Romo 2014 or Dak 2023

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Who do you think had a better season. Both were peak years that could have won MVPs but got beat out by the narrative. Dak gets his chance to do what Romo couldn't do and beat the Packers. I'm going with Dak he has been lights out.

Romo - 3705 yards 34 TDs 9 Ints
Dak - 4516 yards 36 TDs 9 Ints
Dak is a better qb, a better leader….it’s not even debatable anymore.
 

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Romo and in reality it isn't even close. Huge factor many people overlook is the defense. The D back in 2014 was terrible, guys off the street, not even Sean Lee was playing compared with Prescott having an elite top 3-5 defense backing him up including the soon to be Defensive Player of the Year.

The Cowboys also had a signature win in 2014 - Romo made several clutch throws to overcome the special teams giving the Seahawks 14 points. He also had several excellent wins coming from behind and the victory over a Lions' excellent defensive front 7 in the Play Offs was impressive as well.

Prescott has a nice easy game to start vs the Packers then heavy favs at home vs The Lions. He will be judged by how he plays against the 49ers. Will it be third time lucky?
The Lions game where the refs picked that flag up lol Romo would've been one and done again. Anyone who says it isn't close doesn't know football
 

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For 2014 Romo, QBR was 79.2, and his QB rating was 113.2. Both #1 in the league. His EPA was 49.2, 4th in the league behind Brady, Brees and Rodgers.
For 2023 Prescott, 72.6(#2), and his QB rating was 105.9(#2). His EPA was 57.0 Tops in the league

In 2014 the offense was about the run game and feeding the play action pass off the run. Our best defense that year was TOP
In 2023 the run game was non existent, and they had to throw it to extend drives.

Dak did a great job this year not being too conservative but keeping the INTs down. Teams knew the threat was just from the pass.

We've seen Romo and Dak have high INT years when being too aggressive and not have and efficient run game.
We've seen now Dak have a great year while keeping the INTs down with a pass first offense.

To me, it just comes down to which QB style you prefer. Both have their pros and cons. Romo could buy more time in the pocket but was a gunslinger and could force an errant pass.
 

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The Lions game where the refs picked that flag up lol Romo would've been one and done again. Anyone who says it isn't close doesn't know football
The same play off game where the Lions got away with a clear roughing the kicker penalty that completely changed the game...What a disgusting hater you are not supporting your own team. You come across as an odious individual and clearly not a Dallas Cowboys fan.

Compare the quality of teams that the Cowboys beat in 2014 and 2023. Did Prescott beat a team like the Seahawks in 2014? Legion of boom with the home crowd yet Romo put them to the sword.

Jordan Love just had 32 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. I watched several games and he looked ok but due to the modern game including rules favouring quarterbacks, his stats make him appear like an elite QB when he really isn't at this stage in his career.
 

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The same play off game where the Lions got away with a clear roughing the kicker penalty that completely changed the game...What a disgusting hater you are not supporting your own team. You come across as an odious individual and clearly not a Dallas Cowboys fan.

Compare the quality of teams that the Cowboys beat in 2014 and 2023. Did Prescott beat a team like the Seahawks in 2014? Legion of boom with the home crowd yet Romo put them to the sword.

Jordan Love just had 32 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. I watched several games and he looked ok but due to the modern game including rules favouring quarterbacks, his stats make him appear like an elite QB when he really isn't at this stage in his career.
Jordan Love>>>Romo ...you come off as a Romo fan than a Cowboys fan, if Dak finishes his career with only wildcard wins, no way in hell would I prop him up as some great QB like y'all do Romo
 

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Dak was much better. Romo got to lean on a dominant run game. Dak had to make it happen.
 

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Romo and in reality it isn't even close. Huge factor many people overlook is the defense. The D back in 2014 was terrible, guys off the street, not even Sean Lee was playing compared with Prescott having an elite top 3-5 defense backing him up including the soon to be Defensive Player of the Year.

The Cowboys also had a signature win in 2014 - Romo made several clutch throws to overcome the special teams giving the Seahawks 14 points. He also had several excellent wins coming from behind and the victory over a Lions' excellent defensive front 7 in the Play Offs was impressive as well.

Prescott has a nice easy game to start vs the Packers then heavy favs at home vs The Lions. He will be judged by how he plays against the 49ers. Will it be third time lucky?
Give me a break. Romo had the most dominant run game in the league. Our line was mauling everyone. Defense wasn't a factor because the run game kept them off the field. Trash post.
 

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Romo let his first born down by going 8-8, Dak will take his to the NFC championship game
 

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Give me a break. Romo had the most dominant run game in the league. Our line was mauling everyone. Defense wasn't a factor because the run game kept them off the field. Trash post.
please.

Romo > Dak the same way that Purdy > Dak and will finish higher in mvp voting and be second team all pro.
 

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please.

