Rich Eisen, Give Dak fewer throws that he has to make and fewer moments where Dak has to be the guy

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It's not less responsibility. A quality run game helps manage football games. This is the case at every level. Aikman had that. Staubach had it. Plus they both had defenses. They didn't just carry those teams. Seems to be a pretty big misconception around here.
Less responsibility - less opportunities to decide where the ball should go - is exactly what Rich is recommending. You might not like it, but it is.
 

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Simplifying the scheme is one thing that got us screwed in the playoffs. Simple plays called repeatedly get figured out by defenses late in the season. Philly could tell you the same story.
 

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Less responsibility - less opportunities to decide where the ball should go - is exactly what Rich is recommending. You might not like it, but it is.


It's not somehow a knock on the QB to be able to run the football. What he's suggesting is what most Super Bowl caliber teams already have.
 

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It's not less responsibility. A quality run game helps manage football games. This is the case at every level. Aikman had that. Staubach had it. Plus they both had defenses. They didn't just carry those teams. Seems to be a pretty big misconception around here.
To compare those guys with Dak should be a one week ban. For whatever talent they had around them they made plays when it mattered and the players around them knew that they would.

Dak completely falls apart in the playoffs. Even discounting this season last two years all he had to do was make a couple of plays late in the game like Roger and Troy would have. So please take that excuse somewhere else
 

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To compare those guys with Dak should be a one week ban. For whatever talent they had around them they made plays when it mattered and the players around them knew that they would.

Dak completely falls apart in the playoffs. Even discounting this season last two years all he had to do was make a couple of plays late in the game like Roger and Troy would have. So please take that excuse somewhere else


Im not comparing QBs but to pretend those guys teams weren't completely stacked in comparison to this one is comical. Roger and Troy had HOF level players at many different areas on the team. Were you watching the Packer game? You see a team close to any of those championship teams? They made plays and had other players also make plays. That's how championship teams work. But somehow asking a RB to make a play is frowned upon around here.
 

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Simplifying the scheme is one thing that got us screwed in the playoffs. Simple plays called repeatedly get figured out by defenses late in the season. Philly could tell you the same story.
Most teams run the same plays I don’t know why folks act like teams have 100000 plays or something.
 

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Very odd that people think the QB should be enough based on salary while other areas just aren't very good. No doubt Prescott has to be better but so does everything else including the run game which really has been terrible. You want to win playoff games, the rushing attack is equally important.
Not when you give Dak all the money.
 

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Im not comparing QBs but to pretend those guys teams weren't completely stacked in comparison to this one is comical. Roger and Troy had HOF level players at many different areas on the team. Were you watching the Packer game? You see a team close to any of those championship teams? They made plays and had other players also make plays. That's how championship teams work. But somehow asking a RB to make a play is frowned upon around here.
Who said they were as good as the 70s and 90s Super Bowl teams? You're moving the goalposts. Dak gets 50 million to "make a play". At times in his career he's had peak RB, great Oline, solid #1 WRs, and top ball hawking defenses. He's done NOTHING with it other than beating mostly bad teams and choking in playoffs.

If you want the team with HOFers at every other position than we sure don't need to pay him and make him the centerpiece.
 

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Pretty pathetic when the Cowboys are being advised to tone down QB1's throws to just those he can make. Wow, I don't believe I've ever seen this about a Cowboys QB before, especially one that's getting resigned to a huge deal.
 

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In other words...A dominate defense..... :facepalm:Mahomes didn't score the whole 2nd half and only 17 the first half. Yet...still won....yet he's considered the goat or one of them. Dak scored just 17 in a playoff game...he'd be killed for it. Mahomes gets away with it because he has a defense.
 
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In other words....our 2 goals this off-season should be:

1) put training wheels on the bus to help the bus driver not wrap the bus around a tree every January

2) resign said bus driver (who needs training wheels) to a 60 million a year contract that hamstrings us for the next decade.

Noyce !
 

