Rams looking to trade or cut Gurley

[aria]

Oh you mean like all the games where he’s running well in the first half then we abandon the run the rest of the game? Or do you mean when we just run it right up the gut 70% of the time on 1st down and the defense knows it?

If y’all think our players are the big problem you’re crazy. Under Garrett teams literally have to perform to perfection on the field to get any real winning done. Then once you get to the divisional against an equally talented or better team, it always results in a loss because that’s when coaching comes into play. No matter how good this team or players play, this isn’t the 90’s. You’re not gonna out talent the other team. Thought this was common sense

So the same guy that has a top 10, in some years the BEST O line, sets the rushing record and Garrett didn’t use him correctly? How exactly does that work? Did Garrett cause him to fumble at the worst possible time against New Orleans last year? Was it all play calling that caused the Ewok to get 8 yards on 9 attempts against Denver in ‘17? What about when he was tapping out this last season during some of the most crucial moments in the game?

He demanded to be paid as the best RB in the league and he fell short. Last time I checked we had the number one ranked offense last year yet you still deflect the Ewoks short comings on coaching. Only in homers fantasy land do people look at things so delusionaly. I’ll laugh and laugh when Zeke doesn’t get the rushing record with one of the best O lines in the league, under the savior McCarthy, and get to listen to the excuses of how it was all the coaches fault.

 

[aria]

Dude cmon, the line hasn’t played like the number one in the league since ‘16. Injuries and crap/repetitive schemes have greatly reduced the effectiveness of the line. They def are still good, but it’s not the same. Was Zeke perfect? No. But these guys have to be perfect to win with Garrett. We all know that. Any other coach last year and this team is much more effective.

You don’t think 5k passing yards 30TD’s from your QB and 1800 all purpose and 14TD’s from your back can be converted into less stats and more efficiency/wins? With a halfway decent coach I know it

Statistically you’re completely wrong about the O line. Oh that’s right, stats don’t matter unless people are using them to defend why the Ewok was the best (total yards) but stats are irrelevant when it comes to the offensive line

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/offensive-line/2019

 

[CowboyRoy]

stop the we shouldnt have signed Zeke, I find it odd that Johnson got moved but look what they got for him...htown gave up Hopkins and a 2 for him.. obviously RB is still important..Gurley is bad example because he was already hurt when they signed him it was dumb he had the knee they still inked him..

ZEKE IS THE ONLY BACK WHO AFTER SIGNING STILL MADE IT TOP 4 ONLY 30 YARDS SHORT OF CM of making it to 3? HE IS NEVER HURT ENOUGH TO MISS GAMES, HES STILL GAME PLANNED FOR AND VERY RELATIVE..I dont care about what he was in 2016 to now.. he still a beast and of the staff would have utilized him more in the pass game , he would be even more valuable..

teams still pick RBs top 5 after all this SB went high...you dont pay scrubs or inured players but Zeke not one of those...
its team by team and player by player situation on if you should or shouldnt sign the RB..

we relied on Dak more big puffy numbers and still finished 8-8 but Dak getting 32mil on a FT.. want 120 guarteed and 35 mil SMH thats an issue it ;like 18% of our cap zekes making around 13 mil atear the first 3 years.. thats not out of line..

No one is scared of Elliott. Why would anyone be scared of a back that cant run more than 15 yards? If I was a DC, I would like nothing more than for them to give the ball to Zeke 30 times.

 

[dragon_mikal]

Why is this even a thread?

Oh that’s right!

So some posters on here can use another team’s business decision to take jabs at our starting RB.

As if what the Rams are doing has any bearing whatsoever when it comes to this team and it’s roster.

Oh and Zeke was and will always be better than Gurley.

Hey maybe the Cowboys can wait till he’s cut and bring him in to be Zeke’s backup, lol.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dude cmon, the line hasn’t played like the number one in the league since ‘16. Injuries and crap/repetitive schemes have greatly reduced the effectiveness of the line. They def are still good, but it’s not the same. Was Zeke perfect? No. But these guys have to be perfect to win with Garrett. We all know that. Any other coach last year and this team is much more effective.

You don’t think 5k passing yards 30TD’s from your QB and 1800 all purpose and 14TD’s from your back can be converted into less stats and more efficiency/wins? With a halfway decent coach I know it

Coaching matters. Certainly running Zeke up the middle all day was an issue. But watch him run. The guy simply cant make big plays. He is NOT the back we hoped for. He is a volume back that needs great blocking and tons of carries.

I am of the belief that NO back is worth 15 million per year. Especially when you have a good Oline. Oline wasnt like 2016, but it was good. Stats bear that out.

 

[aria]

Why is this even a thread?

Oh that’s right!

So some posters on here can use another team’s business decision to take jabs at our starting RB.

