Romo "leading" the league in interceptions

[Chuck 54]

Not really.
Loft that ball a little longer and Murray is off to the races.
The fact that he had about 1 second to pull it all just may have come into play.

And if he always throws ints and worst times, how is it that he had som nay 4th quarter comeback wins last year?
You guys only remember the negatives....it's as if all of those game-winning drives never happened.

Romo's my man. We need to ride him till he's done, but facts are facts...despite stats, he has not gotten the job done yet, and he does make mistakes in the biggest games. Some say he should know better as a veteran and know when to throw the ball away and punt and when to take a sack.

I feel certain I saw Aikman throw away more passes out of bounds and short of the receiver intentionally and collapse and accept more sacks to either move to the next play or punt and move to the next series in one season than I've seen from Tony in his career.

Yes, escapability and extended plays, yadda yadda yadda, but some of us are still waiting for the more mature Tony Romo who will surrender, give up on a play or series, and live to adjust on the sidelines and play another day, so to speak, rather than make a mistake that hurts the team.

 

[perrykemp]

Teams like the Packers and Saints just keep on throwing. It is pretty remarkable that Brees could have that many touchdowns in a "down" year, but make no mistake Brees did not have a great year and hurt his team in many games.

True about Brees and the Saints, not true about the Packers. One of the most amazing stats about Aaron Rodgers is that he doesn't actually throw the ball that much.

In 2012 he ranked 10th in the NFL in passing attempts and in 2011 when he had 45 TDs, he only ranked ranked 16th in passing attempts. The Packers run the ball a lot more than you'd think (16th in rushing attempts last year) -- they just suck at it. In the case of Rodgers, his 3.7 to 1 TD/Int ratio is truly indicative of his play up to this point in his career.

 

[KB1122]

He led the league in interceptions. It's a fact.

 

[DFWJC]

True about Brees and the Saints, not true about the Packers. One of the most amazing stats about Aaron Rodgers is that he doesn't actually throw the ball that much.

In 2012 he ranked 10th in the NFL in passing attempts and in 2011 when he had 45 TDs, he only ranked ranked 16th in passing attempts. The Packers run the ball a lot more than you'd think (16th in rushing attempts last year) -- they just suck at it. In the case of Rodgers, his 3.7 to 1 TD/Int ratio is truly indicative of his play up to this point in his career.

Rodgers is preposterously effecient.

 

[Fletch]

In any case, Romo would be the first to tell you that he had too many picks last year. It was mostly due to the poor start in the first half of the season. He and the WRs were not on the same page. Plus both the Bears and Giants games in Dallas were disasterous. Other than that, and the week 17 Washington game, it was not out of hand.

Both he and the team would be much better if he was not the sole source of offense. You can't pass all the time and also not have an oline to cover your tail. It's a recipe for failure in most cases.
Romo is very good, but he is not Brady or Rodgers, imo.

Could be of that caliber if he had an O-line. Yep, I just went there.

 

[SWG9]

Could be of that caliber if he had an O-line. Yep, I just went there.

No he couldn't. Romo can be very good but he's just not in Rodgers' league. No shame in that since very few people are.

 

[ringmaster]

Not really.
Loft that ball a little longer and Murray is off to the races.
The fact that he had about 1 second to pull it all just may have come into play.

And if he always throws ints and worst times, how is it that he had som nay 4th quarter comeback wins last year?
You guys only remember the negatives....it's as if all of those game-winning drives never happened.

I agree and that is why I disassociate myself from any Cowboys fan who willfully ignore these facts.

 

[Idgit]

Could be of that caliber if he had an O-line. Yep, I just went there.

I don't think he could. I do think he could be Brees-good, though, which is huge praise in itself.

 

[Nova]

To make my point another way (your way, thank you):

2011 Team INT: 1 int every 45.4 attempts
to Robinson: 1 int every 40.5 attempts
to everyone else: 1 int every 46.4 attempts

2012 Team INT: 1 int every 34.5 attempts
to Ogletree/Beasley/Harris: 1 int every 13.1 attempts
to everyone else: 1 int every 50.1 attempts

Nice breakdown.

A question... is the 'everyone else' category skewed by Witten? Or is it pretty consistent/no dramatic drop off?

 

[percyhoward]

Nice breakdown.

A question... is the 'everyone else' category skewed by Witten? Or is it pretty consistent/no dramatic drop off?

Witten's numbers are consistent with the "everyone else" numbers. In fact, they're actually not quite as good. There was an INT once every 48.7 targets to Witten.

There was an INT only once every 68.5 targets to Dez, and he had by far the most deep targets of any Cowboy.

 

[ufcrules1]

Rodgers is preposterously effecient.

