Quincy Carter story Monday on NFL Network

[Jay-D]

Quincy Carter is a dead horse that just keeps coming back like a zombie horse no matter how many times you beat him to death.

The problem with that is you can lead a zombie horse to water, but zombie horses don't drink.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Quincy Carter is a dead horse that just keeps coming back like a zombie horse no matter how many times you beat him to death.

The problem with that is you can lead a zombie horse to water, but zombie horses don't drink.

BRAAAAAAAIIIIINNNNSSSS

 

[Hostile]

Keep Hope Alive!!!! I haven't changed IMHO.......the only thing that has changed is OUR opinions don't agree or align as much as they used to.....So I am not suprised you'd want me gone because you know I've got a "flair" and I have thought "provoking post". You don't want this poster around ripping/ challenging your opinions..........maybe

Oh please. I welcome the challenges. My objection is to your painting me as a racist. You can take that BS and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. When called on it you don't even have the sack to deny it or apologize for the misconception. Know why? There was none. That is exactly what you tried to accuse me of and it is complete and utter BS. I would prefer to never read that crap again.

oooooooh I am shaking in my boots. Get a grip Hostile. That is your opinion.

Am I supposed to assume that if I take an opinion different that yours or any other poster it equates to "crap stirring".

I can't believe someone as smart as you are needs to have this explained to you. The "crap stirring" is the celebration of the attention these threads receive like it's some kind of badge of honor for YOU. Shut the hell up already.

Of course you haven't given up on Henson. I wouldn't either if I had seen the "IT". I never saw "IT".

I knew he wouldn't make "IT" onto the 2006 roster even before training camp started. Remember losing that BET Hostile?. That prediction would be within the 5 year window that you stated I've been wrong!!!

Oh look, Chucky wants to call this a feather in his cap. How cute.

Does taking a spanking equate to being wrong about some of my opinions?

If so, then let me be the 1st to tell you that I take my spankings like a man.

I've been wrong several times. Infact I consistently own up to them, but I can't seem to remember getting any spankings from you.

Consider this a call out Hostile? List atleast one spanking I've received from you.

It's real easy to say it, but please prove it...........I mean I think some folks (maybe the "most crew") would like to know what you are talking about.

This is hilarious. Dude, you are in such denial. Why do you suppose you take shots at me in these QB threads even if I'm not involved? The constant mentions of "QB gurus," "It factor," "pedigree," "sig pictures," etc. You and I both know those are all references to me. Why deny it?

How about your failed attempts to read my mind and interpret what my thoughts were? Remember the whole I was "seeking improvement" and Carter improved, therefore I should be "satisfied" stuff? How about where you constantly have tried to paint me as Hutch guy, and can't get it done? How about the racist accusations?

You're constantly wrong. Everyone is used to it. The only problem is, you can't own up to it.

Ever heard of ANALOGY? I used the Meriweather conversation between as an example of how YOU and I can have differing opinions about a player, situation or topic.

Every heard of nonsense? You used it because you wrongly think it proves your analysis of me. It doesn't.

In the Brandon Meriweather thread YEA or NAY prior to the draft I posted a "choir boy crew" smirk in reference to the posters who were against drafting Meriweather. You quickly replied with the "he's our thug crew" smirk.

What are you insinuating???? A little homework or less ignorance of the Meriweather situation would immediately halt any reference of THUG when discussing Meriweather. I think the Patriots (the ultimate charater team) 1st RD pick justifyied my opinion and Scott Pioli's excellent track record squashed any worries you might have had about Meriweather......

I have no idea what this blather is about and frankly it doesn't interest me in the least. Congratulations on Scott Pioli justifying something that in your mind is a big freaking deal.

I guess.

I repeat, I didn't want him, we didn't get him, Anthony was our pick all along. How his going to the Patriots is relevant, I have no idea, but again congrats.

Hostile:" I didn't want him (Meriweather) to be a Cowboy"

Why? The most successful team in the NFL this side of our Dynasty thinks he's worth it.

Then go be a Patriots fan. I have no idea what you find so funny about this Charles. It isn't even interesting. I wouldn't care if he was the overall #1 pick. I didn't want him, and we didn't take him. It's really just that simple. Unless we had taken him I don't see what you think you have to thump your chest about.

