Romo looking to become King of the Road

[Dat Dude]

Montana averaged more turnovers per playoff game than Romo has.

And I guess you don't believe that those 23 games Montana started in would skew the ratio?

 

[Vintage]

And I guess you don't believe that those 23 games Montana started in would skew the ratio?

Actually, it would more accurately reflect things.

Because with 23 playoff games, it lessens the impact of an anomoly (both positive and negative).

 

[dallasfaniac]

And I guess you don't believe that those 23 games Montana started in would skew the ratio?

The more games you play the more accurate the ratio would be IMO. If Romo had 21 more playoff games, I'm sure he will have produced much better numbers than he has up to this point.

 

[stilltheguru]

In Montanas first playoff game his team scored 38 points. If Romo does that in any playoff game he wouldn't get questioned the way he does and the mention of Montana in this thread wouldn't look AS silly.

 

[21Savage]

So Romo has a great road record, led the league in 4th quarter QB rating last year (and has been among the tops for his career), yet he can't win big games or handle the pressure

 

[Hostile]

I didn't bring Eli Manning into the thread. And now, Joe freaking Montana.

:laugh2:

I asked a question about Eli Manning. Perhaps you don't remember the hype about the Giants on the road in 2007. How they only lost one road game (to Dallas in week 1) and how Eli was a road warrior. Hence why I asked. Lo and behold Romo to this point is way ahead of Eli the road warrior.

Does everything go over your head, or just football?

 

[Q_the_man]

hopefully this is the year

PS: i have been saying that every year since BP arrived

I have been saying that every year..

 

[AdamJT13]

In Montanas first playoff game his team scored 38 points. If Romo does that in any playoff game he wouldn't get questioned the way he does and the mention of Montana in this thread wouldn't look AS silly.

How could Montana NOT be mentioned in this thread, when he's the guy Romo would surpass if we win Sunday?

It's the Romo detractors who turned it into a let's-compare-playoff-games thread, as if any of Romo's regular season accomplishments are null and void until he wins the Super Bowl.

 

[dallascowboyfanboy]

I don't think I've seen it mentioned yet, but if we beat Denver this week, Tony Romo will move past Joe Montana for the best road winning percentage by any starting quarterback during the Super Bowl era (minimum of 15 starts).

Romo is 15-5 on the road, a winning percentage of .750. Montana was 61-20 (.753). A win in Denver would put Romo at .762.

The only other quarterback with a road winning percentage better than .667 during the Super Bowl era is Tom Brady, who is 42-14 and has a home game this week.

Also consider the types of offenses Romo plays in and Montana played in. I would be surprised if Montana's average yards per throw is more than 5.0 The West coast offense was based on dink and dunk passing game and the occasional 8 yard slant that Rice would take for 15-20 yards. I am sure Romo's average is close to 8 yards per throw. Those 30+ TD passes to T.O were medium to deep passes.Romo has taken more chances deep in his short career than Montana probably did his entire career. He's taken more chances and those can cause a QB to lose a game.

 

[Angus]

that just tells me that we have aready squandered 3 years with a very good team. great road teams should win championships. hopefully we win one this year.

thanx for making me sick adam

Maybe you were sick to begin with.

 

[Randy White]

Also consider the types of offenses Romo plays in and Montana played in. I would be surprised if Montana's average yards per throw is more than 5.0 The West coast offense was based on dink and dunk passing game and the occasional 8 yard slant that Rice would take for 15-20 yards. I am sure Romo's average is close to 8 yards per throw. Those 30+ TD passes to T.O were medium to deep passes.Romo has taken more chances deep in his short career than Montana probably did his entire career. He's taken more chances and those can cause a QB to lose a game.

Montana was NOT a " dink and dunk " QB, and neither was Bill Walsh's west coast offense. That's just a myth generated from the fact that they liked to involve their RBs, FBs, and TE's in the passing game than just about any other type offense, but in reality they used the entire field.

Joe Montana ( career ):

Yards Gained per pass attempt = 7.5 ( career low: 6.5 ) ( career high: 9.5 )
Yards Gained per pass completion = 11.9 ( career low: 11.0 ) ( career high: 13 )

I'm not counting his first two years in which he started a combined 8 games, or 1992 in which he started only 1 game.

