Reminder: Michael Irvin on Tony Romo

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tunahelper;2957281 said:
I dont think Romo should go by any means, but to also compare Romo and Eli career progression is failed logic. Eli was not at the level Romo was after a couple years into their careers, yet Romo still commits idiotic plays that cost his team games. Is he is not learning from previous losses? Wha did he talk about all off season? Protecting the ball.

I am not overreacting to the loss this symptom showed up all last year and the year before. The OL played good and the running game was electric, somehow Romo could not manage consisent throws? He has not shown the ability to consisently play well against good teams in big games.
It must be proven now because benefit of doubt and young QB excuse is over.

Tell that to the homers.
 

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sk0aL;2957211 said:
As I see it, the problem most people as well as myself have with Tony is his inability to learn from his mistakes. He doesn't stop and think. When we were up by 4 and running the ball down the Giants throat, only to have him try to go for the homerun just killed us. We went from having a potential 11 point lead to down by 3. He just can't continue to make those gaffes.

Don't get me wrong, I love Romo and want him to succeed, but the fact this will be his 4th full season as a starter and he still makes rookie mistakes like that is what has a lot of people nervous.


Continuing to make the same mistakes is what concerns me. There was no need to throw that long pass. We had just scored, NYG could not move the ball and it looked like we were going to get more points on that drive. Then the INT.
 

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Jake Delhomme was 12-4 last year. I don't see any gm's clamoring for his services right now. Or even after last season.

Show me a head coach who wants a QB as inconsistent and turnover prone as Romo, and I'll show you a head coach who doesn't value his career.

I'm not an Owens apologist at all--I actually think his best days are well behind him--but Romo's erratic, flaky play will divide a lockerroom and shatter momentum/chemistry every bit as much as TO's whining. Probably more. Nobody likes to bust their arse, just to see the QB hand the ball over. Once every blue moon is tolerable, but not this frequently, and not in big games.

Also, the more he tries to be a pocket QB--or the more opponents force him into being one--the worse it gets. The worst part is that the Giants said this long before the game started, and even against a banged up secondary, Romo proved them right.
 

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I make no excuse for Romo nor did he made any excuses he took the full blame for the loss. The team played good enough to win but his mistakes were costly. The line gave him good protection and he flat out made some big mistake. So you pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get right back on the horse.
 

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Sure Tony had his turnovers, and gave the Giants points. But in the end he brought this team back and had a lead with 2 minutes to go. All the defense has to do is make one stop......one stop and game over.

Perhaps Tony is trying too hard, knowing this defense can't stop anyone. This defense parades around after every tackle, even if its 10 yards down the field. We have a highly over-rated shut down corner, who you can count on to get beat weekly by a no name reciever and at least one pass interference penalty.

No excuses for Tony, he played bad, but scoring 31 points in an NFL game should be a win. And Tony, after the game, stood up and took the blame. Where was Newman, did he take his share of the blame, how about the rest of the secondary?

We led the league in sacks last year! This year no sacks, no turnovers, and we can't stop anybody. All Tony's fault?
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2957186 said:
Agreed. He can make the big play, but will make the errant easy through and cost his team. Eli outplayed him with less to throw to. Pathetic. Obviously TO made Romo look good, not the other way around.

I personally don't want to make this about TO because that argument is so tired and it really turns me away from a thread nowadays. TO is in his own la la land right now. He no longer wears the star so I really couldn't care less about him.

That said, Romo needs to look within. Something is amiss. I fear it will keep him and our beloved Boys from reaching greater areas of success if he doesn't figure it out. Some blame from last night can be laid on the D.. Some can be laid on the HC.. Some can also be laid on the OC.. Oh, While we're at it, some can probably be laid on the non existent WRs too... The bottom line is Romo definitely takes his share of the blame away from last night. I'm barely hopeful anymore. It's excuse after excuse when it comes to defending Romo. It's not like we have a choice anytime soon anyway.. Romo is paid and happy. :banghead:
 

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I love it ,you actually have guys on this thread not blaming Romo. Wow! Comments like Romo led us down the field to take the lead when it was really Barber and Felix. If Romo doesn't turn the ball over its a blowout. He even admits it himself that he cost us the game but the Romonites defend there leader to the end.
 

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Goldenrichards83;2957444 said:
I love it ,you actually have guys on this thread not blaming Romo. Wow! Comments like Romo led us down the field to take the lead when it was really Barber and Felix. If Romo doesn't turn the ball over its a blowout. He even admits it himself that he cost us the game but the Romonites defend there leader to the end.
Point out one person in this thread doing that. I bet you can't do it.
 

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Hostile;2956790 said:
"I don't know anyone at anytime, especially in the NFL, who wouldn't take a quarterback who is 27-12 over 39 games," Irvin said. "Every coach, every GM, every owner would raise their hand and say, 'Give me that guy.' Give me that guy, that's the bottom line. I come through the airport and I have people come up to me and say, 'Do you think we should get rid of Romo?' I want to ground all the planes and get on the microphone and say, 'Are you people serious? Are you people serious? Stop it already. Will you stop with this mess? You are reading too much into the Jessica (Simpson) stuff.' "

Irvin, the Cowboys Hall of Fame receiver, went on to say that Romo didn't help his cause with his philosophical take after the Philadelphia flop last season.

