Really Juicy Stanback Nuggets

[JonJon]

jdub, I've been hearing great things about the guy for almost a year now. He may be the next great thing, but kind of hard to tell until he gets on the field and does something.

But hey, we still have about 4-5 months to talk about what he might be able to do.

I can understand why the coaches kept him out of the receiving lineup. Even though the coaching staff knows that he has the physical capabilities, they probably felt that he just wasn't mentally ready for the role.

Keep in mind that up until late in the season, we were in a race for home field advantage, so it would not have made much sense to have an inexperienced player in the game no matter how raw his abilities were. Even when Owens went down, guys like Austin and Hurd still had more game experience than Stanback.

This year, barring injury, he will have a complete off-season camp that should have him more mentally prepared t play. I expect to see a lot of him in preseason games.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I can understand why the coaches kept him out of the receiving lineup. Even though the coaching staff knows that he has the physical capabilities, they probably felt that he just wasn't mentally ready for the role.

Keep in mind that up until late in the season, we were in a race for home field advantage, so it would not have made much sense to have an inexperienced player in the game no matter how raw his abilities were. Even when Owens went down, guys like Austin and Hurd still had more game experience than Stanback.

This year, barring injury, he will have a complete off-season camp that should have him more mentally prepared t play. I expect to see a lot of him in preseason games.

It's really hard to work in players who have not learned the offense, once you get into the season. You hear it every single year, Rookies need to get into camp if they want to have any hope to contribute during the season. In the mini camps, rookie camps and in training camp, that's when the bulk of the offense or defense is put in for the year. During the season, you don't really work on those kinds of things. You work on specific game plans for the opposition week to week. You also don't have the position coaches available to work with these players because there simply isn't enough time. As a result, they work on what they can to try and improve but much of what they do is watch and learn. A good off season can do wonders for Stanback. Basically, his injury forced him to miss his opportunity to get on the field, to some extent. This year, we will see.

 

[SMCowboy]

good lets put all our eggs into stanback, pacman, ball and mcfadden and see where that gets us when we could easily build for the future with 3 strong draft prospects....thats smart gm'g...go jerry

You make it sound like we have a bunch of holes that need to be filled in the next few years. But, lets see where we actually do have holes now or in the future:

QB: Drafting a backup for Romo wouldn't be bad, but that needs to be a late round pick anyway.

RB: We definately need help at RB. Although drafting McFadden to team with Barber would definately fill that hole. And that is IF we did get McFadden like you are afraid that we will.

WR: Adding a WR wouldn't hurt as TO is getting up in age, but we still have some solid depth at WR with Crayton, Sam Hurd, Isiah Stanback and Miles Austin. We do need to add a WR, but I would rather see one in the 2nd or 3rd round anyway, as 1st round WR's simply have WAY to high of a bust rate.

TE: We are set for a LONG time with Witten, Fasano, and Curtis all 25 or younger right now.

OL: Don't have much room to add an OL with Columbo, Adams, Davis, Kosier, Gurode, Free, Martin, McQuisten all in place, one late round OL is all we have room for at most anyway.

DE: We have Spears, Hatcher, Canty, Bowen, and Ratliff who can play DE as well already. Hardly room for another DE right now.

DT: Ratliff, and Tank Johnson pretty well keep the DT stop locked down.

LB: We are full with Ware, Ellis, Spencer, Burnett, Thomas, James, Ayodele, Carpenter

S: Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin, Pat Watkins, and Courtney Brown, a late round S wouldn't hurt, but we don't have money to add anouther early round S right now.

CB: We definately need to add a couple of DB's. If Alan Ball is looking as good as both Newman and Jerry Jones seem to think, then that will help alot. But adding one early round DB and one in the later rounds still wouldn't hurt.

Right now, I am seeing us having room for or needing:
2 CB's
1 S
2 RB's
1 OL
1 QB
1 WR

With 1 CB, 1 WR, and 1 RB being the only spots that need a first day quality prospect.

Except for WR, and CB this is a VERY young team with most starters being 25 or younger except for the OL which has mostly 28 to 30 year olds. But OL is a position where players routinely play into their mid to late 30's. This is not a team that even has a whole lot of holes. What we need is not quantity of players, but QUALITY of players.

 

[Hostile]

Lets not forget that Ray Sherman is a tremendous WR coach. that plays heavily on this as well.

I have such respect for Ray Sherman. Even moreso after seeing how his presence changed things last year. What a great hire.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You make it sound like we have a bunch of holes that need to be filled in the next few years. But, lets see where we actually do have holes now or in the future:

QB: Drafting a backup for Romo wouldn't be bad, but that needs to be a late round pick anyway.

RB: We definately need help at RB. Although drafting McFadden to team with Barber would definately fill that hole. And that is IF we did get McFadden like you are afraid that we will.

