RGIII is the best QB in the NFL.....Per RGIII

[NIBGoldenchild]

Shanahan as right. I will go with 2 time Super Bowl winning coach over the "ordinary diva" .... Any and every day.

You will still trust Shanahan, only because he's won two SBs, but ignore that his own statements over the years contradict themselves and he's a proven liar?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

As if you didn't know we weren't talking about his specific comments and not his entire career. But hey, any chance to insult the guy is a good one, right?

Ok. Let's roll it back a bit...

The way he is.
The way he plays has NOTHING to do with the media and how they treat him.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You will still trust Shanahan, only because he's won two SBs, but ignore that his own statements over the years contradict themselves and he's a proven liar?

I trust that he knew RGIII wasn't coachable.

You have a very expensive and costly Quincy Carter.... We went through it... Now you guys are. Enjoy! Lol

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

I trust that he knew RGIII wasn't coachable.

You have a very expensive and costly Quincy Carter.... We went through it... Now you guys are. Enjoy! Lol

I'd say he's learning to be coachable. His biggest mistakes in his pro career was listening to his father instead of his coaches. His father was the one that filled his head with the nonsense that he was ready to be a pocket passer in his second season. About the only thing that Shanahan has said about Griffin that I believe, is the story that Griffin called a private meeting with Mike and Kyle and demanded certain plays no longer be called. And that Griffin was offended that Kirk was being called different plays in the playbook( Kyle's old Houston offense) when he played against Cleveland.

But accepting all of that means you also have to accept the role Shanahan played in getting them to that point, and that is something Shanahan never does. Whenever he makes mistakes, it's always someone else's fault. Bruce Allen wanted McNabb....he wanted Bulger(would've been just as disastrous). He didn't want to give up the picks for Griffin, Allen did. Yet why did you go along with it when you contractual forced Snyder to give you full control over personnel decisions. It doesn't make sense.

He refuses to understand that drafting Cousins caused the lack of trust issues between Griffin. His lack of communication skills further worsened the situation. If you make questionable moves and never explain why, you leave people to come up with their own explanations.

Quincy Carter never had a season like 2012, don't really see the comparison. And did he ever lead your team to the playoffs?

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Quincy Carter never had a season like 2012

i.e. If RGIII is a has been, QC is a never was.

I expect a rough season in DC


Of all things, can you believe Garrett may be the most secure NFCE coach? Gruden is on the hot seat, Coughlin might get forced retirement, and Kelly's moves better work.[/quote]

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I'd say he's learning to be coachable. His biggest mistakes in his pro career was listening to his father instead of his coaches. His father was the one that filled his head with the nonsense that he was ready to be a pocket passer in his second season. About the only thing that Shanahan has said about Griffin that I believe, is the story that Griffin called a private meeting with Mike and Kyle and demanded certain plays no longer be called. And that Griffin was offended that Kirk was being called different plays in the playbook( Kyle's old Houston offense) when he played against Cleveland.

But accepting all of that means you also have to accept the role Shanahan played in getting them to that point, and that is something Shanahan never does. Whenever he makes mistakes, it's always someone else's fault. Bruce Allen wanted McNabb....he wanted Bulger(would've been just as disastrous). He didn't want to give up the picks for Griffin, Allen did. Yet why did you go along with it when you contractual forced Snyder to give you full control over personnel decisions. It doesn't make sense.

He refuses to understand that drafting Cousins caused the lack of trust issues between Griffin. His lack of communication skills further worsened the situation. If you make questionable moves and never explain why, you leave people to come up with their own explanations.

Quincy Carter never had a season like 2012, don't really see the comparison. And did he ever lead your team to the playoffs?

Most of this post details how he was uncoachable.

His most recent comments of:

RGIII: If they want me to be ordinary, that’s what I’ll be


Sound like wha to you?


In his third season, under newly hired head coach Bill Parcells, Carter retook the starting role, bringing stability to thequarterback position. He led the Cowboys to a 10-6 record and a playoff appearance.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Griffin's problem is Griffin. Given his performance on the field and just how often he has inserted his foot into his mouth these last few seasons, it is amazing that he still throws out stuff like this.

