Rumor: Cowboys made an offer to Arizona?

[TD22]

what number will Boldin wear if he joins the Cowboys?

T.O. #81

Boldin #88??? will Irvin allow him to wear his jersey number??



It is too early but it had to be mentioned!!!

 

[Matt]

what number will Boldin wear if he joins the Cowboys?

T.O. #81

Boldin #88??? will Irvin allow him to wear his jersey number??



It is too early but it had to be mentioned!!!

88 = Bennet

Oh, wait, why don't we just trade him!

 

[TD22]

80 = Bennett

88 is available

 

[cowboys2233]

No, he didn't. Neither does Boldin.

Yes, he did. So does Boldin.

One does not get into the HOF without all world physical skills (except for Art Monk, of course). They may not be as obvious as having 4.2 speed, but...

He had amazing strength for a WR
He had amazing coordination for a WR
He had great quickness for a man his size

Are these not physical skills? Again, he did not get into the HOF because of his good looks and witty dialogue, although he was a well-spoken and handsome man too! :laugh2:

 

[Matt]

80 = Bennett

88 is available

Sorry, thought he was 88.

Isn't someone else 88 though?

 

[cowboys2233]

I am all for the trade but why would the Cards want Spears?

Because people here think he's somewhat expendable and would cause the least amount of damage to our team while we land an star WR.

Logic doesn't work around these parts! :laugh2:

Give AZ Carp and next years 2nd. Throw in a 3rd in 2010 if Boldin makes the pro bowl. Or give them Ball, other than DRC, their corners don't have much upside.

Seems you are not immune to illogical thought, either. Let's get one thing straight -- landing Boldin begins with offering a #1. That's all there is to it.

 

[Redball Express]

Bill Parcells, I believe, once said he was the best WR in the game.

and BP also drafted Bobby Carpenter #1 , too.

Brought in Bledsoe to be our savior and promised he would complete the job of getting us playoff victories, too.

So BP knows a thing or three about BP. Not as much about the present game of football.

I don't think Boldin is really a necessity and no way is Dallas going to blow their future drafts or future cap on this guy.

We are pretty much set with this team.

It's time for them to putup or shutup with what is there. It's getting to the point where in order for this team to win now..we have to be two deep at every position with All-Pros to win..?

Pleazz..if we sign a guy like Boldin along with everything else we have and STILL LOSE we are going to be the laughing stock of the league.


:starspin ReDBaLL ExPreSs :starspin

 

[cowboyrock]

Because people here think he's somewhat expendable and would cause the least amount of damage to our team while we land an star WR.

Logic doesn't work around these parts! :laugh2:



Seems you are not immune to illogical thought, either. Let's get one thing straight -- landing Boldin begins with offering a #1. That's all there is to it.

Let's put an end to this right now.Boldin is not coming to the Cowboys. Jerry should have gotten a vet during Free-agency.he blew it. now we are stuck with what we have. we are not getting Boldin before this season.PERIOD!

 

[Beast_from_East]

My buddy just sent me a text saying that 1310 said the boys offered Arizona Spears and 1st round pick for Boldin.

Is it true?

Did anybody else hear this?

I would freaking love for this to happen, I would even throw in a 3rd with Spears and our 1st.

However, the Cards have said they are not tradin him under any conditions. Word on the street is that several teams made offers before the draft (Dallas and Philly both rumored to be among those) and the Cards flat refused any offer.

Boldin also has 3 years left on his contract, so the Cards are not in a position of "trade him now or lose him next year" mentality.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Man, that sounds a little steep.

 

[BAT]

Because people here think he's somewhat expendable and would cause the least amount of damage to our team while we land an star WR.

Logic doesn't work around these parts! :laugh2:



Seems you are not immune to illogical thought, either. Let's get one thing straight -- landing Boldin begins with offering a #1. That's all there is to it.

Hey, you are hurting my feelings. Best be careful, you could get our posts deleted, sensitive mods doncha know?

And Carp IS a #1, slightly used & rumpled I admit, but a #1 nonetheless. As for Boldin's worth, it is whatever the Cards can get, but ANY negotiation begins somewhere, and any businessman worth his salt does not blow his wad with the first offer.

 

[Nexx]

and BP also drafted Bobby Carpenter #1 , too.

Brought in Bledsoe to be our savior and promised he would complete the job of getting us playoff victories, too.

So BP knows a thing or three about BP. Not as much about the present game of football.

I don't think Boldin is really a necessity and no way is Dallas going to blow their future drafts or future cap on this guy.

We are pretty much set with this team.

It's time for them to putup or shutup with what is there.