WR: Adding a WR wouldn't hurt as TO is getting up in age, but we still have some solid depth at WR with Crayton, Sam Hurd, Isiah Stanback and Miles Austin. We do need to add a WR, but I would rather see one in the 2nd or 3rd round anyway, as 1st round WR's simply have WAY to high of a bust rate.

I posted something on this not so long ago. I don't know that I can say that WRs have a higher bust factor or not. I'd have to see the numbers in relation to all positions but I am not in favor of using a 1st round pick on a WR. I would use a second round pick on one thou. I think TO and Crayton are safe. Hurd needs to show something IMO. Stanback is safe for at least another year. Miles probably has another year as well but who knows? Glenn is probably done. I think we need to invest in this postion as well.

TE: We are set for a LONG time with Witten, Fasano, and Curtis all 25 or younger right now.

I would agree.

OL: Don't have much room to add an OL with Columbo, Adams, Davis, Kosier, Gurode, Free, Martin, McQuisten all in place, one late round OL is all we have room for at most anyway.

This, I don't really agree with. To me, Kosier doesn't fit Houck's scheme well. I think that we could definatly upgrade this position. I also have concerns with Gurode and his ability to get the Shotgun snap down. I would either be in favor of taking a very good Guard prospect or a very good Center prospect and moving Gurode to guard if he can't over come his issues in the shotgun. If Albert were available, I would take him with a 1st round pick.

DE: We have Spears, Hatcher, Canty, Bowen, and Ratliff who can play DE as well already. Hardly room for another DE right now.

DT: Ratliff, and Tank Johnson pretty well keep the DT stop locked down.

I think we could use, either another DE or another NT. If Ratliff is used at DE, which is probably the more natural position for him, then I think we need to pick up another NT. If Ratliff is kept at NT, then I think we need to look at another DE. Bottom line, we need one of our DEs to show the ability to pass rush. We need another guy to bring pressure. Now, this could also come from the NT position because of Philips' scheme and in truth, it would probably be better if it were the NT who was bringing it but those players are kind of hard to find.

LB: We are full with Ware, Ellis, Spencer, Burnett, Thomas, James, Ayodele, Carpenter

Unfortunatly, we are too full at these positions. 3 year rule. Show me something or your gone. Ware, Spencer, Thomas and Ellis are all safe. James probably is as well but we need to look at that. Burnett might be gone. Ayodele is in a fight simply because he is not really producing much and he has a pretty big cap number. Carpenter has shown nothing much, thus far. If he doesn't show something this year, I think he's gone. He may be a 34 Will backer. May not be a 34 Linebacker. James is a solid player but he's a two down LB. We probably want a LB who will be on the field all the time. Especially now that the NFL is going to miked defenses. You need a guy who will be on the field all the time and it really should be one of your LBs imo. Kinda depends on who calls the line changes. Sometimes, it's a safety who does this but essentially, I think we need to look at ILB.

S: Roy Williams, Ken Hamlin, Pat Watkins, and Courtney Brown, a late round S wouldn't hurt, but we don't have money to add anouther early round S right now.

Roy is what he is. Regardless of what anybody thinks, his cap number makes it very unlikely that anything happens to him. I like Hamlin, I like Watkins and this may be the year he emerges at FS. If there is value at Safety in the draft, then I think we should take it. Whatever we do, we have to improve our over all speed and STs performance. That was horrible last year.

CB: We definately need to add a couple of DB's. If Alan Ball is looking as good as both Newman and Jerry Jones seem to think, then that will help alot. But adding one early round DB and one in the later rounds still wouldn't hurt.

If we sign PacMan, then I think we should only draft one very good CB prospect. If not, then we need to take a couple of them IMO. Doesn't matter to me. We need to bring in good young talent at this spot. Henry has issues staying healthy. Newman is coming up on a contract. Who knows what will be asked for and he's already hitting 30. He is going to need to be replaced. PacMan is one banana peel away from never playing in the NFL again. We need more talent here.


That's kinda how I see it.

 

[theebs]

I have such respect for Ray Sherman. Even moreso after seeing how his presence changed things last year. What a great hire.

Me too. I dont think he was alone though. I think Jason and John Garrett have a very calming personality. Throw in skip peete and it was a great mix. I think we finally have a stable and productive offensive staff, a franchise qb, a running back, a tight end and a couple of young wr.

I think all that means we are going to be all about offense this draft and maybe the next one too. This is the time to bring in young offensive talent. You have all the kinds of guys around them you want to learn and play behind.

We are really set up to be good for awhile on offense.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Remember this guy? No, it's not Damon Williams. Once upon a time, we signed an UDF who happend to play both QB and Flanker at the University of Tulsa. He too was a pretty raw but he eventually turned into one of the greatest WRs in the History of our franchise. There is a reason we gave 88 to Michael Irvin. It can happen.

