Romo "leading" the league in interceptions

[Idgit]

To be perfectly honest i don't care, 19 picks is to much

I'm sure in your mind you've put some spin on it to make 19 picks awesome though

You probably are sure, since you probably also don't pay any attention to anything critical I say about the team because I spend a lot of time arguing that things that aren't as important (guesses about play calling, OG play) shouldn't get as much attention as the things that are (turnovers, red zone efficiency).

But offensive giveaways killed us last year. I've said that many, many times.

It doesn't change the fact that you should be looking at interceptions per attempt if you're trying to get a measure of how often your QB is turning the ball over in the passing game. Like anything else, it all depends what you're trying to measure.

 

[percyhoward]

Rodgers is who Romo should try to model his game after...Extremely proficient.. and that is without a run game and with a crappy Oline too.

Don't forget Rodgers had at least 4 legitimate targets last year: Cobb, Nelson, Jones, and Finley.

Romo had at most three dependable targets, and often only two.

That made a major difference in the 2012 INT totals compared to previous seasons.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Don't forget Rodgers had at least 4 legitimate targets last year: Cobb, Nelson, Jones, and Finley.

Romo had at most three dependable targets, and often only two.

That made a major difference in the 2012 INT totals compared to previous seasons.

Often 3..

 

[percyhoward]

Often 3..

Usually three, sometimes two, and (here comes the point) never four.

 

[Crown Royal]

I think that, especially compared to 2011, last year was the toughest full year I've watched Romo as a pro. A mess at WR, at offensive line, just rough.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Tony Romo's INT percentage in 2012 with his "league-leading" 19 picks: 2.9%
Eli Manning's CAREER INT percentage: 3.2%

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Usually three, sometimes two, and (here comes the point) never four.

Got the point earlier.. its still not relevant.

 

[ufcrules1]

Don't forget Rodgers had at least 4 legitimate targets last year: Cobb, Nelson, Jones, and Finley.

Romo had at most three dependable targets, and often only two.

That made a major difference in the 2012 INT totals compared to previous seasons.

Finley was very average to below average, Nelson was hurt half the year, Cobb and Jones were legit.

Romo had three solid targets..... Bryant, Austin, Witten.

Not a huge difference.

 

[percyhoward]

Got the point earlier.. its still not relevant.

How not?

2012 Team INT: 1 int every 34.5 attempts
to Ogletree/Beasley/Harris: 1 int every 13.1 attempts
to everyone else: 1 int every 50.1 attempts

 

[RoyTheHammer]

How not?

2012 Team INT: 1 int every 34.5 attempts
to Ogletree/Beasley/Harris: 1 int every 13.1 attempts
to everyone else: 1 int every 50.1 attempts

How does the number of legit targets Romo/Rogers had this year relate to the amount of interceptions Romo threw this year compared to past years?

It doesn't even make sense..

 

[percyhoward]

Finley was very average to below average, Nelson was hurt half the year, Cobb and Jones were legit.

Romo had three solid targets..... Bryant, Austin, Witten.

Not a huge difference.

Nelson played in 12 games, and Finley caught only 3 fewer passes than Otree, Harris, and Beasley combined.

 

[DFWJC]

How does the number of legit targets Romo/Rogers had this year relate to the amount of interceptions Romo threw this year compared to past years?

It doesn't even make sense..

He's showing that once you get past Miles and Dez as WR targets, the int rate sky-rockets.

I'm sure you got that, but just making sure.
It's a pretty dramatic stat from 2012 and shows a huge number of those ints had to do with who was throwing to.

I would not compare Romo to Rodgers though.

 

[TNCowboy]

I don't think he could. I do think he could be Brees-good, though, which is huge praise in itself.

:laugh2:

 

[perrykemp]

Nelson played in 12 games, and Finley caught only 3 fewer passes than Otree, Harris, and Beasley combined.

Small quibble. Nelson had a case of "Austin-itis" and exited a bunch of games with hamstring injuries. He may have played in 12 games -- but more realistically probably played 9 games worth.

