Reminder: Michael Irvin on Tony Romo

[zrinkill]

Dont mind the homers blindly defending their man.

This coming from you is hysterical.

 

[Hostile]

Really? You told me to point it out I did. He's blaming the defense who played decent ball until late but you chop it up however you want. This game was all on Romo, period. He doesnt play the way he does this game is won fairly easily.

No you didn't. You absolutely did not point out what you claimed that I asked you to back up. Strike 2.

 

[Hostile]

You want to know why I'm sticking with Romo?

Because if the Cowboys were needing a field goal to win and getting the ball back with 2 minutes go, I think Romo would find a way to get those points. Even in a crappy game, I think he and his offense would have found a way to score. They always do. And they did it last night. Not many guys can do that.

I thought Romo had a horrible game last night. But he wasn't alone. And for the life of me, I can't understand why Cowboy fans have to be so specific with their hate. I can think of a ton of people to blame for losing last night, and Romo is only one of them.

Whatever happened to winning and losing as a team? Some of you guys talk a lot about not wanting "celebrities" on your team, but you make them that way by elevating them above the rest of the team when every player ought to be in this thing together.

The Cowboys lost. It took a team effort to lose that game

Which begs the question from me, why did we not call a couple of timeouts once they were in FG range to have some time on the clock?

 

[zrinkill]

Which begs the question from me, why did we not call a couple of timeouts once they were in FG range to have some time on the clock?

He had to save one to "freeze the kicker"

Of all the crap he has ever done ...... That bothered me the most and made me lose all respect for Wade.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

No you didn't. You absolutely did not point out what you claimed that I asked you to back up. Strike 2.

Yes I did but you will see it as you see fit too. Are we playing baseball? He's blaming the defense not Romo. Now yoiu answer something for me, if Romo doesn't turn the ball over the way he did do we win this game? Or is this strike 3 for me? I take it once I strike out I want be able to bat anymore.:laugh2:

 

[SultanOfSix]

Yes I did but you will see it as you see fit too. Are we playing baseball? He's blaming the defense not Romo. Now yoiu answer something for me, if Romo doesn't turn the ball over the way he did do we win this game? Or is this strike 3 for me? I take it once I strike out I want be able to bat anymore.:laugh2:

I think you're confused in believing that the idea that blaming others for their faults is absolving Romo of his mistakes.

Just because he mentioned that the defense played poorly doesn't mean he is absolving Romo for his mistakes, and I think that is what is the point. There was plenty of blame to go around yesterday.

 

[Hostile]

Yes I did but you will see it as you see fit too. Are we playing baseball? He's blaming the defense not Romo. Now yoiu answer something for me, if Romo doesn't turn the ball over the way he did do we win this game? Or is this strike 3 for me? I take it once I strike out I want be able to bat anymore.:laugh2:

No, he isn't. He's saying that Romo's failures have nothing to do with theirs. It really is not that hard to grasp.

 

[Hostile]

I think you're confused in believing that the idea that blaming others for their faults is absolving Romo of his mistakes.

Just because he mentioned that the defense played poorly doesn't mean he is absolving Romo for his mistakes, and I think that is what is the point. There was plenty of blame to go around yesterday.

That is EXACTLY what he is confused with.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

No, he isn't. He's saying that Romo's failures have nothing to do with theirs. It really is not that hard to grasp.

I saw a lot of guys making mistakes out there last night. Romo may have made them, but they were not nearly as frequent as other players on the field.

Bobby Carpenter, Flozell, Oscan and others were making quite a few. But let's hit the panic button because it was Romo and Wade's fault.

We played a good game, imo. We just had some tough breaks, which wouldn't even be talked about if we won the game. We'd be singing glory today rather than hitting the panic button.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

No, he isn't. He's saying that Romo's failures have nothing to do with theirs. It really is not that hard to grasp.