So you stick to your gospel (mediot draft grades) and I'll stick to mine, the same gospel that told me that Maurice Clarett would get drafted on day one ooopss another fact that blows you theory that I've been consistently wrong over the past 5 years.

Maurice Clarett is a success story for you? My goodness talk about scraping the bottom of the barrell to find a cracker.

Another congrats I suppose.

Oh, for the record, I NEVER said he wouldn't go on day 1, that is someone else, though it doesn't surprise me in the least that you associate it with me.

It's a fashion statement to wear the Jersey of a flop!!!!

Interesting Fashion statement!!!!

I think so too. Personally I wouldn't do it. I won't even wear a TO jersey. He's not an original Cowboy, or a Cowboys legend. The only players whose jersies I own who ever played for another team are Emmitt and Tony D. I was a friend of Mike Lucky. Dallas is the only team he ever played for. I wouldn't own a Mike Lucky jersey unless he gave it to me. Not my thing, but people do it.

The only threat Drew Henson possed was re-inventing the "ROBOT" not seen since the days of Shabba DOO and Boo-galo-Shrimp from the BREAKDANCE movies in the 80's.

You think it pissed me off. It didn't I just called you out for predicting "IT" when no shred of evidence can prove that Drew Henson even had what it took..

LOL

Whose days were numbered as soon as Henson signed the dotted line? Certainly wasn't Tony Romo. Was it? Can you admit to the truth? I doubt it.

Former Iraqi Minister of Communications:"We are devastating the American Force at Baghdad Airport. The infadels are fighting like women.

I'll admit it, that was funny. The rest of this, not so much.

Are you talking about DallasCowboys Central? If so..............

Yes, I was, because they have some kind of fascination with the word "props" and associate it with me even though I rarely use it.

Sad thing about this statement is there are very informative posters on every site. I've been posting long enough to know that while some sites might be putrid there are still nuggets of truth here and there, while I agree this is the best Cowboys forum I don't look down on others.

That wasn't me looking down on that site or their posters. It is entirely about what I said above. They have a strange fascination with the word.

I knew you back when you were trying to find a nitch on our old stomping ground DMN. I welcomed you and enjoyed you feisty posts. Now you've got the balls to look down on other forums and insinuate that they are cocnsistently wrong:bang2:

Once again get off you fying high horse.

Your interpretation is WAY off base as I've explained above. I have nothing against DCC, or any other forum. I have a friend named Wade who is a Cowboys fan, but he is not exactly "family friendly." He's funny and is smart. He knows about this site and he knows about DCC because I've told him about both. I even suggested he would be more comfortable at DCC because of his style and our Guidelines. I have no idea if he ever joined there or not because I haven't seen him about 6 months since he moved up to Phoenix for a job.

I consider boozeman and NoDak Cowboy among others (I will surely forget names so I am limiting it to those) at DCC to be very good posters and great fans. I find sbk92 and Bob_Roberts funny. They know that. I always did. As far as I am concerned any of them are welcome to come back here any time and talk football. Three years ago just isn't interesting anymore.

All I ever did was support Carter. We invested a 2nd RD pick and he was our starting QB. If that means I am the founding member of the Caterite club then so be it.......

I did the same for Walsh and Troy almost 18 years ago. No one knows who will have the mental fortitude to get over the hump. All players that earned the grade to be drafted need to be extended the same luxury to develop.

All of us supported Carter Charles. Every one of us who breathes, sings badly in the shower, and dances when no one is around. No one wanted him to fail unless they were a complete idiot.

A lot of us felt like we deserved better talent for our starting QB. For that we put up with all kinds of mania and crap that to this day amazes me. I have said this dozens of times but it still doesn't sink in with any of you guys who were so rabid in your defense of Carter. "Where were you when I was criticizing Hambrick, Ekuban, Testaverde, or any other player?" That question has never been answered by any of you. I don't think you have the nads to admit you were off base about a lot of really good people.

It was always about getting better, just like it is for every position on the team. Only where it pertained to that player some of you were simply beyond believing. I have never seen anything like it in my life and I hope I never do again.

For some reason defending that developement process for Carter equates to some form of stigma.........