We Drafted Montel Williams?!

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

We Drafted Montel Williams?!

Getting closer. :laugh2:

 

[sago1]

There's no way we draft an OT unless Houck has told Jerry that none of our young OTs (McQuistan/Free/Marten) will be viable starting OT & I really doubt that given how well Free seemed to play in preseason 07 while Adams rehabbing. In the meantime McQuistan is learning to play both OT positions & Marten supposedly was a disappointment in 07 preseason but time in our weight conditioning program should help both he and Free a lot.

Doubt we use a first round pick on Albert. I like OG Mike McGlynn out of Pitt who should go in 3rd/4th rounds. He can play both OG positions & Center.

Believe LG Kosier signed a 5 year deal with us in 05 so we've got him through 09 season. McGlynn could really challenge Kosier sooner then expected unless McQuistan (in the mix for OT when Adams departs??) gets chance for snaps at OG per plans last preseason. Now Marten didn't impress last year so if he doesn't look better after participating in our weight conditioning program this year, he could be moved to OG position; he played a lot of OG at Boston College before he was moved to OT.

Our OG backups right now are Procter & Berger; think both were also working at Center. Procter got his first game experience as Gurode's replacement in last 2 season games. He played okay but in DMN Albert Breer's analysis he said Procter wasn't able clear out the pocket so Romo could move around in it like he usually can.

 

[DeaconBlues]

We Drafted Montel Williams?!

:chainsaw:

Although that is funny. But still,

:chainsaw:

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There's no way we draft an OT unless Houck has told Jerry that none of our young OTs (McQuistan/Free/Marten) will be viable starting OT & I really doubt that given how well Free seemed to play in preseason 07 while Adams rehabbing. In the meantime McQuistan is learning to play both OT positions & Marten supposedly was a disappointment in 07 preseason but time in our weight conditioning program should help both he and Free a lot.

Doubt we use a first round pick on Albert. I like OG Mike McGlynn out of Pitt who should go in 3rd/4th rounds. He can play both OG positions & Center.

Believe LG Kosier signed a 5 year deal with us in 05 so we've got him through 09 season. McGlynn could really challenge Kosier sooner then expected unless McQuistan (in the mix for OT when Adams departs??) gets chance for snaps at OG per plans last preseason. Now Marten didn't impress last year so if he doesn't look better after participating in our weight conditioning program this year, he could be moved to OG position; he played a lot of OG at Boston College before he was moved to OT.

Our OG backups right now are Procter & Berger; think both were also working at Center. Procter got his first game experience as Gurode's replacement in last 2 season games. He played okay but in DMN Albert Breer's analysis he said Procter wasn't able clear out the pocket so Romo could move around in it like he usually can.

If Albert were there, we would be foolish not to strongly consider taking him IMO.

 

[EPL0c0]

The last caller on Late Hits (Sirius) last night inquired about Stanback to Gil Brandt. Gil got this kinda excited edge to his voice and gushed the following details/opinions...

1. He said he talks to Jerry frequently and recently. The last time they spoke, Jerry was excited about Stanback. He then corrected himself and said Jerry was REALLY excited about him.

2. Gil said he would not be surprised, based on his conversation with Jerry, if they didn't even skip WR in this year's draft (I doubt it).

3. He said, "If you have a fantasy football team next year, remember this guys name. He is really going to catch a few balls".

I tell you, this is so encouraging. I still really don't understand how he is going to be a big impact player next year, maybe ending the year as a nice #2, but it bodes well for the future!!

So far its all hype...I'll believe it when I see it

 

[CowboyManDan]

I just don't see how he goes from virtually no playing time at all to a large contributer. I think it's more realistic to see him become the #4 WR in traning camp and then if we're lucky, maybe he finishes the year battling for the #3 spot. But we should be happy if he takes any step forward, which being #4 would be.

 

[dcfanatic]

I never had Stanback's nuggets.

But I guess they are good because they are juicy and anything is better than those grease bags sold at McDonalds.

 

[The Rawhide Kid]

I never had Stanback's nuggets.

But I guess they are good because they are juicy and anything is better than those grease bags sold at McDonalds.

:laugh2: :laugh1:

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I want barbeque sauce with mine please.

Hope they taste like chicken.

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

Then why didn't we see him last year at all?

Secret weapon..........duh

 

[silverbear]

I never had Stanback's nuggets.

I have photos that say otherwise...

 

[ndanger]

I never had Stanback's nuggets.

But I guess they are good because they are juicy and anything is better than those grease bags sold at McDonalds.

I hear Colonel Sanders is very intrigued by his nuggets. Quite twitchy in fact.

 

[ndanger]

I have photos that say otherwise...

priceless....