Recent picture of Jaylon Smith shows no brace

[Proof]

OT: look at a recent pic of canTANKerous Lawrence:

Man... *** this dude

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Notice the depth of dishonesty fuzzy quickly goes to.

In posts #134 & 137 he trumps up Todd Archer's claims that Jaylon was currently (as of January) running without a brace.

Then, after I educate him on the fact Archer went back and corrected himself and confirmed Jaylon indeed runs WITH a brace, fuzzy quickly pivots and tries to dismiss Archer's comments as old. You know, the very same comments he tried to stand on.

The hallmark of a charlatan.

This is more stupidity where you talk around my argument with an ad hominem and never address it. Charlatan indeed.

If he had been running without a brace for months prior to new years that would have been interesting.

Him running with a brace for months prior to new years is not interesting. Everyone knew he wore an AFO last year.

It's a different circumstance and sorry that my being wrong on a point doesn't make for an automatic win.

And I directly address your accusations. You ignore my post demonstrating how you have gone back and forth claiming that his nerve has and has not fired for months. Charlatan indeed.

 

[TheFinisher]

OT: look at a recent pic of canTANKerous Lawrence:

I never want to draft another Boise State player again

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I'm not a huge fan of fuzzy (not an insult just my feeling) but everyone in this thread should hope he's correct. Arguing so vehemently against a position we'd all like to be true is pretty foolish. Like... for what?

That's the thing. Nobody is arguing for the alternative. Folks are just catching on that fuzzy is talking out his arse, just because his claim is what we all want to see doesn't make it more palatable.

Let the evidence speak for itself and not twist the facts until it suits a narrative.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

This is more stupidity where you talk around my argument with an ad hominem and never address it. Charlatan indeed.

If he had been running without a brace for months prior to new years that would have been interesting.

Him running with a brace for months prior to new years is not interesting. Everyone knew he wore an AFO last year.

It's a different circumstance and sorry that my being wrong on a point doesn't make for an automatic win.

And I directly address your accusations. You ignore my post demonstrating how you have gone back and forth claiming that his nerve has and has not fired for months. Charlatan indeed.

Everyone except you, which is EXACTLY why you tried touting the bogus Archer tweets before you got corrected.

 

[diefree666]

I'm not a huge fan of fuzzy (not an insult just my feeling) but everyone in this thread should hope he's correct. Arguing so vehemently against a position we'd all like to be true is pretty foolish. Like... for what?

seems to be the need to be proven right in the end over rides all other considerations.

 

[Proof]

That's the thing. Nobody is arguing for the alternative. Folks are just catching on that fuzzy is talking out his arse, just because his claim is what we all want to see doesn't make it more palatable.

Let the evidence speak for itself and not twist the facts until it suits a narrative.

I get that, but feels like it puts you and others in the position of trying to will something negative into existence. You can argue against his logic/sources/position etc without taking the opposite stance. Just my opinion. Argh. Jaylon may be the biggest cowboys storyline since TO. So much hinging

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I never said anything about him being in the dark. That is you and Syd's assertion that I disavow. I am just saying he doesn't have enough information to make a decision thus him saying "we will see."

When do players return to the Star for offseason workouts this year?

I make no comment about the totality of his knowledge only his inability to come to a conclusion from it.

Him saying that he may or may not have to wear a brace is hardly contradictory with him not having enough information to make a decision at this time.

Quite frankly it's pretty stupid to claim that it is but good job in not thinking for yourself and regurgitating Syd's asinine argument.

So Stephen Jones apparently "doesn't have enough information to make a decision," but our resident message board "maroon" has somehow gathered enough evidence through fragmented quotes, extrapolations and photo sleuthing to dogmatically claim Jaylon Smith can lift his foot and doesn't need an AFO anymore.