Not surprised at all, that those who don't think Carter is worth damn would be berating posters that empathize with Carter and try and trivialize the buzz he's generating at AFL2 (not surprised again that AFL2 was equated to Special olympics). If he ain't worth a damn then why waste your time on this thread. But if those posters are so bent on cleaning out the trash why aren't they berating those that equate AFL2 to Special Olympics.

Point of fact Mr. No Clue, but I have NEVER once said AFL2, AFL, CFL, or NFLE aren't worth a damn. Hell, I never said that about XFL or USFL either. I have also never said Carter isn't "worth a damn."

I repeat what I did say then, and I make no apologies for it. "I think we needed to get better at starting QB." On that topic, (which is the only one I ever discussed while you spun around the world and got dizzy) you never had a prayer of proving me wrong.

I say kudos to Carter for humbling himself to get a JOB paying $200 a week doing what he loves doing and subsequently not hiding from the spotlight when his performance on the job creates a buzz.

Kudos to Carter. Will that end the discussion? Hell no. This ain't my first rodeo.

 

[Hostile]

I see you've ran the Quincy Carter Gauntlet

It's amazing how folks who claim to not give a damn about Carter would waste time on this thread.

One things for sure ilovejerry, from now on everyone of your post regardless of topics, player or situation will be prefix with "he had empathy for Carter"....:

This is what I mean by "crap stirring" Charles. The painting of other people.

 

[Vintage]

Hostile:" I didn't want him (Meriweather) to be a Cowboy"

Why? The most successful team in the NFL this side of our Dynasty thinks he's worth it.

Which means, what, exactly?

Unless the Patriots are hereby announced as being infallible, I am not sure what this has to do with anything.

The Patriots can and have made mistakes before.

Just because they drafted Merriweather does not exclude the possibility of them being wrong.

 

[Rackat]

Hostile, do you have a forum feature that will allow me to get back the last 15 minutes of my life after reading this thread?

 

[Hostile]

Which means, what, exactly?

Unless the Patriots are hereby announced as being infallible, I am not sure what this has to do with anything.

The Patriots can and have made mistakes before.

Just because they drafted Merriweather does not exclude the possibility of them being wrong.

Somehow it means I was wrong Vintage. I can't even begin to tell you why, but I really frigged up when I said I don't want the Cowboys to draft Merriweather.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

 

[Hostile]

Hostile, do you have a forum feature that will allow me to get back the last 15 minutes of my life after reading this thread?

It isn't a forum feature, but Nyquil cures all.

No charge for the tip.

 

[DallasEast]

If Carter truly desired success, he would somehow find a way to bottle whatever "it" is that inspires such faithfulness in his followers. I consider myself an amateur history buff of this franchise. To the best of my knowledge, no former Cowboy player, who had as little impact on the franchise as Carter, has fostered such unwavering compassion in his continued well-being. By nature, it almost takes on the aura of a religious fervor. Maybe in a hundred years or so, the Most Holy Temple Of The Quincy may sprout throughout the land promoting happiness and well-being. The offering plate will be filled with weed for parishioners to enjoy daily sermons of, "How the Cowboys Deceived our saintly QB". These are the days all should look forward to.

Amen.

 

[silverbear]

I gave some thought to commenting on how completely ludicrous this little flame war is...

Then I remembered the dozens of even more ludicrous flame wars I've gotten myself into, and thought that maybe, just maybe, it would be hypocritical for me to make such a comment...

So I won't...

 

[Yeagermeister]

I gave some thought to commenting on how completely ludicrous this little flame war is...

Then I remembered the dozens of even more ludicrous flame wars I've gotten myself into, and thought that maybe, just maybe, it would be hypocritical for me to make such a comment...

So I won't...

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! This a day to mark down in CZ history.

Hos make a note of this :laugh2:

 

[silverbear]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! This a day to mark down in CZ history.

Hos make a note of this :laugh2:

I expect full credit, perhaps even a parade...

It's a kinder, gentler Bear addressing you today...

I figure that oughta last about another 10, 15 minutes tops...

 

[Hostile]

I expect full credit, perhaps even a parade...

It's a kinder, gentler Bear addressing you today...

I figure that oughta last about another 10, 15 minutes tops...

Come Monday you can have a cheeseburger while you search for your lost shaker of salt.

Parrotheads unite.

Oh yeah, kudos on the Seger album recommend. Love it.