:starspin ReDBaLL ExPreSs :starspin

future draft picks who will back up our starters? i mean come on, our first 3 draft picks this years are all backups. boldin would be an instant stud at WR and if heaven forbid T.O. went down, Boldin could easily take over the #1 role. this makes so much sense its not even funny. when you are this close you make the final push to get you over the hump. the window is very narrow in the NFL, you do whatever it takes once that window is open to win it all imho.

 

[Brandon]

If T.O goes down, we miss the playoffs, that simple.

Boldin is better than T.O in my eyes, and the main reason is his age. If T.O was 30 than its obvious you pick T.O, but when you're lead receiver, you're best receiver is 34 years old, they don't have that many years left and chances of injury obviously increase.

When you get a great player to play on a great team in a winning culture they get better. Do people actually believe this is the best Boldin can be? You put that star on you're helmet and bubble player turns into a legit player(Marc Colombo).

 

[cowboys2233]

Hey, you are hurting my feelings. Best be careful, you could get our posts deleted, sensitive mods doncha know?

And Carp IS a #1, slightly used & rumpled I admit, but a #1 nonetheless. As for Boldin's worth, it is whatever the Cards can get, but ANY negotiation begins somewhere, and any businessman worth his salt does not blow his wad with the first offer.

First off, any businessman blowing his wad in a meeting is likely to be fired. That's disgusting. :

Plus, I think that's exactly where it starts, a #1. Anything less than that is immediately taken off the table and viewed as an insult. While we are busy trying to shortchange the Cards, someone (cough, Eagles) comes along and snatches him from us because they offered real value.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yes, he did. So does Boldin.

One does not get into the HOF without all world physical skills (except for Art Monk, of course). They may not be as obvious as having 4.2 speed, but...

He had amazing strength for a WR
He had amazing coordination for a WR
He had great quickness for a man his size

Are these not physical skills? Again, he did not get into the HOF because of his good looks and witty dialogue, although he was a well-spoken and handsome man too! :laugh2:

I could not disagree with you more. Steve Largent was as ungifted an athlete as I can remember at the WR position but he is in the HOF. Rice was not a supremely gifted athlete but he will be in the HOF. There are many players in the HOF who were not the most gifted athletes at there positions.

It's ture, Irvin was very strong but that's because he worked at it. He trained for it. I would not say Irvin was overly coordinated for the WR position. John Jefferson or Lynn Swann, many others I would say they were amazingly coordinated. Irvin, I would not say he was. Irvin was not overly quick either. Not slow, by any means, but not exceptionally quick. He did it by understanding body position and running exceptionally disciplined routes.

In fact, I would probably say that in order to get into the HOF, it's not about exceptional physical skills. Everybody who comes into the NFL is an exceptional talent, for the most part, from a physical stand point. Those that can be more then just a physical talent are the ones who become HOFers IMO. At least, by and large IMO.

 

[ethiostar]

cowboys2233[/B];2202952]
First off, any businessman blowing his wad in a meeting is likely to be fired. That's disgusting. :

:laugh2:

 

[Angus]

Given time and health, Miles Austin may eclipse all of them. You never know. . . . .

 

[Cbz40]

Given time and health, Miles Austin may eclipse all of them. You never know. . . . .

I think you may be correct....

 

[BAT]

First off, any businessman blowing his wad in a meeting is likely to be fired. That's disgusting. :

Ah, spoken like a non-businessman. You should see the stuff that goes on in "meetings".

Plus, I think that's exactly where it starts, a #1. Anything less than that is immediately taken off the table and viewed as an insult. While we are busy trying to shortchange the Cards, someone (cough, Eagles) comes along and snatches him from us because they offered real value.

Tuna asked for a #1 for JT too, didn't happen. Same with Gints and the Shockey trade. What has Boldin done to warrant more than either Taylor or Shockey? Hell, look what GB had to settle for w/Favre. All have been more productive, future HOFers, more championships, more more pro bowls, top 5 at position, etc. These guys are the current barometer for trading elite players.


As for the Eags, they are notoriously CHEAP and in the past have coveted picks more than players so not worried about them, especially when their idea of trade talk is always the same - even swap for Lito Sheppard.


If the Cards want a trade then Jerry will get him, IF Jerry wants him. Even if it takes a #1 and a player/package of players, then I still do it BTW. But I would try my damndest to make that #1 conditional. It's all about due diligence.

 

[cowboys2233]

Steve Largent was as ungifted an athlete as I can remember at the WR position but he is in the HOF.

I dunno, I have this theory about that. I just think the physical skills they did have that made them great were just more subtle in nature. There was something there that might not be quite as apparent. Route running is only effective if you have the physical skills to complement them. I could practice route running until I was blue in the face and T-New would still be all over me like white on rice.

Rice was not a supremely gifted athlete but he will be in the HOF.

And then you lost me. :laugh2: