"I hope they (offense) do not throw the ball in my direction" Per Roy Williams

[khiladi]

He is not saying that. He's saying that's what his critics say about him. His critics have been spouting that for about two years now.

But if you listen to the interview, he is in NO WAY suggesting that finding God has anything to do with his hitting.

"People will say Roy is really not making any big hits. Ever since I rededicated my life to God, OK, I haven't been making the big hits, but we got further than we ever did when I was living of the world. When I rededicated my life, you know what I'm saying, God showed me that you don't have to live of the world and I will bless you. He has basically overflown my cup. He has shown me so much.

Notice the bold words. He flat-out admits that his lack of big hits coincides with his 'new found commitment to God', thus the introductory words, OK. Then there is the excuse that his lack of big hits has to do with the scheme. Last year, Roy, prior to the season, was talking about how the new scheme is benefitting him.

One excuse after the other. The only thing I know is that Roy hasn't admitted that the problem is himself. It's ridiculous. What is even more ridiculous is when people throw in the word God and religion, and the masses gulp it up.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well said Redball.

Also, the part about him "not making big hits since he found God" is also being taken completely out of context.

If you listen to the audio, he's saying that's what critics have been saying about him... that since he's found religion he hasn't been making big hits. But he NEVER says that religion is the reason he isn't making big hits (as many here have suggested in this thread).

What he does say is that because of his relationship with God, he no longer worries about the critics. But he absolutely does NOT say that religion has made him take it easy on the field.

In fact, right after he talks about religion, he says "THE HITS WILL COME."

People, Roy has his problems, but don't distort his words to make it seem worse than it is.

Thank You!!!

That's exactly what I thought. When I first read the "statement" here, I was wondering whether that was what his critics were saying about him. But because I didn't hear the entire piece, I started to believe what others did, i.e., that his new-found faith made him soft. But that didn't jive with the preceeding comments ... "THE HITS WILL COME."

If it was against his faith to deliver a crushing blow, why would he (still being a dedicated Christian) say ... "THE HITS WILL COME." That seem like a contradiction.

But that's why you have to be discerning and not jump to conclusions.

Again, good job, Danny White and Redball Express.

 

[tyke1doe]

This is the most confusing garbage I have read.

Is Roy saying that his big hits don't come because he has found God? If he is, then what the hell does the second paragraph mean, considering he is flat-out saying that big hits will come when he adjusts to the new defense. So he uses religion as an excuse for his poor play in one paragraph, and in the next paragraph, he says that it is part of the learning curve of a new defense?

The guy is looking for excuses. He isn't the smartest tool in the shed and the answer reveals his big ego more than anything else.

It's confusing because you have to take into consideration how athletics talk, especially "unintelligent" ones. (I don't want to say Roy is unintelligent. But for lack of a better word, I used it. Many athletes aren't the best spokesmen and don't really make great transitions, especially when they're speaking in public.)

I can understand him making an awkward transition. It happens all the time with athletes who can't quite articulate their position.

 

[khiladi]

Then he also injured TO when he was an Iggle with his horsecollar and then did it again with McNabb the next season.

And guess what? Those injuries were a result of the horse-collar tackles, the very tackle he didn't stop doing when he found his religion.

 

[Danny White]

"People will say Roy is really not making any big hits. Ever since I rededicated my life to God, OK, I haven't been making the big hits, but we got further than we ever did when I was living of the world. When I rededicated my life, you know what I'm saying, God showed me that you don't have to live of the world and I will bless you. He has basically overflown my cup. He has shown me so much.

Notice the bold words. He flat-out admits that his lack of big hits coincides with his 'new found commitment to God', thus the introductory words, OK. Then there is the excuse that his lack of big hits has to do with the scheme. Last year, Roy, prior to the season, was talking about how the new scheme is benefitting him.

One excuse after the other. The only thing I know is that Roy hasn't admitted that the problem is himself. It's ridiculous. What is even more ridiculous is when people throw in the word God and religion, and the masses gulp it up.

You need to listen to the interview. Although if you've already made up your mind so you'll probably hear what you want to hear.