Rodgers is who Romo should try to model his game after. Rodgers is terrific at protecting the ball. If something is not there, he goes down in the fetal position quick to protect the ball. You can tell his main goal is to protect the ball and then strike when the opening is there. He is extremely patient and will take sack after sack and then burn you when you make one mistake. Extremely proficient.. and that is without a run game and with a crappy Oline too.

 

[mmillman]

don't watch the other teams much but do watch every cowboy game.

First, Romo was under almost constant pressure. From the right side and up the middle.

The line put Romo under additional pressure by jumping offsides all the time, resulting in 2nd or 3rd and long situations too frequently.

Romo did throw untimely picks when protecting leads or in the redzone when a FG would have probably won the game.

 

[DFWJC]

don't watch the other teams much but do watch every cowboy game.

First, Romo was under almost constant pressure. From the right side and up the middle.

The line put Romo under additional pressure by jumping offsides all the time, resulting in 2nd or 3rd and long situations too frequently.

Romo did throw untimely picks when protecting leads or in the redzone when a FG would have probably won the game.

Yeah, Romo was under contant pressure in the very worst way. It's somewhat mircaulous that he didn't miss any games. I think his worst injury came in the final Washington game, but even then, those ribs were badly bruised but I don't think they were cracked.

No denying that he did have a weird start to last year. After lighting up the Giants in week one, it got pretty rough there for a few weeks. Everything seemed way out of synch with the offense.

Can't recall Romo throwing any picks while protecting a lead or in the endzone last year though. Probably just my slective memory.

 

[Ren]

19 picks is way to much regardless of how many Brees threw

 

[Idgit]

19 picks is way to much regardless of how many Brees threw

Any idea how the picks stack up when adjusted for the number of attempts?

 

[perrykemp]

Rodgers is who Romo should try to model his game after. Rodgers is terrific at protecting the ball. If something is not there, he goes down in the fetal position quick to protect the ball. You can tell his main goal is to protect the ball and then strike when the opening is there. He is extremely patient and will take sack after sack and then burn you when you make one mistake. Extremely proficient.. and that is without a run game and with a crappy Oline too.

I'd <like> to say he should model his game after Rodgers, however, I wonder if that style can work for anybody other than Rodgers.

I honestly don't know what to think of Rodgers sometimes -- has there ever been an "elite" QB in NFL history so willing to eat the dirt and take sacks? It's beyond logical comprehension that the quarterback who is being sacked more than any other QB in the NFL is also the guy leading the league in passing rating. Best I can tell -- I've never seen another QB play in this way.

I suspect some of it has to do with Rodgers coming up under most careless "elite" QB in NFL history in Favre -- a guy who never wanted to give up on a pass and constantly threw interceptions.

I just wonder if it is possible for someone in the back half of their career, like Romo, to adopt that philosophy.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

19 picks is way to much regardless of how many Brees threw

Brees also threw almost twice as many TD's, so that kind of helps his case a bit.

It may be the different offense Brees runs, but i don't think even with a good OL, Romo could put up the numbers or be as effecient as Brees is. Just a different kind of QB.

 

[ufcrules1]

I'd <like> to say he should model his game after Rodgers, however, I wonder if that style can work for anybody other than Rodgers.

I honestly don't know what to think of Rodgers sometimes -- has there ever been an "elite" QB in NFL history so willing to eat the dirt and take sacks? It's beyond logical comprehension that the quarterback who is being sacked more than any other QB in the NFL is also the guy leading the league in passing rating. Best I can tell -- I've never seen another QB play in this way.

I suspect some of it has to do with Rodgers coming up under most careless "elite" QB in NFL history in Favre -- a guy who never wanted to give up on a pass and constantly threw interceptions.

I just wonder if it is possible for someone in the back half of their career, like Romo, to adopt that philosophy.

Quite honestly, I think it is too late in his career. Also, my issue with Romo is it seems he never learns from his past mistakes. We see the same issues just about every year. Won't take the sack when necessary, Won't throw the ball away, throws off back foot, makes dumb assumptions, doesn't protect the ball, audibles with 5 seconds on the clock, etc etc. Not sure how that is going to change all the sudden with a 33 year old QB.

 

[Ren]

Any idea how the picks stack up when adjusted for the number of attempts?

To be perfectly honest i don't care, 19 picks is to much

I'm sure in your mind you've put some spin on it to make 19 picks awesome though

 

[DFWJC]

To be perfectly honest i don't care, 19 picks is to much

I'm sure in your mind you've put some spin on it to make 19 picks awesome though

Yep.

19 is too much. I'm sure Romo would back you up on that one.

I'll take 2011's effeciency and roll with that.