Realistic fallback RB trade option

Nexx

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no thanks ill go with what we got over those guys.
 

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After years of not having a decent OL, we now we have a great OL that helped result in us having one of our best seasons and most balanced offensive attacks in recent memory.

And what is the teams takeaway? The OL is so good we don't need a quality RB, anyone will do. While we may not need to have a high salaried RB, it's not likely we can just put anyone back there and duplicate the success. But that seems to be exactly what we're planning on doing.

And if anyone hasn't noticed, Romo isn't getting any younger. He's in his mid 30's. If this gamble doesn't work out we may not have many more chances to make a deep run before we'll need to find a new QB too.
 

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Listen, your not getting what Im saying. We only have 4 runningbacks in our team. We are a running team. We are not a passing team. Two of our runningbacks have a propensity to get injured. McFadden has never stayed healthy during one year in his entire career. What makes you think he will stay healthy in Dallas? Same goes for Williams. He has never been able to remain healthy throughout his career.

So for a running team that have two runningbacks that can't stayed healthy their entire career and two other back that are merely backups says that we are not set our runningback.

If I were the Cowboys I would bring in more runningbacks to fight for the position. Why not? Everyone seems to think that anyone can run behind this oline. Thus why not sign anyone like someone from the Rams. Whats wrong with that?

You really seem to think we are good in the runningback dept. I don't think so. If McFadden gets injured like I believe might happen who is your backup? Randle? LOL give me a break.

The guy last year, Murray was injury prone coming out of college and why he was taken in the third round, and was considered injury prone in Dallas except last year......Randle was the backup last year, certainly had more burst hitting the hole than Murray.did and I believe the difference in games missed between Murray and Mcfadden is one game...Just because someone was injured three years ago or last year doesn't mean they're going to be injured this year, Murray is that case in point!! Talent wise, Mcfadden and Williams, a player by the way Dallas viewed as first round talent in the draft was coming off a serious injury on bad football team(s) offensively which defenses were able to stack the box with rookie QB's...Arizona and Oakland, two team not exactly smart when it comes to drafting and building football teams and developing a QB....McClain was in Oakland, so how has he worked out in Dallas....Dallas has four on the roster and probably will have a couple more UDFA coming in...it's not a position of NEED as the talking twits on TV believe, running back is an interchangeable position now in the NFL....you use them and move on and get another.....T.Hambrick, Julius Jones, M. Barber, T.Choice..everyone thought they were the next big thing...the days of ten and twelve year backs on clubs is ending..
 

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Terrance West and Isaiah Crowell were pretty productive as rookies for Cleveland last year. They drafted Duke Johnson this year so if either of the those two are available they should be considered. They are not scrubs.

Terrance West (3rd round pick): 673 Rushing yards. 3.9 avg. . 4 TD'S
Isaiah Crowell(Undrafted): 607 Rushing yards. 4.1 avg . 8 TD'S

Not to mention they shared the backfield with Ben Tate for a large portion of the season. And its the Browns. Imagine one of those guys on this team.
 

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The guy last year, Murray was injury prone coming out of college and why he was taken in the third round, and was considered injury prone in Dallas except last year......Randle was the backup last year, certainly had more burst hitting the hole than Murray.did and I believe the difference in games missed between Murray and Mcfadden is one game...Just because someone was injured three years ago or last year doesn't mean they're going to be injured this year, Murray is that case in point!! Talent wise, Mcfadden and Williams, a player by the way Dallas viewed as first round talent in the draft was coming off a serious injury on bad football team(s) offensively which defenses were able to stack the box with rookie QB's...Arizona and Oakland, two team not exactly smart when it comes to drafting and building football teams and developing a QB....McClain was in Oakland, so how has he worked out in Dallas....Dallas has four on the roster and probably will have a couple more UDFA coming in...it's not a position of NEED as the talking twits on TV believe, running back is an interchangeable position now in the NFL....you use them and move on and get another.....T.Hambrick, Julius Jones, M. Barber, T.Choice..everyone thought they were the next big thing...the days of ten and twelve year backs on clubs is ending..

McFadden has been injured most of his entire career and never finished one year without being injured. So this concept that he will all of a sudden become durable because he plays in Dallas is nothing more than a pipe dream. Unless he has taken steps to make sure that he's gonna be healthy this season like what Murray did last season.

But other than that, injury or not, the team is taking a big risk with McFadden not only being healthy, but also proving that he can be that 5 yards per carry back that Murray was during his entire career here in Dallas. That is a lot of IFs attached to vaunted offense that relies more on the run than the pass. With the departure of Murray, I think its a bad idea to hang our entire hopes on Mcfadden alone. I certainly wouldn't and the Cowboys should not as well. Thus we should be signing some free agents or even some UDFA to see how they would fair here running the ball. What we have not will not survive the entire season and would certainly not drive fear in the hearts of the defense trying to stop the run.

We signed 13 linebackers. Why in the world can't we bring in more runningbacks to see how they will do during training camp? Its low risk and low cost to do so and for a position of such importance the Cowboys should treat it as such.
 

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If we don't like what we see in training camp, here's a preliminary list of guys we might make some calls for:

Matt Forte (contract year, new regime, and just drafted Langford and signed Jacquizz Rodgers and still have Kadeem Carey from last year; would be perfect one-year rental)
Christine Michael (uber talented, SEA just resigned Lynch to a big deal and have Turbin as backup)
Stevan Ridley (NYJ just traded for Stacy and have ivory. Ridley coming off ACL but should be fine by mid season. Cheap contract)
Khiry Robinson (NO resigned Ingeam and signed spiller)
Isaiah Crowell or Terrance West (CLE just drafted Duke and may not want to carry 3 RBs, none of whom play special teams)
Bryce Brown (very talented former Eagle, but bit of a head case. BUF traded for McCoy, still had F Jax, and drafted Karlos Williams)

McFadden is better than all those guys. i just don't see why some of you won't face this fact. McFadden will be the cowboys staring RB this year. and he will get the job done.
 

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Same could be said of Murray.......

Does McFadden have a 5 yards per carry average? Murray did. McFadden looked great on paper. But when it came to it Murray out performed him. Thus not only do we have to worry about his health can he produce almost as good as Murray? I will take almost or good enough but even that is a stretch.
 

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Does McFadden have a 5 yards per carry average? Murray did. McFadden looked great on paper. But when it came to it Murray out performed him. Thus not only do we have to worry about his health can he produce almost as good as Murray? I will take almost or good enough but even that is a stretch.

Did Mcfadden have the ability to run behind this offensive line..didn't see that in Oakland....you seem to think the running back makes the offensive line, it's the other way round.....and last time I checked, Mcfadden hasn't been guaranteed anything,,,, Randle had no problem averaging 6.7 ypc behind this offensive line, and chances are Williams and Randle will be the leading candidates as the starting backs, not Mcfadden
 

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Did Mcfadden have the ability to run behind this offensive line..didn't see that in Oakland....you seem to think the running back makes the offensive line, it's the other way round.....and last time I checked, Mcfadden hasn't been guaranteed anything,,,, Randle had no problem averaging 6.7 ypc behind this offensive line, and chances are Williams and Randle will be the leading candidates as the starting backs, not Mcfadden

And defenses had to adjust and focus on Romo and our wr's/te's (Witten), while stopping Murray and the running game. What did defenses have to worry about in Oakland as far as their qb's or wr's while McFadden was a starter?
 

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Does McFadden have a 5 yards per carry average? Murray did. McFadden looked great on paper. But when it came to it Murray out performed him. Thus not only do we have to worry about his health can he produce almost as good as Murray? I will take almost or good enough but even that is a stretch.

Murray was injured in 11, 12, 13, last year was his only year playing 16 games. Oh and btw McFadden played 16 games last year as well. If we are having this conversation 1 year ago, nobody was talking about Murray producing and staying healthy, because it was fresh in our minds that we had just seen him missing games in every season. So if Murray can do it out of nowhere then so can McFadden.
 

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Good grief, people. Stephen Jones has already said that Dallas will not be trading for any veteran players. If we get a chance to sign someone who's been cut, then it might happen. But it's not going to be through a trade.
 

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Patriots won the Superbowl with SIX running backs throughout the year, the panic about the need for going out for a running back is getting ridiculous,,, the Cowboys have a 1st rounder in Mcfadden, a 2nd rounder in Williams, a 5th rounder in Randle and a free agent signing in Dunbar...and the Cowboys signed a developmental back in Days out of GT last night as a UDFA...I think the Cowboys will be fine....

Thank you! :clap: I'd like to see McFadden at least get an opportunity to fail before everyone panics.
 

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Murray was injured in 11, 12, 13, last year was his only year playing 16 games. Oh and btw McFadden played 16 games last year as well. If we are having this conversation 1 year ago, nobody was talking about Murray producing and staying healthy, because it was fresh in our minds that we had just seen him missing games in every season. So if Murray can do it out of nowhere then so can McFadden.

McFadden stayed healthy and posted an impressive 3.3 YPC

And before the usual "it was Oakland" response, Their 6th round rookie averaged over 5 YPC behind the same line

Please explain if you can
 

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McFadden stayed healthy and posted an impressive 3.3 YPC

And before the usual "it was Oakland" response, Their 6th round rookie averaged over 5 YPC behind the same line

Please explain if you can

To play a bit of devil's advocate he had a single run of 90 yards which heavily impacts his average.
 

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Creating contingency plans for a problem that does not exist is a waste of time and borders on paranoia. RB is not a position that we need to worry about.
 

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McFadden stayed healthy and posted an impressive 3.3 YPC

And before the usual "it was Oakland" response, Their 6th round rookie averaged over 5 YPC behind the same line

Please explain if you can

This has been discussed ad nauseous since mcfadden signed.

Latavious Murray had a 90 yard run against the Chiefs. You take that run out and his average is 4.1 ypc. Over the last 4 games when he actually received decent work his ypc was 3.8.
 

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A trade is possible for the right guy at the right price. And I think its something they may explore. If it happens it wont be earth shattering, just talent acquisition.

I think they need a power back to go with Randle. Garrett talks about those " dirty yards" I dont think we have a back for that on the roster.

If I was calling the shots I would sign Moreno and tandem him with Randle. He also gives you a third down back if/when McFadden gets hurt
 
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