Romo > Dak the same way that Purdy > Dak and will finish higher in mvp voting and be second team all pro.
Yall give Dak hell about the playoffs and Romo was always worse. Revisionist history at its finest. All Dak has done is make you look stupid. No running game and he's still led the most productive offense in the league. I thought Kellen Moores exit was supposed to expose Dak? What happened there? Zeke made him right? Wrong again. He just keeps proving you wrong, but keep doubling down. It's funny watching how stupid his naysayers look.
 

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Give me a break. Romo had the most dominant run game in the league. Our line was mauling everyone. Defense wasn't a factor because the run game kept them off the field. Trash post.
"Defense wasn't a factor"

Are you actually being serious?

When the Cowboys needed a stop against the Packers with Rodgers hobbling around on one leg after the powers that be decided Dez Bryant failed to make a catch...they failed miserably. Did you also forget Murray fumbling away a TD in the first half?

Prescott has had a dominat run game in previous years and still fell flat on his face.

He has an elite defense to bail him out covering up all those three and outs he has had against good teams.

Let's see how Prescott gets on against the 49ers - the Ravens and Jackson exposed them in a proper beatdown, if Prescott is the MVP then surely it should will be easy pickings?
 

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Yall give Dak hell about the playoffs and Romo was always worse. Revisionist history at its finest. All Dak has done is make you look stupid. No running game and he's still led the most productive offense in the league. I thought Kellen Moores exit was supposed to expose Dak? What happened there? Zeke made him right? Wrong again. He just keeps proving you wrong, but keep doubling down. It's funny watching how stupid his naysayers look.
Keep on topic. We are talking about Dak’s 2023 vs Romo’s 2014.

You mentioned Dak having no running game therefore his season was better. The thing is, Purdy is having the exact type of season Romo had in 2014. He has a dominant running game but he still put up monster numbers and insane efficiency.

Purdy will get more mvp votes most likely and be an all pro. So whatever criteria you are using to rate Dak’s season over Romo’s is nonsense
 

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Cowboys lost to the Cardinals...mind you the Packers have been suffering injuries to all their best players. That Lions team was nothing. They may have almost beaten us but they shouldn't have. I mean maybe they were better my point was they were the same caliber. Lions were not favorites to win anything just like the Packers aren't. Was a young team at the time. Some parallels. Cowboys had no business barely squeaking by them.
You could be right. You made some good points. I'm just remembering an 11-5 Lions team back then, and they had Megatron and Stafford. These Packers have what? But when I think about it, that 2014 Cowboys D sucked. The offense kept them off the field most of the game. Detroit didn't exactly put up a lot of points. I think Today's Cowboys would stomp them.
 

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Jordan Love just had 32 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. I watched several games and he looked ok but due to the modern game including rules favouring quarterbacks, his stats make him appear like an elite QB when he really isn't at this stage in his career.
I don't know why more people can't understand that volume statistics have been rendered somewhat moot. Teams evaluate the QB by how efficient he is. What did he do with the situations he faced. Not by his raw numbers.
Modern statistics make most journeyman QB's appear to be better than the legends of the game (by a large margin). You would think that would clue some folks in.
 

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So you are saying the Dak bashers were wrong when they said Dak was a below average QB and Zeke was the reason he played well in 2016?
I don’t think anyone claimed Dak’s performance was “below average”, because it obviously wasn’t. What most people said is he functioned more as a bus driver and relied on the running game with Zeke and the offensive line than being the reason for success.

Another point to make about comparing the 2023 running game vs 2014. That is a moot point since they were different offenses, the former a West Coast one where the short passing game serves partially as a running game, whereas the latter was a pro-set one.
 
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Lol exactly. Anytime I ask a Romo supporter what makes Romo so superior to Dak, literally none have any evidence to back up their claims or completely ignore the question. They all go off the eye test maybe Dak is not "quarterbacky" enough
I agree with you and it's such an interesting phenomena that Dak is so disliked and Romo was so heralded. Dak has already broken many franchise records including some of Romo's.

Another thing is Romo doesn't have the playoff wins to be in the ROH, but we all know the fuhrer is putting Romo in. Will a ROH invitation be extended to Dak if he never wins another playoff game (still puts him one playoff win ahead of Romo)? It's a double standard.
 

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The strength of pass defense data just came out and confirmed what we knew.

I love the season Dak had, but Dallas faced the easiest pass-defense schedule in the entire league on average.
32nd most difficult.

As I said in the other thread....he did what good QBs are supposed to do by lighting those suckers up.
 

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I agree with you and it's such an interesting phenomena that Dak is so disliked and Romo was so heralded. Dak has already broken many franchise records including some of Romo's.

Another thing is Romo doesn't have the playoff wins to be in the ROH, but we all know the fuhrer is putting Romo in. Will a ROH invitation be extended to Dak if he never wins another playoff game (still puts him one playoff win ahead of Romo)? It's a double standard.
He's already passed Romo in playoff appearances, and he's only 5 wins away in passing Romo in regular season wins
 
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