Report: Cowboys negotiating with Rolando McClain

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It's ok Ro just let this season be your break-out year, all-pro honors and then take us to the bank. We'll be glad to go on that ride. And you have it in you. BEAST. Never forget it those of you who want to give up on him. He's gonna prove you all wrong.
 

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So what you're saying is Lee got more money to sign his name a few years ago then we'd be giving Ro hypothetical in total for this coming year?

Exactly my point. Don't judge contracts based on current year salary.

Sean Lee is averaging 7 million a year. Even if you remove the last two years as fake years. It still averages around 7.

They don't owe Lee any more money, they don't owe McClain any more money. I am comparing what they will be paying going forward. Whatever Lee and McClain made in the past is irrelevant.

The choice is do they pay Lee another 5.5m over the next 2 years or not. If they do they expect him to start.

The can also choose to pay McClain but they have already filled most of the LB spots, giving him 7m with all his issues and the lack of a market for him would be asinine.
 

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They don't owe Lee any more money, they don't owe McClain any more money. I am comparing what they will be paying going forward. Whatever Lee and McClain made in the past is irrelevant.

The choice is do they pay Lee another 5.5m over the next 2 years or not. If they do they expect him to start.

The can also choose to pay McClain but they have already filled most of the LB spots, giving him 7m with all his issues and the lack of a market for him would be asinine.

Cutting Lee would actually reduce the cap this year verses than keeping him on the roster.
 

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Cutting Lee would actually reduce the cap this year verses than keeping him on the roster.


It's not about the cap. Getting Lee back makes us a lot better.

At this point, getting McClain back makes us marginally better.

Hitchens-Brinkley-Lee is a solid unit with Rivers, Watson, Gachkar, Wilber, Smith, Lawrence as back up

McClain would bump Brinkley to the bench in the base
Nickel would still be Hitchens-Lee
 

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medically they would separate the concussions and grade each one.

That's absolutely false. Perhaps they might even be forced to say that's what happens. But we all know the truth. He never recovered and went back in too early.
 

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That's absolutely false. Perhaps they might even be forced to say that's what happens. But we all know the truth. He never recovered and went back in too early.

exactly he came back too soon and sustained another concussion. I am not sure how your not able to make the connection.
 

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It's not about the cap. Getting Lee back makes us a lot better.

At this point, getting McClain back makes us marginally better.

Hitchens-Brinkley-Lee is a solid unit with Rivers, Watson, Gachkar, Wilber, Smith, Lawrence as back up

McClain would bump Brinkley to the bench in the base
Nickel would still be Hitchens-Lee

You missed my point. Lee's money's virtually guaranteed because cutting him the next two years actually hurts the cap in that year verses paying him.

Also LOL at bringing McClain back only marginally improves our defense comment.

Was that a joke?
 

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He had a 40m contract with OAK and played so inspired he got cut after 3 years.

You forgot to mention the 23 million dollars of guaranteed money that he already had coming to him. He had no motivation in Oakland, with guaranteed money, a horrible team and being on the west coast. Not sure why all the hate for a guy that clearly turned this defense around.
 

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It's not about the cap. Getting Lee back makes us a lot better.

At this point, getting McClain back makes us marginally better.

Hitchens-Brinkley-Lee is a solid unit with Rivers, Watson, Gachkar, Wilber, Smith, Lawrence as back up

McClain would bump Brinkley to the bench in the base
Nickel would still be Hitchens-Lee

LOL!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHA!!!!!!

2013 Ware, Hatcher, Hayden, Selvie, Durant, Lee, Carter, Scandrick, Carr, Church, Wilcox
2014 Mincey, Crawford, Hayden, Selvie, Durant, McClain, Carter, Scandrick, Carr, Church, Wilcox

They had the same team minus two pro bowlers and went from worst to respectable. Proof is right in front of you as to who makes us a LOT better.
 

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McClain exposed Sean Lee for the reactive small LB he is , not to mention terribly overpaid.

Bruce Carter picked up the slack as well in the int dept , letting him go and McClain and keeping Lee is a disaster beyond words .

Throw in the pro bowl play of Durant as well.

The brass got too caught up in Murray an let good players walk .

But hey at least we have Sean Lee , everyone likes him , " warrior " type - I'm sure he'll give us 9 good games .
 

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You forgot to mention the 23 million dollars of guaranteed money that he already had coming to him. He had no motivation in Oakland, with guaranteed money, a horrible team and being on the west coast. Not sure why all the hate for a guy that clearly turned this defense around.

I have no hate for the guy, but when Getting Paid = No Motivation, I have no desire to give him guaranteed money either.
 

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It's not about the cap. Getting Lee back makes us a lot better.