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That video is Jerty's hair morphing into Al Davis Jr
 

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Pretty pathetic when the Cowboys are being advised to tone down QB1's throws to just those he can make. Wow, I don't believe I've ever seen this about a Cowboys QB before, especially one that's getting resigned to a huge deal.
It's like we have to force fit the guy no matter what instead of just moving on. It's crazy
 

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In other words...A dominate defense..... :facepalm:Mahomes didn't score the whole 2nd half and only 17 the first half. Yet...still won....yet he's considered the goat or one of them. Dak scored just 17 in a playoff game...he'd be killed for it. Mahomes gets away with it because he has a defense.
Please tell me you're not comparing Dak and Mahomes
 

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Not when you give Dak all the money.


Yeah but it runs much deeper than just the QBs salary. There's been plenty of foolish decisions by the front office over the years. They basically ignored DT for the longest time. overpaid RB. Some draft picks are head scratchers, they'll draft backup positions and special teamers early. The 2nd round strategy is a complete mystery.

Yes Daks salary is a hinderance but so is Jerry and his offspring. The team could be in better shape than it is. FA... They've done 'OK' in the McCarthy era but it was pretty much a joke before that. Plus the "we like our guys" routine? That list of poor decisions goes on and on even when Dak was on his rookie deal.
 

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Please tell me you're not comparing Dak and Mahomes
I'm just saying the best quarterback in the league and maybe EVER. Went a whole half without putting a point on the board. People in here are mad at Dak when the defense gave up 38. Jerry and some fans want Dak to be Superman. Your defense gets dragged up and down the field non stop. GB only punted like once. "maybe -once" what did people expect Dak to do???? Our offense had the ball two more minutes then GB did. Yet they had 38. At least Dak brought us back. Calore yards or not. At 5 minutes of the game. You still had a chance. Could of been driving for the winning TD "IF" your defense had just made 2 stops. Yet. It was ,Dak. Dak played bad but as GB defense proved against Purdy-38 point's. Game OVER!!!! No matter what Dak does.
 

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Yeah but it runs much deeper than just the QBs salary. There's been plenty of foolish decisions by the front office over the years. They basically ignored DT for the longest time. overpaid RB. Some draft picks are head scratchers, they'll draft backup positions and special teamers early. The 2nd round strategy is a complete mystery.

Yes Daks salary is a hinderance but so is Jerry and his offspring. The team could be in better shape than it is. FA... They've done 'OK' in the McCarthy era but it was pretty much a joke before that. Plus the "we like our guys" routine? That list of poor decisions goes on and on even when Dak was on his rookie deal.
Who was the one responsible for Dak's high salary?? JERRY!!!!!!!! Jerry could of signed Dak 2 years earlier for a song. But ole Jethro thought he could screw Dak and Dak screwed him. Now somebody tell me I'm lying.. So you want to blame anybody for "all" that money Dak is making. Blame Jethro Jones. Not Dak :facepalm:
 

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Who was the one responsible for Dak's high salary?? JERRY!!!!!!!! Jerry could of signed Dak 2 years earlier for a song. But ole Jethro thought he could screw Dak and Dak screwed him. Now somebody tell me I'm lying..


Another poor decision which is just par for the course around here.
 

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I'm just saying the best quarterback in the league and maybe EVER. Went a whole half without putting a point on the board. People in here are mad at Dak when the defense gave up 38. Jerry and some fans want Dak to be Superman. Your defense gets dragged up and down the field non stop. GB only punted like once. "maybe -once" what did people expect Dak to do???? Our offense had the ball two more minutes then GB did. Yet they had 38. At least Dak brought us back. Calore yards or not. At 5 minutes of the game. You still had a chance. Could of been driving for the winning TD "IF" your defense had just made 2 stops. Yet. It was ,Dak. Dak played bad but as GB defense proved against Purdy-38 point's. Game OVER!!!! No matter what Dak does.

To top it off the Chiefs D held the Ravens to 10 points in a playoff game on the road. That is impressive regardless of what's happening at QB.
 

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Another poor decision which is just par for the course around here.
My point exactly...Dak was ready to sign the deal. Ole Jethro said' I'm gonna make you prove it" Hoping Dak sucked so he could pay him even less. Dak played great and here we are,.. So, That's why I'm not mad at Dak at all really. Anybody in here in the same position as Dak goes out and proves himself and gets paid. Jerry was the one who caused Dak to become a 60 million dollar quarterback. Not Dak!! Only thing I can ask of Dak now is to get it going in the playoffs. Regular season he's been a killer in 13 or 14 of the games.
 
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