviewed Ryan or Rivera and unfortunately it looks like he is only interviewing Singletary to satisfy the Rooney Rule.

Yeah. He wanted a familiar yes man. I'm sure he's had a list made for a couple of years anticipating BP leaving and Norv has most likely been at the very top of it the whole time.

 

[LatinMind]

more evidence against Turner

the evidence for is pretty thin guys, esp. when you remove baseless conjecture

wade phillips QB rob johnson. lol

 

[Bob Sacamano]

wade phillips QB rob johnson. lol

we have Tony Romo

c'mon, no positives yet? spin cycle not working?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

wade phillips QB rob johnson. lol

Wade Phillips was never said to be a QB groomer.

So...bad point by you.

 

[LatinMind]

Wade Phillips was never said to be a QB groomer.

So...bad point by you.

and norv has never been a defense guy, so its basically proving a point. he'll get a defensive guy and thats that.

 

[superpunk]

and norv has never been a defense guy, so its basically proving a point. he'll get a defensive guy and thats that.

I don't know if you noticed, but our problems weren't exactly on the side of the ball Norv would be helping us with. So what would his purpose be? Coming here to bring a defensive guy with him? Who would that be?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

and norv has never been a defense guy, so its basically proving a point. he'll get a defensive guy and thats that.

The only point I see is he has failed to have a winning record as a HC in two previous attempts.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

and norv has never been a defense guy, so its basically proving a point. he'll get a defensive guy and thats that.

that's my point, we have problems on D, Turner has never assembled a D staff that's produced good Ds