 

[THUMPER]

How could Montana NOT be mentioned in this thread, when he's the guy Romo would surpass if we win Sunday?

It's the Romo detractors who turned it into a let's-compare-playoff-games thread, as if any of Romo's regular season accomplishments are null and void until he wins the Super Bowl.

That's pretty much all I hear from some on this forum. Post some facts about what he has accomplished and all they can come back with is "but he hasn't won a playoff game" as if nothing else matters in the universe!

You don't even get to the playoffs without having success in the regular season people and once you get there you face the best teams. That means that the entire team has to step up and in our case that hasn't happened.

 

[wileedog]

You don't even get to the playoffs without having success in the regular season people and once you get there you face the best teams. That means that the entire team has to step up and in our case that hasn't happened.

I'll never get why this is so hard to understand.

 

[BBWC]

:laugh2:

I asked a question about Eli Manning. Perhaps you don't remember the hype about the Giants on the road in 2007. How they only lost one road game (to Dallas in week 1) and how Eli was a road warrior. Hence why I asked. Lo and behold Romo to this point is way ahead of Eli the road warrior.

I just read a stat that said Eli Manning has gone 18-4 (.818) on the road since 2007, and this included playoff victories.

If Eli wasn't forced to play so early in his career on sub-par teams, like say Romo, this discussion would probably look a lot different.

All in all I'd say this stat is pretty meaningless considering the small sample size.

 

[JBond]

A home game they will
undoubtedly lose..

You sound like a glass half full type.
/sarcasm

 

[Benny Blue Boy]

Thank you. I wonder if any news outlet will pick up on this if we win?

I doubt it.

Oh they will mention it on ESPN I would almost guarantee. They love their stats, maybe they'll even break out his wins by month in the process....but they'll touch on it.

 

[jay cee]

Did not take long at all.

Yeah, I thought you were crazy. I almost responded to tell you that there was no way someone could come up with anything negative on this thread.

 

[skinsscalper]

'Disparity' is an inequality between two things.

'Disparagement' is what some may accuse this post of being toward Romo. But your point is well taken.

Yes, I know what disparity is. The inequity is in the number of games played by both.

I could make a claim that Mark Sanchez is the greatest QB ever to grace the planet because his win % is .1000 compared to Joe Montana's blah, blah blah. See? It's silly.

Now, a more valid argument (or claim) would be to compare Romo's numbers to Montana's at the same point in their careers (i.e. games played). Until then, Mark Sanchez is the greatest QB in the history of the world, and Romo can quit now and prep for the Hall of Fame.

 

[Bleu Star]

I don't think I've seen it mentioned yet, but if we beat Denver this week, Tony Romo will move past Joe Montana for the best road winning percentage by any starting quarterback during the Super Bowl era (minimum of 15 starts).

Romo is 15-5 on the road, a winning percentage of .750. Montana was 61-20 (.753). A win in Denver would put Romo at .762.

The only other quarterback with a road winning percentage better than .667 during the Super Bowl era is Tom Brady, who is 42-14 and has a home game this week.

:cheers: The road swing couldn't have come at a better time. It's time to enhance the focus.

 

[AdamJT13]

Yes, I know what disparity is. The inequity is in the number of games played by both.

I could make a claim that Mark Sanchez is the greatest QB ever to grace the planet because his win % is .1000 compared to Joe Montana's blah, blah blah. See? It's silly.

Now, a more valid argument (or claim) would be to compare Romo's numbers to Montana's at the same point in their careers (i.e. games played). Until then, Mark Sanchez is the greatest QB in the history of the world, and Romo can quit now and prep for the Hall of Fame.

You're mistaking holding a record with being the best. Romo wouldn't be the best ever if he wins Sunday, he'd merely hold the record for best road winning percentage among quarterbacks with at least 15 road starts. Just as Sanchez isn't the greatest QB ever, he merely has the best winning percentage among quarterbacks with at least three career starts (or possibly tied with others).

By the way, since you asked, Montana went 14-6 in his first 20 road starts. He lost his next two road games. So Romo is ahead of Montana after the same number of road games, and he will remain ahead of him for at least two more road games.