 

[jobberone]

It must be something in the water Hos. Maybe some Ent juice.

I got it. He threw it in the fire.

Just kidding Silverbear. Couldn't resist getting a cheap shot in.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

This thread equals a couch...this is what needs to be done to the couch...

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[5Stars]

This thread equals a couch...this is what needs to be done to the couch...

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Cocain is a hell of a drug!

 

[Charles]

Oh please. I welcome the challenges. My objection is to your painting me as a racist. You can take that BS and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. When called on it you don't even have the sack to deny it or apologize for the misconception. Know why? There was none. That is exactly what you tried to accuse me of and it is complete and utter BS. I would prefer to never read that crap again.

IMHO I believed you stereotyped Brandon Meriweather. You didn't want him based on the character issues noted by draft publication grades, when presented with evidence contrary to the general sentiment that Meriweather had character issues you still held fast to your opinion.......that my friend in a nutshell is bigotry.

You can be a bigot without being a racist.

You can stereotype without being a racist.

If some reason you extrapolated racism from my contentions then get in touch with your reasoning faculties because as I meantioned above one can be a bigot and stereotyper without having racist feelings.......capiche!!!!

I can't believe someone as smart as you are needs to have this explained to you. The "crap stirring" is the celebration of the attention these threads receive like it's some kind of badge of honor for YOU. Shut the hell up already.

Once again that is your opinion. I didn't celebrate the attention that Carter threads get. Infact I am amazed it. That is why when I come across his threads I always comment about the 1000 view threshold and why folks seem to always gravitate towards Carter threads.

For some reason you seem to equate that to celebrating. Once again another perfect example of how we view things differently.


And yes..........I am smart. Thank You!!!:

This is hilarious. Dude, you are in such denial. Why do you suppose you take shots at me in these QB threads even if I'm not involved? The constant mentions of "QB gurus," "It factor," "pedigree," "sig pictures," etc. You and I both know those are all references to me. Why deny it?

Are you the only one (poster) who surmised that Drew Henson and Chad Hutchinson had "IT"?

Are you the only one (poster) who surmised Henson and Hutchinson had pedigree?

Are you the only one (poster) that claimed to know that Carter didn't have what it took (QB Gurus)?

If you answer yes to the above questions then you might have a point.

In fact you are not the only one who shared those sentiments, therefore I could be referencing not only you, but many other posters that shared those opinions.

Once again get off you fying high horse.

Do you have a persecution complex?

Have I ever been one to beat about the bush. If I wanted to call you out I'd do. Infact my track record is proof. I don't need foreplay. If I am calling you out you'll know it.

You just fit the describtion and felt the need to push yourself to the front of the line.

How about your failed attempts to read my mind and interpret what my thoughts were? Remember the whole I was "seeking improvement" and Carter improved, therefore I should be "satisfied" stuff? How about where you constantly have tried to paint me as Hutch guy, and can't get it done? How about the racist accusations?

Chicken Little is that you!!!!

Truer words have never been spoken......."Every HEROE needs a villain"

You're constantly wrong. Everyone is used to it. The only problem is, you can't own up to it.

So far in this thread I've admitted to being wrong several times.

What more does it take?

Once again........I don't give an "F" about everyone. Not surprised you care about what "everyone" and "most" think.......Mr.Persecution Complex

Every heard of nonsense? You used it because you wrongly think it proves your analysis of me. It doesn't.

The Meriweather anaology proves that WE look at things differently.

Not surprised again that you'd think I was using as an "analysis of me".

What a complex.......

I have no idea what this blather is about and frankly it doesn't interest me in the least. Congratulations on Scott Pioli justifying something that in your mind is a big freaking deal.

I guess.

I repeat, I didn't want him, we didn't get him, Anthony was our pick all along. How his going to the Patriots is relevant, I have no idea, but again congrats.

Well let me explain it Hosplex........

Based on your interpretation of various draft guides and grades (as you mention earlier in the thread) you stated you didn't want Meriweather on the team.

Based on my knowledge of Meriweather as a high school player, collegiate player and various friends who work on sports representing agency, I knew he wasn't a bad character guy as paint by the various draft grades.

Scott Pioli who runs the most successful franchise since the 90's Cowboys must agree with my sentiments or he wouldn't waste a 1st RD pick on Meriweather.