 

[Sarge]

How can RGIII be the best QB in the league when Eli Manning wants to be the highest paid QB in the league?

 

[casmith07]

Given his injury history I'm not sure about the first part but I definately agree with the 2nd.

Yeah, true.

 

[irishline]

Quincy Carter never had a season like 2012, don't really see the comparison. And did he ever lead your team to the playoffs?

In three seasons with the Cowboys Carter was 16-15 as a starter and led them to the playoffs one season.

In three seasons with the Commanders Griffin is 14-21 as a starter and led them to the playoffs one season.

Given that the talent level of those two teams was about the same (Dallas had three straight 5-11 seasons before making the playoffs in 2004), I am not sure that is a glowing endorsement of RGIII is it?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

In three seasons with the Cowboys Carter was 16-15 as a starter and led them to the playoffs one season.

In three seasons with the Commanders Griffin is 14-21 as a starter and led them to the playoffs one season.

Given that the talent level of those two teams was about the same (Dallas had three straight 5-11 seasons before making the playoffs in 2004), I am not sure that is a glowing endorsement of RGIII is it?

It doesn't even reach endorsement level. 2 less wins... 6 more losses.

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

In three seasons with the Cowboys Carter was 16-15 as a starter and led them to the playoffs one season.

In three seasons with the Commanders Griffin is 14-21 as a starter and led them to the playoffs one season.

Given that the talent level of those two teams was about the same (Dallas had three straight 5-11 seasons before making the playoffs in 2004), I am not sure that is a glowing endorsement of RGIII is it?

Pretty sparse with your selection of statistics. Let's look a little deeper.

Griffin has thrown 40 TDs in that timeframe, Carter only threw 29. Yet Carter threw 3 more INTs. Griffin also threw for more yards, had a higher yards per attempt, a higher completion percentage, BASICALLY A HIGHER EVERYTHING except interceptions. And to add, Griffin was a ROY. So no, they aren't comparable but thanks for trying.

 

[DallasInDC]

Pretty sparse with your selection of statistics. Let's look a little deeper.

Griffin has thrown 40 TDs in that timeframe, Carter only threw 29. Yet Carter threw 3 more INTs. Griffin also threw for more yards, had a higher yards per attempt, a higher completion percentage, BASICALLY A HIGHER EVERYTHING except interceptions. And to add, Griffin was a ROY. So no, they aren't comparable but thanks for trying.

Truth be told, RGIII is much closer to Quincy than he is to being the best QB in the league.

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

Truth be told, RGIII is much closer to Quincy than he is to being the best QB in the league.

I don't disagree.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Pretty sparse with your selection of statistics. Let's look a little deeper.

Griffin has thrown 40 TDs in that timeframe, Carter only threw 29. Yet Carter threw 3 more INTs. Griffin also threw for more yards, had a higher yards per attempt, a higher completion percentage, BASICALLY A HIGHER EVERYTHING except interceptions. And to add, Griffin was a ROY. So no, they aren't comparable but thanks for trying.

Yes. I looked at the numbers a few days ago.

Leading their respective teams. Quincy drove the bus better. As a leader, which is what is primarily in question.

Quincy > RGIII

 

[NIBGoldenchild]

Yes. I looked at the numbers a few days ago.

Leading their respective teams. Quincy drove the bus better. As a leader, which is what is primarily in question.

Quincy > RGIII

That is ludicrous, but as a Cowboys fan, I'm not surprised you believe it.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

That is ludicrous, but as a Cowboys fan, I'm not surprised you believe it.

No, I'm serious.

For a while, a short while. Quincy had his cowboys coach and his teammates believing.

RGIII has let it be known that's it HIM. Team is not with him. A coach has yet to be with him... Believing in him.

Think about it.

 

[gambit187]

He is on the turf now being attended to. He has been sacked 2 or 3 times....3 fumbles (2 lost)..and hit like 2-3 times.....

 

[1fisher]

He is on the turf now being attended to. He has been sacked 2 or 3 times....3 fumbles (2 lost)..and hit like 2-3 times.....

Yep....he looks terrible!

 

[Tabascocat]

How long before he comes out and says that his O-Line doesn't like him and misses blocks on purpose?