As if what the Rams are doing has any bearing whatsoever when it comes to this team and it’s roster.

Oh and Zeke was and will always be better than Gurley.

Hey maybe the Cowboys can wait till he’s cut and bring him in to be Zeke’s backup, lol.

I couldn’t care less if he’s better or worse than Gurley, it doesn’t make the draft pick or contract right.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Why is this even a thread?

Oh that’s right!

So some posters on here can use another team’s business decision to take jabs at our starting RB.

As if what the Rams are doing has any bearing whatsoever when it comes to this team and it’s roster.

Oh and Zeke was and will always be better than Gurley.

Hey maybe the Cowboys can wait till he’s cut and bring him in to be Zeke’s backup, lol.

LOL...........before Gurleys injury, Zeke couldnt hold a candle to him. That is laughable.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It will be interesting to see what happens to CMC, Kamara, and Henry those guys will want more then Zeke. If I was Henry I would not sign the Tag after he led the Titans to the AFC championship game. Then the Titans slapped him in the face by giving Tannehill 90+ guaranteed after he carried the team on his back.

Titans are smart. They franchised him. The RB overpayment is done. I dont see anyone doing it anymore.

 

[Cattle_Rancher]

Just more proof its a bad idea to invest in RBs. Just draft one every few years in 3rd or 4th round rinse and repeat.

 

[817Gill]

So the same guy that has a top 10, in some years the BEST O line, sets the rushing record and Garrett didn’t use him correctly? How exactly does that work? Did Garrett cause him to fumble at the worst possible time against New Orleans last year? Was it all play calling that caused the Ewok to get 8 yards on 9 attempts against Denver in ‘17? What about when he was tapping out this last season during some of the most crucial moments in the game?

He demanded to be paid as the best RB in the league and he fell short. Last time I checked we had the number one ranked offense last year yet you still deflect the Ewoks short comings on coaching. Only in homers fantasy land do people look at things so delusionaly. I’ll laugh and laugh when Zeke doesn’t get the rushing record with one of the best O lines in the league, under the savior McCarthy, and get to listen to the excuses of how it was all the coaches fault.

You’re bringing up the Denver game in 2017 bro? Oh my god man you’re out there. The only season Zeke has run wild and been an “unstoppable force” was his rookie year when the offensive line was parting the Red Sea. He’s def not the same long speed guy, but he still attracts the defenses attention, can churn out tough yards, and moves the chains. He also can be used in the pass game, he’s a top 5 running back who’s durable.

Yeah you can say he wasn’t used efficiently lol? Where were the screens? Why did we run the ball 70% of the times on first down? Why did we only involve Zeke as a receiver in checkdown situations when he can make plays downfield (lions game/packers game)? If you think Jason Garrett was using Elliot to his optimal efficiency you are just plain wrong.

Lmao Mike isn’t a savior, he just isn’t arguably the worst HC in a sport where coaching is of the upmost importance.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dude cmon, the line hasn’t played like the number one in the league since ‘16. Injuries and crap/repetitive schemes have greatly reduced the effectiveness of the line. They def are still good, but it’s not the same. Was Zeke perfect? No. But these guys have to be perfect to win with Garrett. We all know that. Any other coach last year and this team is much more effective.

You don’t think 5k passing yards 30TD’s from your QB and 1800 all purpose and 14TD’s from your back can be converted into less stats and more efficiency/wins? With a halfway decent coach I know it

Maybe McCarthy can get more out of him. But I am of the belief that Pollard needs to get more touches.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You’re bringing up the Denver game in 2017 bro? Oh my god man you’re out there. The only season Zeke has run wild and been an “unstoppable force” was his rookie year when the offensive line was parting the Red Sea. He’s def not the same long speed guy, but he still attracts the defenses attention, can churn out tough yards, and moves the chains. He also can be used in the pass game, he’s a top 5 running back who’s durable.

Yeah you can say he wasn’t used efficiently lol? Where were the screens? Why did we run the ball 70% of the times on first down? Why did we only involve Zeke as a receiver in checkdown situations when he can make plays downfield (lions game/packers game)? If you think Jason Garrett was using Elliot to his optimal efficiency you are just plain wrong.

Lmao Mike isn’t a savior, he just isn’t arguably the worst HC in a sport where coaching is of the upmost importance.

Not sure why some of you guys arent bull on Mccarthy. Who were you hoping for?

 

[817Gill]

Coaching matters. Certainly running Zeke up the middle all day was an issue. But watch him run. The guy simply cant make big plays. He is NOT the back we hoped for. He is a volume back that needs great blocking and tons of carries.

I am of the belief that NO back is worth 15 million per year. Especially when you have a good Oline. Oline wasnt like 2016, but it was good. Stats bear that out.

