Red Exploitation

[theebs]

Parcells made a better villain. The catch 22 was that the people who hated Parcells, and claimed that he was holding his coordinators back, also wanted to claim that the only reason Parcells ever had success was because of his coordinators.

Noone thinks enough of Wade to suggest that he is influencing Garrett at all, but the truth is he probably does.

he absolutely does, he is the head coach. This year I think it really became his team...I have no doubt he had plenty of say in what was happening.

this idea that they both have offices on the other end of the building and they only see each other on gameday or whatever is basically of the same ilk of what you said above about parcells and the coordinators.

its a good story and something to occupy time with on sports radio that wade has zero to do with the offense, but I cant imagine it is true at least not anymore. Maybe early on in 08 after the offenses play in 07, but I dont believe that to be the case in 09 at all.

It allows the fans who cant stand garrett and blame everything on him to have a talking point and it allows the media who are always looking to make wade phillips out to be a beverly hillbilly a good angle to use to jump wade.

 

[DFWJC]

Bud was a fun guy- kind of sad he lost 4 SBs.

Yep.
I guess you can give him credit for getting to more Super Bowls than almost any other coach. That is a great accomplishment in itself.

 

[Alexander]

norm also told the story about how Parcells thought Gary Gibbs should replace him as head coach! I guess that was as bad an idea as al groh replacing bill in NY, only jerry didnt do what parcells thought!!!

I would love to hear Hitzges' validation on this one.

Gibbs pre-dated Parcells (he was on-staff in 2002) and had just as many ties to Switzer and Jones as he did Parcells. He interviewed right before Norv Turner did three years ago, but that was about as serious as it got as far as I know. I certainly never saw anything that suggested Parcells was campaigning for him.

 

[theebs]

I would love to hear Hitzges' validation on this one.

He said he was told by a trusted person.

aka. the only guy parcells ever talked to while he was in Dallas was Pat Summerall.

Who is a friend of Pat Summerall's and who had him on the show constantly during parcells tenure...Norm hitzges.

I am just connecting the dots, but I cant imagine unless jerry or stephen told norm that, that it didnt come from summerall. And honestly, I wouldnt doubt jerry or stephen just told norm that, there is no harm in it. Parcells liked gary gibbs...not a big deal.

here is when he interviewed, so bill was still there.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1342897&postcount=1

 

[CF74]

Parcells made a better villain. The catch 22 was that the people who hated Parcells, and claimed that he was holding his coordinators back, also wanted to claim that the only reason Parcells ever had success was because of his coordinators.

Noone thinks enough of Wade to suggest that he is influencing Garrett at all, but the truth is he probably does.

Like trying to kick a fg on 4rth and one with a bad kicker or trying to run the ball 3 or 4 times in a row on multiple short yardage/goal line situations with a 2 or 3 TE, 1 WR set (One dimensional showing run,) instead of spreading it out with 3 or 4 WR's???

I remember hearing Wade say he decided we were going to stick with Barber over Felix towards the top of the season to...

 

[NextGenBoys]

Like trying to kick a fg on 4rth and one with a bad kicker or trying to run the ball 3 or 4 times in a row on multiple short yardage/goal line situations with a 2 or 3 TE, 1 WR set (One dimensional showing run,) instead of spreading it out with 3 or 4 WR's???

I remember hearing Wade say he decided we were going to stick with Barber over Felix towards the top of the season to...

At least he didnt chose Brad Johnson over Tony Romo like he did with Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie.

 

[CF74]

At least he didnt chose Brad Johnson over Tony Romo like he did with Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie.

Like that was ever a viable option or an idea:laugh2:

 

[DFWJC]

At least he didnt chose Brad Johnson over Tony Romo like he did with Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie.

lol
His problem with the Flutie deal was that he allowed ownership to force his hand. He wanted Flutie, they wanted Johnson. He maybe was the scapegoat either way...so he should have held his ground and stayed with Flutie (not that Johnson was all that bad either). Lost his job either way eventually.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

So I was listening to Sirius NFL Radio on the way home today and enjoyed a very interesting interview with Jim Caldwell. When asked his opinion of Sean Payton he said (& I loosely paraphrase) .

That made me wonder about Garrett. So let me wonder out loud. Do you think he has reached the level where his game planning includes exploiting weaknesses or do you think he is still at the level of just hoping the game plan he put together is a winner on Sunday? How deep do you think he has progresses in the weekly phase of planning for the big game?

Disclaimer #1: This is in no way, shape, or form meant to be a jab thread at Garrett.

Disclaimer #2: This is in no way, shape, or form meant to be a jab thread at Jerry for letting Payton walk.

Please discuss.

I think the majority of the issues on offense is POOR EXECUTION, not Garrett game planning or calling.

 

[Hostile]

I think the majority of the issues on offense is POOR EXECUTION, not Garrett game planning or calling.

Duck.

 

[CF74]

I think the majority of the issues on offense is POOR EXECUTION, not Garrett game planning or calling.

One could make an argument that execution, play calling, and coaching are synonymous...

 

[superpunk]

I think the majority of the issues on offense is POOR EXECUTION, not Garrett game planning or calling.

And the mouth-breathers screamed "BLUEPRINT".

 

[Hostile]

One could make an argument that execution, play calling, and coaching are synonymous...

I would like to see that one. Talk about nonsense.

 

[Doomsday101]

One could make an argument that execution, play calling, and coaching are synonymous...

Sometimes it is sometimes it is not. Coaches can't play the game for players.

 

[Arch Stanton]

I think the majority of the issues on offense is POOR EXECUTION, not Garrett game planning or calling.

This....

 

[craig71]

One could make an argument that execution, play calling, and coaching are synonymous...

MMMM........That statement could cause a range war......



Craig

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

One could make an argument that execution, play calling, and coaching are synonymous...

While I see where you are going. At the end of the day... "run the correct route", "block your man", etc etc... has nothing to do with playcalling or coaching. At some point you have to put it on the players.

 

[CF74]

I would like to see that one. Talk about nonsense.

Execution is a 50/50 proposition in the success of the play.

Play Calling is a 50/50 proposition in the success of the play.

Coaching is ultimately responsible for the two.


Do I need to explain further?

 

[Hostile]

While I see where you are going. At the end of the day... "run the correct route", "block your man", etc etc... has nothing to do with playcalling or coaching. At some point you have to put it on the players.

 

[Hostile]

Execution is a 50/50 proposition in the success of the play.

Play Calling is a 50/50 proposition in the success of the play.

Coaching is ultimately responsible for the two.


Do I need to explain further?

Yep, you do. It stops way short of actually being what you claimed.