Realistic fallback RB trade option

[darthseinfeld]

We can only hope.

Wasn't he a true freshman this year?

 

[alicetooljam]

McFadden is better than all those guys. i just don't see why some of you won't face this fact. McFadden will be the cowboys staring RB this year. and he will get the job done.

McFadden is better than Forte?

Im not hitting the panic button, but still have a wait and see approach to our running game. I have more faith in Randle (on the field) at this point than any of our other backs....We could be "fine" or we could be in real trouble by midseason. I really hope we are better than fine...we'll see.

 

[Beast_from_East]

This has been discussed ad nauseous since mcfadden signed.

Latavious Murray had a 90 yard run against the Chiefs. You take that run out and his average is 4.1 ypc. Over the last 4 games when he actually received decent work his ypc was 3.8.

Still doesn't change the fact that a 6th round rookie at 3.8 is better than McFadden at 3.3

 

[Galian Beast]

We really have to hope that we see an entirely different Ryan Williams this year. I want to believe that Linehan will use Dunbar to his abilities as well.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

This has been discussed ad nauseous since mcfadden signed.

Latavious Murray had a 90 yard run against the Chiefs. You take that run out and his average is 4.1 ypc. Over the last 4 games when he actually received decent work his ypc was 3.8.

So, running behind the same line, someone named Latavious is nearly a yard per carry better than our starting RB?

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

McFadden stayed healthy and posted an impressive 3.3 YPC

And before the usual "it was Oakland" response, Their 6th round rookie averaged over 5 YPC behind the same line

Please explain if you can

By game log, Murray only started playing the last 6 games or so (at end of the season). The 1st 2, he had 4 carries each game and those were for big runs. Accelerating his overall average.

11/16 SD
4-43 (10.8 avg)

11/20 KC
4 - 112 (28.0 avg)

Last 4 games he had one game where he averaged over 3.7 ypg.

12/7 SF
23 - 76 (3.3 avg)

12/14 KC
12 - 59 (4.9 avg)

12/21 BUF
23-86 (3.7 avg)

12/28 DEN
10-37 (3.7 avg)

 

[Jstopper]

McFadden stayed healthy and posted an impressive 3.3 YPC

And before the usual "it was Oakland" response, Their 6th round rookie averaged over 5 YPC behind the same line

Please explain if you can

Murray (from Oakland) had less carries than McFadden, his YPC looks so good because of the 90 yard run he had. 1 run. Take that away and his YPC also falls into the 3's. Not to mention they changed o-linemen out from when McFadden was running to when Murray was running. Nobody was looking good behind that garbage line for Oakland. Same reason that Randle had a higher YPC than Murray. Volume of carries

 

[Jstopper]

So, running behind the same line, someone named Latavious is nearly a yard per carry better than our starting RB?

When he actually had real carries Latavious averaged 3.7 a game. That line just was horrible period man. Randle averaged 6.7 does that make him better than Demarco Murray?

 

[ConstantReboot]

Did Mcfadden have the ability to run behind this offensive line..didn't see that in Oakland....you seem to think the running back makes the offensive line, it's the other way round.....and last time I checked, Mcfadden hasn't been guaranteed anything,,,, Randle had no problem averaging 6.7 ypc behind this offensive line, and chances are Williams and Randle will be the leading candidates as the starting backs, not Mcfadden

Who said that I said that runningbacks makes this offensive line? Thats a silly notion and I know that that ain't true. We have a very good oline. Its too bad that the Cowboys think they can produce as well as Murray with what we have now. Its like having a Ferrari and all you do is let a little, old lady drive it. A good oline deserves a good runningback. I don't put much faith with what we have now. Williams hasn't played since 2011. Randle is nothing more than a backup that succeeded running behind Murray who softened up the defense. Do you think that Randle will be able to force defenses to adjust? I doubt it.

Like I mentioned before there is no harm in bringing in more runningbacks to see what they can do because this group is not going to cut it.

Lastly, I don't buy the excuse about Oakland's oline being the problem. If it was why can the other runningbacks post better numbers than McFadden? Early in Murray's career, he didn't have an oline like he had now. Still he averaged 5 yards a carry. What is McFadden's excuse?

 

[ConstantReboot]

Murray was injured in 11, 12, 13, last year was his only year playing 16 games. Oh and btw McFadden played 16 games last year as well. If we are having this conversation 1 year ago, nobody was talking about Murray producing and staying healthy, because it was fresh in our minds that we had just seen him missing games in every season. So if Murray can do it out of nowhere then so can McFadden.

Too bad Mcfadden isn't Murray. Murray actually produced his entire time here in Dallas, with or without the oline that we have now. What's with McFadden and his inability to do the same? If your going to compare runners compare them based on productivity also. McFadden may be able to stay away from injury. However, what if he doesn't? What then? Who is gonna run the ball? Randle?

Thus the reason why Dallas should not put all their eggs into one basket. They should be getting more backs in here to test them out and see what they can do. Because this group of runningbacks have too many questions marks to say the least.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Creating contingency plans for a problem that does not exist is a waste of time and borders on paranoia. RB is not a position that we need to worry about.

Sounds like the crew of the Titanic. But whatever.

I'm not panicing and probably no one is. I'm just pointing out a obvious oversight by the Cowboys FO that this group of running backs can almost equal the production of Murray. I doubt it and now is the time to make better a group that is subpar. Who would you rather let drive a Ferrari? The racecar driver or an old lady?

 

[JoeKing]

Sounds like the crew of the Titanic. But whatever.

I'm not panicing and probably no one is. I'm just pointing out a obvious oversight by the Cowboys FO that this group of running backs can almost equal the production of Murray. I doubt it and now is the time to make better a group that is subpar. Who would you rather let drive a Ferrari? The racecar driver or an old lady?

No, there are definitely folks out there in full blown panic mode. I don't think you've heard anyone in the FO say anything to that affect. Equaling the production of Murray last year is not a goal or necessity. They just need to consistently move the ball down the field. Not sure who you are calling an "old lady" but you are clearly exaggerating to make a failed point.

 

[ConstantReboot]

No, there are definitely folks out there in full blown panic mode. I don't think you've heard anyone in the FO say anything to that affect. Equaling the production of Murray last year is not a goal or necessity. They just need to consistently move the ball down the field. Not sure who you are calling an "old lady" but you are clearly exaggerating to make a failed point.

Failed point in what? Point is that we are entrusting our oline on a bunch of nobodies while we could get or find better. Yes this bunch of scrubs is like having a lady drive a Ferrari.

 

[JoeKing]

Failed point in what? Point is that we are entrusting our oline on a bunch of nobodies while we could get or find better. Yes this bunch of scrubs is like having a lady drive a Ferrari.

Okay that's just your opinion but whatever. We'll see just how right(or wrong) you are soon enough.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Okay that's just your opinion but whatever. We'll see just how right(or wrong) you are soon enough.

Frankly, I hope Im wrong. That way our team does better. But there are too many IFs right now with our running game. If your okay with that than fine. I'm not. Thus i'm vocal about what I believe is wasted opportunity right here right now.

 

[JoeKing]

Frankly, I hope Im wrong. That way our team does better. But there are too many IFs right now with our running game. If your okay with that than fine. I'm not. Thus i'm vocal about what I believe is wasted opportunity right here right now.

And don't think you won't be reminded how wrong you are when the current guys show just how good they are behind our O-line. I'm only okay with it because smarter football minds (not named Jones) say so. I trust the current system.

 

[ConstantReboot]

And don't think you won't be reminded how wrong you are when the current guys show just how good they are behind our O-line. I'm only okay with it because smarter football minds (not named Jones) say so. I trust the current system.

Wow how vindictive. I don't care if I'm wrong and so what. At least I have the balls to admit it. Do you?

 

[JoeKing]

Wow how vindictive. I don't care if I'm wrong and so what. At least I have the balls to admit it. Do you?

Do I have the balls to admit your are wrong. Yes, you are wrong. I'm not sure why you think it takes balls to admit what everybody else already knows. LOL

 

[jnday]

And don't think you won't be reminded how wrong you are when the current guys show just how good they are behind our O-line. I'm only okay with it because smarter football minds (not named Jones) say so. I trust the current system.

One winning season sure went a long way with you.

 

[JoeKing]

One winning season sure went a long way with you.

You saw the games last year. If you don't want to believe your own eyes, that's your business. I believe.