First, that is not a direct quote from the interview. If you listen to it, he's not saying "OK" as "introductory words." In the interview he frequently intersperses "like" and "you know" and "ummm" and "OK" throughout his sentences (as many of us do when we're speaking. And in that sentence, he says "ummm OK" right there.

The real "introductory words" that everyone seems to be ignoring are:

"People will say:"

Which clearly, as far as I'm concerned, establishes that what he's going to say next is what "people will say." And indeed, that's what people DO say about him. But don't mistake that with what he's saying about himself.

 

[khiladi]

It's confusing because you have to take into consideration how athletics talk, especially "unintelligent" ones. (I don't want to say Roy is unintelligent. But for lack of a better word, I used it. Many athletes aren't the best spokesmen and don't really make great transitions, especially when they're speaking in public.)

I can understand him making an awkward transition. It happens all the time with athletes who can't quite articulate their position.

Even if he can't articulate his position, it is quite clear what Roy is trying to do. Whether it is his going off in tangents through sermonizing, talking about the scheme, or the corners getting paid the big bucks, it all comes down to Roy isn't to be blamed.

 

[Trendnet]

"People will say Roy is really not making any big hits. Ever since I rededicated my life to God, OK, I haven't been making the big hits, but we got further than we ever did when I was living of the world. When I rededicated my life, you know what I'm saying, God showed me that you don't have to live of the world and I will bless you. He has basically overflown my cup. He has shown me so much.

/quote]

People will say "Roy is really not making any big hits, ever since I rededicated my life to God, I haven't been making the big hits"

Now that is much different, than what you are claiming he is saying...

but the Roy bashers have never been ones to let facts get in there way of good bashing, now have they?

 

[khiladi]

You need to listen to the interview. Although if you've already made up your mind so you'll probably hear what you want to hear.

First, that is not a direct quote from the interview. If you listen to it, he's not saying "OK" as "introductory words." In the interview he frequently intersperses "like" and "you know" and "ummm" and "OK" throughout his sentences (as many of us do when we're speaking. And in that sentence, he says "ummm OK" right there.

The real "introductory words" that everyone seems to be ignoring are:

"People will say:"

Which clearly, as far as I'm concerned, establishes that what he's going to say next is what "people will say." And indeed, that's what people DO say about him. But don't mistake that with what he's saying about himself.

But people will say that he no longer lives for the world and his cup is overflowing? But people will say that he got further in his life than he ever did?

If he wasn't trying to justify his lack of big hits with religion, than why does he then go on about how he is now a better person with religion in the context of what the critics allege?

The fact is, even if he doesn't user religion as an excuse, he blames the scheme. He wasn't blaming the scheme last year, prior to training camp. He also ballooned by 20 pounds prior to training camp.

To Roy, it is always somebody other than himself. The guy blames other players on the field when their is a break-down in coverage by yelling at them.

 

[DallasFanSince86]

Well said Redball.

Also, the part about him "not making big hits since he found God" is also being taken completely out of context.

If you listen to the audio, he's saying that's what critics have been saying about him... that since he's found religion he hasn't been making big hits. But he NEVER says that religion is the reason he isn't making big hits (as many here have suggested in this thread).

What he does say is that because of his relationship with God, he no longer worries about the critics. But he absolutely does NOT say that religion has made him take it easy on the field.

In fact, right after he talks about religion, he says "THE HITS WILL COME."

People, Roy has his problems, but don't distort his words to make it seem worse than it is.

You RW haters are reading way too much into this--this is lockerroom talk between two players,--putting RW covering a wideout one-on-one is insane--what safety in the NFL can do that? with a few tweeks and some new players and new coaches the D will be fine. I have maintained for a year that lots of the blame assigned to RW should go to the inside LBs for not covering the middle. If Thomas can go, that's his speciality.

Agree with both posts.

 

[Danny White]

Here is the full, complete quote with all the ummms, likes, you knows and oks included.

I mean, you know what? It's, but then you have, you have some critics that, you know, that wanna eat you up. You know, ummm.

You know, people will say, ummmm, you know "Roy's really not making any big hits," you know what I'm sayin, and "ever since I've rededicated my life to God," you know, OK, "I haven't been making the big hits."

But we got farther than we ever did, you know what I'm sayin, than when I was living of the world.