It's not a big freaking deal. It just shows we look at things from different vantage points........capiche.......the same applies to Quincy Carter.......you see train wreck.........I see a young man making $200 a week doing what he luvs, creating a buzz and taking pictures with fans who like making funny fashion statements:

Do you now see the relevance?

Then go be a Patriots fan. I have no idea what you find so funny about this Charles. It isn't even interesting. I wouldn't care if he was the overall #1 pick. I didn't want him, and we didn't take him. It's really just that simple. Unless we had taken him I don't see what you think you have to thump your chest about.

I am not thumping my chest just showing a very distinct in how we go about formulating our opinions.

Maurice Clarett is a success story for you? My goodness talk about scraping the bottom of the barrell to find a cracker.

Another congrats I suppose.

Oh, for the record, I NEVER said he wouldn't go on day 1, that is someone else, though it doesn't surprise me in the least that you associate it with me.

Who said anything about Clarett being a success story?

Juvenile yet very common tactic used on forums these days. Create a premise.......then proceed to ridicule it

You stated that I hadn't gotten anything right in the past 5 years. Well I was right prior to the draft that Clarett would be drafted on Day one. That was evidence that I had been correct within the past 5 years. At no point did I say or insinuate that it was or it was going to be a success story.

Very Juvenile Hosplex......Why create a premise associate it to me then proceed to ridicule it

Come on Hosplex, take that juvenile style of posting and try it elsewhere.

By the way Hosplex, I didn't associate the Clarett stuff with you, once again I used it as evidence to show that I have been right sometimes over the past 5 years.

There's that complex again.

I think so too. Personally I wouldn't do it. I won't even wear a TO jersey. He's not an original Cowboy, or a Cowboys legend. The only players whose jersies I own who ever played for another team are Emmitt and Tony D. I was a friend of Mike Lucky. Dallas is the only team he ever played for. I wouldn't own a Mike Lucky jersey unless he gave it to me. Not my thing, but people do it.

But but didn't you just say wearing Jersey for players that have flopped in the NFL is a funny fashion statement, then when I proceed to show you a Cowboy fan wearing a Quincy Carter No.17 jersey you decide to come up with this drivel

What you don't think the Cowboy's fan in the wheel chair is trying to be funny or make a funny fashion statement?

Hosplex.........you full of it sometimes. I have friends and family whom have attend these games and the one thing they say is how amazed they are at the support Quincy is getting from Cowboy fans in attendance.....making funny fashion statements was weak...........

LOL

Whose days were numbered as soon as Henson signed the dotted line? Certainly wasn't Tony Romo. Was it? Can you admit to the truth? I doubt it.

That is a good question?

Whose days were numbered?

One thing for sure there were only 3 QBs on roster the day Henson came aboard who were good enough to FINISH an NFL game.

Since you are into numbering I'll let you do the math.

I'll admit it, that was funny. The rest of this, not so much.

Yes, I was, because they have some kind of fascination with the word "props" and associate it with me even though I rarely use it.

That wasn't me looking down on that site or their posters. It is entirely about what I said above. They have a strange fascination with the word.

Your interpretation is WAY off base as I've explained above. I have nothing against DCC, or any other forum. I have a friend named Wade who is a Cowboys fan, but he is not exactly "family friendly." He's funny and is smart. He knows about this site and he knows about DCC because I've told him about both. I even suggested he would be more comfortable at DCC because of his style and our Guidelines. I have no idea if he ever joined there or not because I haven't seen him about 6 months since he moved up to Phoenix for a job.

I consider boozeman and NoDak Cowboy among others (I will surely forget names so I am limiting it to those) at DCC to be very good posters and great fans. I find sbk92 and Bob_Roberts funny. They know that. I always did. As far as I am concerned any of them are welcome to come back here any time and talk football. Three years ago just isn't interesting anymore.

I apologize. My interpretation was WAY off base.

All of us supported Carter Charles. Every one of us who breathes, sings badly in the shower, and dances when no one is around. No one wanted him to fail unless they were a complete idiot.

That is not true. You can't speak for everyone, but you've made a habit of being real inclusive in this thread.........."everyone can see it" "most" etc.

Quincy Carter brought out the worst in Cowboy nation for and against.