He isn’t the same long speed you’re right, but he did have some games where his burst was there. I remember that 15 yard run where he just shot out of a cannon. I think a full camp will help.

What he is though is durable, versatile, moves the chains, and attracts the defenses attention. He can also give you games where really gets going and looks dominant, you just have to keep giving him the ball instead of stopping after one drive.

He’s not 15M tho. His cap his is 10m this year and 12m next year. The season he hits 15 we can release him. He’s also about to be the 8th highest paid or something after all these backs get theirs (cmac, kamara, Barkley, cook, Henry, Gordon). It’s a team friendly deal for a back who’s slight step back is still good for top 5 in the league. Unless he has a major decline I think we are in good shape. Just need a bit more burst on a consistent basis from him

 

[StuckMojo]

but we DID overpay for a RB. zeke is not as good as he was , plus he has a terrible locker room and PR effect on the team

Never heard that Zeke has a terrible locker room effect.

 

[aria]

You’re bringing up the Denver game in 2017 bro? Oh my god man you’re out there. The only season Zeke has run wild and been an “unstoppable force” was his rookie year when the offensive line was parting the Red Sea. He’s def not the same long speed guy, but he still attracts the defenses attention, can churn out tough yards, and moves the chains. He also can be used in the pass game, he’s a top 5 running back who’s durable.

Yeah you can say he wasn’t used efficiently lol? Where were the screens? Why did we run the ball 70% of the times on first down? Why did we only involve Zeke as a receiver in checkdown situations when he can make plays downfield (lions game/packers game)? If you think Jason Garrett was using Elliot to his optimal efficiency you are just plain wrong.

Lmao Mike isn’t a savior, he just isn’t arguably the worst HC in a sport where coaching is of the upmost importance.

Since you don’t want to bring up the past, let’s forget about 2016, 2017, and 2018. Would you like me to bring up significant games from 2019 where he didn’t live up to what he demanded?

Regardless of how good you think he is, do you know how many times a rushing champion has won a Super Bowl in the past 20 years? Drafting him with the #4 overall pick and paying him as much they did was a total waste, plain and simple.

So you’re saying Garrett was the worst HC in football?

 

[aria]

Never heard that Zeke has a terrible locker room effect.

So holding out with two years left on his contract and hanging out in Cabo while the rest of his team is practicing together isn’t a distraction?

 

[basel90]

Never heard that Zeke has a terrible locker room effect.

yes he does,. plus public incidents, plus he held out of practice in cabo for 40+ days.

 

[The Fonz]

Don't invest in runningbacks.. It's stupid.

They single handedly screwed up the RB market and we followed their footsteps.


Now they paid a slightly above mediocre QB and we have to now pay our slightly above mediocre QB.


Following the Rams stupidity.. It's what we do.

JJ will do the same mistake with Dak

 

[StuckMojo]

So holding out with two years left on his contract and hanging out in Cabo while the rest of his team is practicing together isn’t a distraction?

Never heard another player say anything negative about Zeke.
Now on here you are always acting like a Li’l schoolgirl and constantly running him down.

 

[MaineBoy]

stop the we shouldnt have signed Zeke, I find it odd that Johnson got moved but look what they got for him...htown gave up Hopkins and a 2 for him.. obviously RB is still important..Gurley is bad example because he was already hurt when they signed him it was dumb he had the knee they still inked him..

ZEKE IS THE ONLY BACK WHO AFTER SIGNING STILL MADE IT TOP 4 ONLY 30 YARDS SHORT OF CM of making it to 3? HE IS NEVER HURT ENOUGH TO MISS GAMES, HES STILL GAME PLANNED FOR AND VERY RELATIVE..I dont care about what he was in 2016 to now.. he still a beast and of the staff would have utilized him more in the pass game , he would be even more valuable..

teams still pick RBs top 5 after all this SB went high...you dont pay scrubs or inured players but Zeke not one of those...
its team by team and player by player situation on if you should or shouldnt sign the RB..

we relied on Dak more big puffy numbers and still finished 8-8 but Dak getting 32mil on a FT.. want 120 guarteed and 35 mil SMH thats an issue it ;like 18% of our cap zekes making around 13 mil atear the first 3 years.. thats not out of line..

you can’t possibly use Houston’s globally condemned idiot move taking Johnson and his contract as proof that running backs justify high draft picks and huge contracts ? Houston wanted to move Hopkins, which was stupid enough, and then made the insane move of letting Arizona dump useless Johnson and his 10 mil contract on them. That’s why one NFL analyst wrote an article today saying it was the worst deal in NFL history, and Johnson the running back was one of the reasons why. Houston did not give up Hopkins and a pick to get Johnson. Not even close, so let’s be clear on that one point.