Brilliant.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Starting to feel like an episode of Moonlighting.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I get that, but feels like it puts you and others in the position of trying to will something negative into existence. You can argue against his logic/sources/position etc without taking the opposite stance. Just my opinion. Argh. Jaylon may be the biggest cowboys storyline since TO. So much hinging

That's probably because he's purposely tried to turn it into a "us vs. them" dichotomy. If you disagree with his slanted takes you automatically get put into the "Jaylon haters" category.

I think most folks realize what's being argued, which is simply letting the facts/evidence speak for itself.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So Stephen Jones apparently "doesn't have enough information to make a decision," but our resident message board "maroon" has somehow gathered enough evidence through fragmented quotes, extrapolations and photo sleuthing to dogmatically claim Jaylon Smith can lift his foot and doesn't need an AFO anymore.

Brilliant.

Did Stephen Jones say the nerve had fired?

Did Albert Breer say that Jaylon had regained foot activation?

Do you have any evidence of an AFO from this year?

What's not brilliant is your claim that I got those takes from an extrapolation nor your idea that I am certain that he doesn't need an AFO. Like Stephen Jones I am interested to see.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Everyone except you, which is EXACTLY why you tried touting the bogus Archer tweets before you got corrected.

Archer making that statement would have been news. You are acting like the status quo is some sort of accomplishment.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's probably because he's purposely tried to turn it into a "us vs. them" dichotomy. If you disagree with his slanted takes you automatically get put into the "Jaylon haters" category.

I think most folks realize what's being argued, which is simply letting the facts/evidence speak for itself.

yeah it's my fault. I categorize people into hater/fan.

You are hung up on me but that is hardly my fault either. You are the one that give ad hominem after ad hominem avoid argument and abandon merit.

 

[Idgit]

yeah it's my fault. I categorize people into hater/fan.

You are hung up on me but that is hardly my fault either. You are the one that give ad hominem after ad hominem avoid argument and abandon merit.

Honestly, I read all these posts and am still confused what the debate actually is. Smith's nerve is firing, he's improving gradually. The team expects him to play regardless starting in OTAs, and there's a possibility he may not even need a brace to play at that point. That's all stuff everybody agrees is happening, right? Is the whole debate surrounding the pace to-date for shedding the brace/wearing a newer model/no brace at al?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Honestly, I read all these posts and am still confused what the debate actually is. Smith's nerve is firing, he's improving gradually. The team expects him to play regardless starting in OTAs, and there's a possibility he may not even need a brace to play at that point. That's all stuff everybody agrees is happening, right? Is the whole debate surrounding the pace to-date for shedding the brace/wearing a newer model/no brace at al?

They don't like me. That is basically it.

They insist that he must still need an AFO. I say it's very possible he doesn't. That is what it's ostensibly about.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

They don't like me. That is basically it.

Two things can be equally true:

1) You're a blathering bag of hot air;

2) People don't like you.

Don't make the mistake of thinking each is mutually exclusive.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

They don't like me. That is basically it.

They insist that he must still need an AFO. I say it's very possible he doesn't. That is what it ostensibly about.

You have been right on many occasions dealing with Jaylon and from the start

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

yeah it's my fault. I categorize people into hater/fan.

You are hung up on me but that is hardly my fault either. You are the one that give ad hominem after ad hominem avoid argument and abandon merit.

Oh please, smh.

I've exposed your blatant lies with posts, links and time/stamps.

You simply ignore the posts, repeat the claim and posture in victory.

You're like a cheaper message board version of Jersey Shore's: Gym, Tan and Laundry.

Folks have caught on.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Two things can be equally true:

1) You're a blathering bag of hot air;

2) People don't like you.

Don't make the mistake of thinking each is mutually exclusive.

Feel better now?

This is exactly what I am talking about regarding ad hominem after ad hominem in pace of meritorious argument.

I do think it interesting that people get worked up over me as is on display here. The tears of a clown make the whole world laugh.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Gotta put your guys on Jerry Springer.

Who cares til training camp, gosh.