A lot of us felt like we deserved better talent for our starting QB. For that we put up with all kinds of mania and crap that to this day amazes me. I have said this dozens of times but it still doesn't sink in with any of you guys who were so rabid in your defense of Carter.

I think everyone wanted another Staubach or Troy , but I didn't understand the reasoning behind no extending Carter the luxury of developing.

QBs like Roger and Troy just don't fall into our laps, just because QBs don't live up to their status doesn't mean they can't help the Cowboys succeed. I was rabid in my defense of Carter because up until we signed Bledsoe and then Romo's emergence no other QB had played better for the Cowboys since Troy Aikman.

You can't dial up 1-800-QB. You and the Henson croonies couldn't convince me he had "IT" just because his father was a coach, Jerry slaughtered a sacred Cowboy during the secret dinner and he looked like Troy starring down a defense.

I never saw Henson complete a game winning pass like Carter did several times. I never saw Henson make a play with his legs to pick up a key 1st down. I never saw Henson beat the eventual NFC SuperBowl representatives Panthers during a play-off push or lead the Cowboys into a divisional foe on the road to cement a play-off berth..........yet you'll have us believe Carter's days were numbered the day Henson signed the dotted line :laugh2:

Get that BS outta. Carter's days were numbered the minute he decided to roll up a fat spliff and smoke is opportunity away the Robot had nothing to do with it.

"Where were you when I was criticizing Hambrick, Ekuban, Testaverde, or any other player?" That question has never been answered by any of you. I don't think you have the nads to admit you were off base about a lot of really good people.

I do have the nads. I have been wrong about many people, but I don't need you to tell me when it's time to apologize.

Where was I, I don't know..........maybe I didn't care about Hambrick, Ekuban or Vinny. Maybe I missed those threads ..........maybe you have a Persecution complex that flares once in a while..........

It was always about getting better, just like it is for every position on the team. Only where it pertained to that player some of you were simply beyond believing. I have never seen anything like it in my life and I hope I never do again.

If it was about getting better then why couldn't you see "IT" in Romo. I mean the minute Henson signed you and "everyone" or "most" crew had signatures of this robot side by side Troy Aikman and Staubach.

It wasn't about getting better Hosplex. It was about anyone but Carter!!!!

Point of fact Mr. No Clue, but I have NEVER once said AFL2, AFL, CFL, or NFLE aren't worth a damn. Hell, I never said that about XFL or USFL either. I have also never said Carter isn't "worth a damn."

Hosplex........did I associate those statements to you or didn't I clearly state in terms of just conversating that there are posters in this thread who dodn't think Carter is worth a damn yet proceed to add to the thread count........get a grip Hosplex

I repeat what I did say then, and I make no apologies for it. "I think we needed to get better at starting QB." On that topic, (which is the only one I ever discussed while you spun around the world and got dizzy) you never had a prayer of proving me wrong.

And who exactly was you 1st choice a way of getting better. Drew Henson........A player that was so inconsistent in practice and his development that he couldn't even hold on to the back-up job when all he had to do was fend off a undrafted free agent.

Kudos to Carter. Will that end the discussion? Hell no. This ain't my first rodeo.

Yes it will. I am done here Kudos to Carter!!!

 

[dogunwo]

I am pretty tired of hearing about Quincy Carter

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

IMHO I believed you stereotyped Brandon Meriweather. You didn't want him based on the character issues noted by draft publication grades, when presented with evidence contrary to the general sentiment that Meriweather had character issues you still held fast to your opinion.......that my friend in a nutshell is bigotry.

You can be a bigot without being a racist.

You can stereotype without being a racist.

If some reason you extrapolated racism from my contentions then get in touch with your reasoning faculties because as I meantioned above one can be a bigot and stereotyper without having racist feelings.......capiche!!!!

Are you saying that meriweather had no character issues and it was proven he did not have character issues?
Are you saying that you think hos is a bigot because he still believes that meriweather has character issues?

Than maybe you are blind because the man DOES have character issues.
He was involved in the brawl at that game and made a complete arse out of himself and nothing in any publication or your perceived race baiting will change the fact that he made an arse out of himself during that situation.

I think it would better off if you either dropped your bigot race baiting tactics or just flat out move on because that is not going to fly any longer.

 

[DallasEast]

I am pretty tired of hearing about Quincy Carter

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