At this point, getting McClain back makes us marginally better.

Hitchens-Brinkley-Lee is a solid unit with Rivers, Watson, Gachkar, Wilber, Smith, Lawrence as back up

McClain would bump Brinkley to the bench in the base
Nickel would still be Hitchens-Lee

Bringing back Mclain makes us marginally better? Tell me your not serious with this comment.:facepalm:
 

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McClain exposed Sean Lee for the reactive small LB he is , not to mention terribly overpaid.

Bruce Carter picked up the slack as well in the int dept , letting him go and McClain and keeping Lee is a disaster beyond words .

Throw in the pro bowl play of Durant as well.

The brass got too caught up in Murray an let good players walk .

But hey at least we have Sean Lee , everyone likes him , " warrior " type - I'm sure he'll give us 9 good games .

I disagree w a lot here. Durant and carter were paid significantly in free agency we wereNt paying them that. Carter has been up and done his whole career. He didn't deserve the contract he received.
 

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That's absolutely false. Perhaps they might even be forced to say that's what happens. But we all know the truth. He never recovered and went back in too early.

Hate to call anyone out, but the ORIGINAL POSTER, is accurate. My experience as a Youth coach, even if the player was released too early and the original concussion did not completely heal or body fully recovered, the next brain scan will show 2 concussions and that is why is it so important to just "sit-out" and not play again. Personally, my friend's son went through a string of concussions from Youth to 9th grade football. He has become a "test study" at the University for concussion studies. The original poster is accurate.
 

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McClain exposed Sean Lee for the reactive small LB he is , not to mention terribly overpaid.

I seem to remember that Lee's contract had a bunch of incentives and/or injury clauses. I'm sure AdamJT could clarify, but I think he missed out on several million dollars this season by missing a lot of time the past 2 years.
 

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I disagree w a lot here. Durant and carter were paid significantly in free agency we wereNt paying them that. Carter has been up and done his whole career. He didn't deserve the contract he received.

Agree with you. I like McClain and hope he comes back at a reasonable price. If he is healthy and motivated, he is a great football player. Lee is motivated, just needs to remain healthy. Lets not forget that Lee I believed had the most int for a LB a few years ago. Picked off Peyton Manning twice in the same game if I recall correctly.
 

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You missed my point. Lee's money's virtually guaranteed because cutting him the next two years actually hurts the cap in that year verses paying him.

Also LOL at bringing McClain back only marginally improves our defense comment.

Was that a joke?
LOL!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHA!!!!!!

2013 Ware, Hatcher, Hayden, Selvie, Durant, Lee, Carter, Scandrick, Carr, Church, Wilcox
2014 Mincey, Crawford, Hayden, Selvie, Durant, McClain, Carter, Scandrick, Carr, Church, Wilcox

They had the same team minus two pro bowlers and went from worst to respectable. Proof is right in front of you as to who makes us a LOT better.

Bringing back Mclain makes us marginally better? Tell me your not serious with this comment.:facepalm:

Not joking at all. I don't know what McClain centric universe you guys live in.

I said at this point.........We already have Brinkley, Hitchens and Lee to play the Mike.....that is what McClain does best.....

He is not great in coverage and would come off the field in Nickel anyways.....We are talking about getting reps in the base D which is around 50% of the snaps.....he is not much better than Brinkley and a lot less reliable in that run stuffing role....HENCE marginally better...

Last year he saved our bacon when Lee got hurt and nobody believed in Hitchens, but this isn't last year
 

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I said at this point.........We already have Brinkley, Hitchens and Lee to play the Mike.....that is what McClain does best.....

Well Hitchens can play all 3 positions at a relatively high level supposedly, and Lee is supposedly a good match for SLB. But a battle between Brinkley and McClain for MLB would be cool to see.
 

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Not joking at all. I don't know what McClain centric universe you guys live in.

I said at this point.........We already have Brinkley, Hitchens and Lee to play the Mike.....that is what McClain does best.....

He is not great in coverage and would come off the field in Nickel anyways.....We are talking about getting reps in the base D which is around 50% of the snaps.....he is not much better than Brinkley and a lot less reliable in that run stuffing role....HENCE marginally better...

Last year he saved our bacon when Lee got hurt and nobody believed in Hitchens, but this isn't last year

You think Brinkley and McClain are comparable talents? LOL

That's a joke. McClain is a catalytic type player. Brinkley has not shown that ability.

Also are we ready to ignore that Brinkley is 4 years older and was a 5th round talent verses McClain being a 1st?

Also are we ready to ignore that McClain CAN play well in the nickel role while Brinkley cannot?Given the health of Lee isn't that worth... you know... A lot?
 
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