"That being said, to be talking about getting rid of Tony is absolutely...Can we get Drew Bledsoe back out here just for a week, so you guys can fall back in love with Tony?" Irvin said. "Let's sign Drew Bledsoe back for a week. Because sometimes when you have a pretty girl for so long, you forget how pretty she is. But when you put an ugly girl next to her, 'Oh, no, I'm really doing well.' And maybe we need to bring Drew back, so we can back to 'Oh, no, we're really doing well.' Because 27-12 over the first 39, come on, guys."

But what about the fact Romo is 0-2 in the playoffs?

"At least you get an opportunity at a playoff win when you are 27-12. When you are 12-27, you don't even get the opportunity for a playoff win...You have a young guy, 39 games, that's not much experience, so you see there is a whole lot of room to get better. You got to give it time. These things were being said about (New York Giants quarterback) Eli (Manning) two years ago, and Eli went on and won a Super Bowl. No one says that now about him."

I understand that, I even agree with that, and I have supported romo. I just cant think of a big game (meaning a game that truly meant something) where he performed like that top rated, qb we see a lot of the time. 2 playoff games (giants game he didnt play that bad, but he wasnt great), ring of honor game against Commanders, last game in texas stadium, philly game to go to the playoffs. Dude is just careless. He plays ball like he lives life, footloose and fancy free.

PS..Dont quote irvin like he is the end all be all in your eyes b/c REMINDER: he thought T O should still be here, and you dont agree with that. Now, this is not a #81 should still be here, or not be here post, its a post simply saying Dont use mike as an authority only when it fits your agenda.
 

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thechosen1n2;2957461 said:
I understand that, I even agree with that, and I have supported romo. I just cant think of a big game (meaning a game that truly meant something) where he performed like that top rated, qb we see a lot of the time. 2 playoff games (giants game he didnt play that bad, but he wasnt great), ring of honor game against Commanders, last game in texas stadium, philly game to go to the playoffs. Dude is just careless. He plays ball like he lives life, footloose and fancy free.

PS..Dont quote irvin like he is the end all be all in your eyes b/c REMINDER: he thought T O should still be here, and you dont agree with that. Now, this is not a #81 should still be here, or not be here post, its a post simply saying Dont use mike as an authority only when it fits your agenda.
I'm not an Irvin fan. But when a man is right, he's right.
 

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I think Romo just needs to stop trying to do too much and relax a little bit. A check down, or throwing the ball away isn't going to hurt you as much as a turnover. I'm glad he stood up and took the blame, but all night it felt like something was off with him. I don't know what it was. It just seemed so weird.
 

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Hostile;2957450 said:
Point out one person in this thread doing that. I bet you can't do it.
theebs;2956867 said:
Romo and the turnovers have nothing to do with jenkins being lost, hamlin just being useless, newman absolutely falling apart right in front of our eyes and scandrick all of a sudden not tackling.

we were lucky the giants didnt pass more. We have a secondary full of players who appear to be overmatched, throw in carpenter's poor play and we could be looking at some really bad defense in the future.

Eli had two braindead plays tonight where we should have had picks and our guys couldnt make them.

Thats 1 what are you betting?
 

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Goldenrichards83;2957482 said:
Thats 1 what are you betting?
He isn't absolving Romo ace. He's pointing out other players who did not step up.

Swing and a miss.
 

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Hostile;2957488 said:
He isn't absolving Romo ace. He's pointing out other players who did not step up.

Swing and a miss.
Really? You told me to point it out I did. He's blaming the defense who played decent ball until late but you chop it up however you want. This game was all on Romo, period. He doesnt play the way he does this game is won fairly easily.
 
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Goldenrichards83;2957517 said:
Really? You told me to point it out I did. He's blaming the defense who played decent ball until late but you chop it up however you want. This game was all on Romo, period. He doesnt play the way he does this game is won fairly easily.


Dont mind the homers blindly defending their man.
 

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It's intriguing how everyone keeps dumping on the secondary. My God, the dline last night was brutal: beyond horrible. If they get avg. pressure we win the game: instead? nothing........................................bye wade: although I've said that the last two years and nothing has happened. However, his contract is finally up so............GOODBYE WADE.
 

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Its alot better having Romo here then the likes of Bledsoe...Leaf...Carter...etc.....but that shouldnt lower our expectations on our QB play.

I still expect more from our QB.....this team is hard pressed to overcome stupid mistakes and Romo makes his share of them.

What bothers me is that its the same type of mistakes.....forcing passes to WR's that are doubled covered......I was tired of hearing offense not Romo friendly....I was tired of hearing that Romo was FORCING passes to Owens....as excuses for his mistakes....or decision making.

I really like Romo.....but he really does have to make better decisions....and I dont know whats going on but Romo's accuracy getting worse......too many passes high...too many behind.
 

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You want to know why I'm sticking with Romo?

Because if the Cowboys were needing a field goal to win and getting the ball back with 2 minutes go, I think Romo would find a way to get those points. Even in a crappy game, I think he and his offense would have found a way to score. They always do. And they did it last night. Not many guys can do that.

I thought Romo had a horrible game last night. But he wasn't alone. And for the life of me, I can't understand why Cowboy fans have to be so specific with their hate. I can think of a ton of people to blame for losing last night, and Romo is only one of them.

Whatever happened to winning and losing as a team? Some of you guys talk a lot about not wanting "celebrities" on your team, but you make them that way by elevating them above the rest of the team when every player ought to be in this thing together.

The Cowboys lost. It took a team effort to lose that game ;)
 
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