 

[khiladi]

People will say "Roy is really not making any big hits, ever since I rededicated my life to God, I haven't been making the big hits"

Now that is much different, than what you are claiming he is saying...

but the Roy bashers have never been ones to let facts get in there way of good bashing, now have they?

Oh really? Is that why he then goes on the defensive by talking about how much religion has allegedly changed his life for the better? And then there is the following:

"Please believe the hits will come as we get more comfortable with my defense, with the 3-4 and coach Phillips' way that he wants us to play. Please believe the hits will come. I mean, I'm going to have to get comfortable in this defense."

So is it about the scheme now also?

And people think it is about Roy-bashing?

 

[DallasFanSince86]

"People will say Roy is really not making any big hits. Ever since I rededicated my life to God, OK, I haven't been making the big hits, but we got further than we ever did when I was living of the world. When I rededicated my life, you know what I'm saying, God showed me that you don't have to live of the world and I will bless you. He has basically overflown my cup. He has shown me so much.

People will say "Roy is really not making any big hits, ever since I rededicated my life to God, I haven't been making the big hits"

Now that is much different, than what you are claiming he is saying...

but the Roy bashers have never been ones to let facts get in there way of good bashing, now have they?

:clap2:

 

[DallasFanSince86]

I am 95% certain the Roy bashers will bash the safty that replaces him IF Roy leaves after next season.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Roy himself last year said he couldn't read until the 12th grade of high school. He's never been anything close to the same player since Darren Woodson retired and wasn't there anymore to tell him what to do on the field.

I believe it's a combination of him not being intelligent, being a little bit lazy and simply wanting to protect his body so that he doesn't live in pain after his career is finished.

What a disappointment.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I don't post in these threads because nothing anyone says will matter. You can't make someone believe the truth if they don't want to see it. Show them data, they will throw it out. Show them a quote and they will distort it beyond the original intent, show them visual evidence and they will find some way to write it off.

This is supposed to be a time of hope. We are coming off a 13-3 season, have fixed our secondary and runningback concerns, have a healthy WR corps, added a very smart veteran LB and have the best looking cheerleader squad in the NFL. Life is good, at least for me. I'll wait to bash the players once I see them on the field again.

 

[zeromaster]

"Please believe the hits will come as we get more comfortable with my defense, with the 3-4 and coach Phillips' way that he wants us to play. Please believe the hits will come. I mean, I'm going to have to get comfortable in this defense."

That sequence does not brim with confidence to my way of thinking.

I don't have to believe, Roy; you have to, or you have to find another line of work someday.

 

[FCBarca]

I am 95% certain the Roy bashers will bash the safty that replaces him IF Roy leaves after next season.

I'm 100% certain that the apologists will defend whomever replaces him regardless of how good or bad he is...It's called choking on the kool aid

 

[sbark]

Roy himself last year said he couldn't read until the 12th grade of high school. He's never been anything close to the same player since Darren Woodson retired and wasn't there anymore to tell him what to do on the field.

I believe it's a combination of him not being intelligent, being a little bit lazy and simply wanting to protect his body so that he doesn't live in pain after his career is finished.

What a disappointment.

Who showed him what to do at Oklahoma?........not being sarcastic, was there another FS etc that was a coach on the field? or was the system that much simpler?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Who showed him what to do at Oklahoma?........not being sarcastic, was there another FS etc that was a coach on the field? or was the system that much simpler?

He was so overwhelmingly dominant in college, he didn't need to get every detail right to succeed.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

C'mon, do you really believe this?


I'm surprised that a lot of people here, whose opinions I normally respect, are buying into this line of thinking.

Criticize his play all you want. But you guys are chasing after a red-herring with this religion angle.

I was obviously making a funny.
But I wasnt there so you never know... may not be far off actually.

Well played.

Yeah.... its too bad though... I could have made a funny about something else... "Hey, did you see that hit Roy layed on so and so" - - BUT those are just memories.




Read into it or dont read into. The proof is in the pudding. Mind you, I like Roy. Still do. Always will.

But in the real world... when you dont pull your own weight or dont perform to your job responsibilities or what have you - - YOU GET REPLACED! The ONLY thing keeping him from being moved it money. Everything else is just filler.