 

[TNCowboy]

Tony Romo's INT percentage in 2012 with his "league-leading" 19 picks: 2.9%
Eli Manning's CAREER INT percentage: 3.2%

E. Manning has at times been a turnover machine as well. He threw 25 a couple years ago.

Most of the guys mentioned in this thread had a better OL than Romo did, but just throwing sacks out there - as some have - in defense of Romo isn't being honest about it. Some of those sacks were on Romo. He had an opportunity to throw it away in some cases and took a sack instead. Just like Roethlisberger and Cutler do constantly.

There's a big difference in Brees and Romo playing indoors vs. Manning playing in the meadowlands most of his career. Which makes what Aaron Rodgers is doing nigh unbelievable. P. Manning and Brady are two of the greatest ever, both still playing at an extraordinarily high level, and yet Rodgers is definitively better than either right now.

Until Romo starts winning big games, he's nothing more than a more consistent version of Jay Cutler. Cowboy fans can whine about the perception of Romo til the trumphet sounds, but facts are in the prime of his career, he's hung back to back 8-8 seasons up, following 1-5 or whatever he was in 2010, and consistently played poorly when his season was on the line. Stats can be spun to try to prove a lot of points. That Romo is at home watching the playoffs on TV year after year can't be spun.

 

[ufcrules1]

Small quibble. Nelson had a case of "Austin-itis" and exited a bunch of games with hamstring injuries. He may have played in 12 games -- but more realistically probably played 9 games worth.

Bingo. The receiving core from both teams was about equal all things considered. Quite simply put, Rogers is on a whole different level than Romo, especially in the turnover department.

 

[lostar2009]

Romo had his chance to suceede .. But he rather play golf instead of helping Dez with his playbook during the the season. Let's all face the fact Romo stunk last season and his only quality wins was the 3-4 towards the end of the season when teams play a lot of prevent D. The same way Felix, Jenkins , and Tnew was dismiss I expected the same to be done with Romo. Inconsistent play with greatness and scrubness isn't taking you far in the NFL. I'm just wanting for Romo and JJ time in big D to end.


I think Romo is the only QB in the NFL that is put on a pedestal for his qb rating. But his team is bash for their FAILURE to make the post season..NOT sb we are talking about here but reaching the playoffs . Its never his fault never never never never

 

[Idgit]

...Let's all face the fact Romo stunk last season and his only quality wins was the 3-4 towards the end of the season when teams play a lot of prevent D.

Well, I'm convinced. What do you say we just call it a thread, then guys?

 

[Ren]

You probably are sure, since you probably also don't pay any attention to anything critical I say about the team because I spend a lot of time arguing that things that aren't as important (guesses about play calling, OG play) shouldn't get as much attention as the things that are (turnovers, red zone efficiency).

But offensive giveaways killed us last year. I've said that many, many times.

It doesn't change the fact that you should be looking at interceptions per attempt if you're trying to get a measure of how often your QB is turning the ball over in the passing game. Like anything else, it all depends what you're trying to measure.

blablabla

Seriously, 16 games 19 picks... that's to much regardless of who else did it or how many times he passed

Spin it which ever way you want though

 

[DFWJC]

Romo had his chance to suceede .. But he rather play golf instead of helping Dez with his playbook during the the season. Let's all face the fact Romo stunk last season and his only quality wins was the 3-4 towards the end of the season when teams play a lot of prevent D. The same way Felix, Jenkins , and Tnew was dismiss I expected the same to be done with Romo. Inconsistent play with greatness and scrubness isn't taking you far in the NFL. I'm just wanting for Romo and JJ time in big D to end.


I think Romo is the only QB in the NFL that is put on a pedestal for his qb rating. But his team is bash for their FAILURE to make the post season..NOT sb we are talking about here but reaching the playoffs . Its never his fault never never never never

Troll alert.

Romo turned it over way too much the 1st half of last year, but he did not stink for the season by any real standards that would exclude the top few QBs in the league.

And he DID work with Dez a ton in the off hours. So wrong there.

As for QB ratings, Romo seems to get more grief for having a high rating but with the team not having playoff wins than the other way around. You got that one backwards too.

I feel dumber for even responding to this tripe.