I said it in another thread. I will say it again. This group of guys on offense are fighters, they play for 60 minutes. After all the crap, some bad luck, some bad plays the offense had the ball with 7 minutes to go needing a touchdown. Romo hits witten on a huge third down and they go and score.

this offense always has its composure and it neve quits. Like the seattle playoff game for instance, romo not only led 1 drive to get us in scoring position, thanks to the witten fumble he actually did it twice in the fourth quarter.

the defense is handed a first and 20 and do not even force the giants to need 4th down to keep going. Its the same old same old. All the prima donnas are on defense, all the money, the head coach's specialty. And we lose with the defense on the field.

The secondary played a game tonight that looked straight out of dave campo's playbook via the late 90s and early 00's.

as long as the offense has to account for the defense they will be aggressive and take chances. And chance is a horrible game to play.

Righttttttttt! He's really laying it thick on the guy who we all know cost us this game. The secondary had it problems but they actually kept us in the game in making the Giants settle for field goals. Where the blame for Romo?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I haven't lost faith in Romo. I still think he's a darn good QB.

 

[Hostile]

Righttttttttt! He's really laying it thick on the guy who we all know cost us this game. The secondary had it problems but they actually kept us in the game in making the Giants settle for field goals. Where the blame for Romo?

I already understand that you do not get it. I'll bet you a buck that if you ask theebs if Tony Romo is blameless for the loss last night (that is what absolve means) he will agree with me and disagree with you.

Yes, he is defending the guy, but he is not absolving him as you claimed. No one is.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

I already understand that you do not get it. I'll bet you a buck that if you ask theebs if Tony Romo is blameless for the loss last night (that is what absolve means) he will agree with me and disagree with you.

Yes, he is defending the guy, but he is not absolving him as you claimed. No one is.

So I don't sgree with you and you try to insult me like I don't know what absolve means. I get it. Didn't know we couldn't agree with eachother without trying to make the other look like he's ignorant. No prob. I know the rules now. Thanks.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

Yes, he is defending the guy, but he is not absolving him as you claimed. No one is.

Maybe I should of said defend him. How can anyone defend this guy from lastnight? How?

 

[The Great Number 8]

I'll start by saying I'm as mad as anyone that we lost.

I don't know how the players can handle the pressure to play. Last week, Romo finally got it - 350+ yards, no bad throws TDs everywhere, Roy Williams showed hed's the next TO, and for the love of all that's good in the world the Cowboys should give up on that overpaid first round pick and just play Scandrick. My how things change in a week.

The only thing I take away is that we had 4 turnovers, no sacks, terrible bounces, gave away the middle of the field to Steve Smith and the Giants - the media favorite to win the East - still needed a last second field goal to be us. A lot of what happened can be corrected.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

He had to save one to "freeze the kicker"

Of all the crap he has ever done ...... That bothered me the most and made me lose all respect for Wade.

Whatever will Wade do without that respect!?!?!

He was trying to win the game by any means neccessary. Was it a "chump" call? Maybe? But he was trying to win. And for that I give him credit for having a pulse.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

But he had a bad game, so he must go.

Well, it was more than a bad game. He clearly cost Dallas the game. Even with the troubles in pass coverage on defense, his turnovers cost Dallas 14 points.

And if that's a bad game, then it should not be noted as a singular event by any means because he's had plenty of these games.

Irvin is the same guy that raved about Owens and still wants him here in Dallas, so people that pick and choose statements from Irvin lose a bit of credibility. My feeling is that we have talent on this team and it's still rather young. I am convinced that Romo is never the answer to win a playoff game for Dallas unless he proves otherwise (even though that's hardly my hopes as a fan for a team with 5 Super Bowl trophies). So I think we are better off trading the guy that every GM wants for some veteran players and draft picks and get a new QB that will probably take a year or 2 to develop into the type of QB we need.



YAKUZA

 

[Hostile]

So I don't sgree with you and you try to insult me like I don't know what absolve means. I get it. Didn't know we couldn't agree with eachother without trying to make the other look like he's ignorant. No prob. I know the rules now. Thanks.

That isn't what is happening at all.

 

[Hostile]

Maybe I should of said defend him. How can anyone defend this guy from lastnight? How?

And the light comes on.

 

[newlander]

I agree alot that what happened CAN be corrected "great number 8") just not by Wade or this staff: it's the same crap, different game. They can't correct it because they don't know how IMHO.,.....