RECAP: Norm Hitzges on our Roy Williams...

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nyc;2080477 said:
The thing you have to look at too is if you do cut him this year, you must sign another SS which takes even more cap space. We have other safeties on the team and even Henry can move there, but if we cut Williams now with Killa gone also, who do we have that can play SS? Nobody. Everyone else is closer to being FS rather than SS.

Don't a lot of people think we can just slide Hamlin over to strong safety, put Henry at free safety and be perfectly fine?
 

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stasheroo;2080483 said:
So, in your opinion, would you consider $4 million a year for a specialty player a good return on investment?

Do you consider a player who is on the field 94 percent of the time (plus some special teams) a "specialty player"?
 

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AdamJT13;2080473 said:
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2058228&postcount=1

Stewart was asked if adding a bunch of cornerbacks gives us the ability to take Roy off the field. He said yes, because you wouldn't do that if your third or fourth cornerback wasn't any good.

Notice the way the question was phrased:

Roy has struggled in coverage, with addition of these corners does that give you ability to take Roy off field?


Stewart wasn't just asked, if adding a bunch of cornerbacks gives the team the ability to take Roy off the field, but Stewart was asked this question in the context of Roy struggling in coverage. Did Stewart deny that Roy didn't struggle in coverage?

Maybe he was also being politically correct...
 

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superpunk;2080449 said:
Thank god we have more access to assistant coaches.

Soon special teams coach Jebediah Garrett will be out drinking with Newy Scruggs, and reveal that Tony Romo's voice is so bad, they let TO do the talking in the huddle.
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AdamJT13;2080507 said:
Don't a lot of people think we can just slide Hamlin over to strong safety, put Henry at free safety and be perfectly fine?

Didn't Stewart answer that question:

We like him at corner. He's done an excellent job at corner. He has all thos INTs despite missing time.

Maybe keeping Henry at CB outweighs the benefit of having him at safety and losing him at corner.
 

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khiladi;2080517 said:
Stewart wasn't just asked, if adding a bunch of cornerbacks gives the team the ability to take Roy off the field, but Stewart was asked this question in the context of Roy struggling in coverage. Did Stewart deny that Roy didn't struggle in coverage?

Why would he need to?
 

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khiladi;2080540 said:
Didn't Stewart answer that question:

Maybe keeping Henry at CB outweighs the benefit of having him at safety and losing him at corner.

And I agree with Stewart. A lot of other people don't.
 

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AdamJT13;2080485 said:
They did it only a few times per game, if that. Some teams never used it to target Roy. Often, they'd do it to get Roy out of the box -- spread the TE to the sideline and run up the middle.

Was it specifically to get Roy out of the box or was it deployed irrespective of who was the player? For example, you can pull a LB out of the box to run up the middle and that play may not be designed to target a specific LB, which means it is just a matter of circumstance.
 

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AdamJT13;2080544 said:
And I agree with Stewart. A lot of other people don't.

Which means they don't move Henry to FS because of Henry not Roy Williams.
 

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khiladi;2080548 said:
Because that is the very basis of the whole question.


I will try and find the audio of this interview because IR and Theogt both recapped it differently.

I believe though the question from norm to stewart was something along the lines of with all these corners will Roy Williams be taken off the field on passing downs.....he then as norm said today started to talk, paused and then said yes. Then he broke it down.

He essentially said that if one of the corners can play that lb spot roy played they probably will.
 

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khiladi;2080546 said:
Was it specifically to get Roy out of the box or was it deployed irrespective of who was the player? For example, you can pull a LB out of the box to run up the middle and that play may not be designed to target a specific LB, i.e. it is a matter of circusmtance.

You'd have to ask the opposing teams that hypothetical question. Because we never used anyone but Roy to go 1-on-1 with a split TE like that, they had to know that doing it would pull Roy out wide, too. Whether they would have done it if we had a different strong safety or used someone else to defend split TEs 1-on-1 is something only they know (if they even considered the possibility).
 

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theebs;2080554 said:
I will try and find the audio of this interview because IR and Theogt both recapped it differently.

I believe though the question from norm to stewart was something along the lines of with all these corners will Roy Williams be taken off the field on passing downs.....he then as norm said today started to talk, paused and then said yes. Then he broke it down.

He essentially said that if one of the corners can play that lb spot roy played they probably will.

Sweet...
 

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AdamJT13;2080561 said:
You'd have to ask the opposing teams that hypothetical question. Because we never used anyone but Roy to go 1-on-1 with a split TE like that, they had to know that doing it would pull Roy out wide, too. Whether they would have done it if we had a different strong safety or used someone else to defend split TEs 1-on-1 is something only they know (if they even considered the possibility).

So the hypothetical doesn't apply to you when you said:

Often, they'd do it to get Roy out of the box -- spread the TE to the sideline and run up the middle.

SO was it specifically to get Roy out of the box or was it specifically to get the SS out of the box? Do teams not run that same play when they are not playing against Roy and the Cowboys?
 

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I think Roy Williams played better than most people thought last year. Year before he played pretty bad. But I think he needs to be in the box more and this defense hasn't really done that. Really we haven't done that since Parcels was hired. I like the way he was used by Campo did before. That's one of the few good things you can say about the Campo era.
 

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khiladi;2080566 said:
So the hypothetical doesn't apply to you when you said:

Often, they'd do it to get Roy out of the box -- spread the TE to the sideline and run up the middle.

SO was it specifically to get Roy out of the box or was it specifically to get the SS out of the box? Do teams not run that same play when they are not playing against Roy and the Cowboys?

What difference does that make? They knew that splitting the tight end wide would take Roy with him.

When teams rush the passer against us, are they trying to sack Romo or are they trying to sack the quarterback? When teams cover Owens, are they trying to cover him or are they trying to cover the X receiver?

Does it even matter?
 
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