Rumor: Jerry Jones says JG will have NO say on offense

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This place never ceases to amaze.

That's why I visit. LOL.

 

[gimmesix]

Here's Jerry being asked about Jason's move to more defensive involvement.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/multim..._Defense/b0ff6127-2d60-4831-8d51-a202f7d9f1d5

1st question sounds like, "Jason won't have the last pencil down this year".

The response. "Correct. Not on offense".

Also talks about how the move towards defense will allow Jason to acquire a wealth of knowledge under the tutelage of Monte Kiffin.

More specifically, "a thorough indoctrination, thorough indoctrination of-uhh, Jason in that [Kiffin's philosophy]. Will really advance his cause being-a head coach"

Yes, dallascowboys.com has a better article on Garrett's involvement on offense than the one in the OP. Apparently, Garrett couldn't keep himself from interfering with Callahan running the offense, since it was Garrett's system. Garrett never fully relinquished control, and Callahan was frustrated by it.

It sounds like a condition for Linehan coming in was that Garrett would be hands-off his offense. I don't know if that condition was mandated by Jones or Linehan.

But I don't really care who mandated it. If Garrett wants to run the offense, then he should run the offense. If he hires a coordinator to run the offense, then he should let the coordinator do his job. If it's not Garrett's decision to hire a coordinator, then he should leave if he can't accept relinquishing control of the offense.

 

[tantrix1969]

One other clarification. Jerry said Garrett was basically the OC last year. I take that to mean that he designed the offense, the weekly gameplan, etc. but on game day Callahan called the plays. Some are taking it to mean Garrett called the plays. Don't think so. In fact I think Jerry goes on to say how much freedom Romo had in the playcalling as well.

Now Linehan joins the mix and will author the offense including terminology I read somewhere. So last year was again Garrett's offense, Callahan calling plays, but this year the O is Linehan's and he's the playcaller.

It's really not a strange scenario if you were unhappy with the offensive production - like many were - and if you want Garrett out of the playcalling for game management purposes. They tried to let Callahan run Garrett's show - it didn't work. Could have let Callahan install and run his own offense but they opted instead to go with Linehan when he became available. Jerry is quoted as having said so.

I think the biggest change is the fact that they want the author of the offense to actually call the plays. And Garrett is disqualified because game management precludes him from playcalling. Not that some don't do both - but Dallas is obviously staying the course of keeping those two pieces separate.

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Jerry spilled the beans on Garrett again. Yes he was calling plays. He told you he wasn't? ... Nothing like a Cowboys offseason. lol

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes, dallascowboys.com has a better article on Garrett's involvement on offense than the one in the OP. Apparently, Garrett couldn't keep himself from interfering with Callahan running the offense, since it was Garrett's system. Garrett never fully relinquished control, and Callahan was frustrated by it.

It sounds like a condition for Linehan coming in was that Garrett would be hands-off his offense. I don't know if that condition was mandated by Jones or Linehan.

But I don't really care who mandated it. If Garrett wants to run the offense, then he should run the offense. If he hires a coordinator to run the offense, then he should let the coordinator do his job. If it's not Garrett's decision to hire a coordinator, then he should leave if he can't accept relinquishing control of the offense.

I definitely get the impression that Callahan is Jerry's man.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Jerry spilled the beans on Garrett again. Yes he was calling plays. He told you he wasn't? ... Nothing like a Cowboys offseason.

LOL. Just like Broaddus said, and just like most of us could see with our own eyes.

Also, for all those talking about Linehan putting his own system in... Isn't it basically Garrett's system anyway? Isn't he a Coryell numbered-routes/named-protection guy?

 

[Little Jr]

Yes, dallascowboys.com has a better article on Garrett's involvement on offense than the one in the OP. Apparently, Garrett couldn't keep himself from interfering with Callahan running the offense, since it was Garrett's system. Garrett never fully relinquished control, and Callahan was frustrated by it.

It sounds like a condition for Linehan coming in was that Garrett would be hands-off his offense. I don't know if that condition was mandated by Jones or Linehan.

But I don't really care who mandated it. If Garrett wants to run the offense, then he should run the offense. If he hires a coordinator to run the offense, then he should let the coordinator do his job. If it's not Garrett's decision to hire a coordinator, then he should leave if he can't accept relinquishing control of the offense.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/a...rdinator/066d7167-e0c6-48a4-ab9a-12f3044255d6

 

[Little Jr]

so jg was stripped of playcalling after the 2012 season. Now he had his playbook thrown out the door after last season. Why is he here? Why does JJ keep him?

 

[Zordon]

Feels like just walking into a really wack movie, not sure you can sit through this.

 

[odog422]

LOL. Just like Broaddus said, and just like most of us could see with our own eyes.

But wait...I thought Jason said..."Bill calls the plays, guys...." Oh wait...that's only when they don't work, right?

 

[xwalker]

How can Romo be more involved?

It would be funny if Jerry built living quarters for Romo and family at Valley Ranch and/or the new headquarters.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Not sure I get why Garrett should quit because of what this article reveals. Nowhere does it say Jones mandated that Garrett have no say in the offense. More than likely it was a condition of Linehan coming here since he would want to run the offense his way rather than simply running Garrett's, like Callahan did.

No top-notch coordinator would want to come in and have to simply run someone else's system.

Yes, I agree. I think this is what Jerry means with the salt and pepper stuff and saying Garrett won't be involved in the "cooking". Garrett can still be involved with what we do, but the actual system is going to be different.

My other theory is that Jerry is simplifying the head coach's job to the point where Garrett's successor will be none other than Jerry himself.

 

[Clove]

One other clarification. Jerry said Garrett was basically the OC last year. I take that to mean that he designed the offense, the weekly gameplan, etc. but on game day Callahan called the plays. Some are taking it to mean Garrett called the plays. Don't think so. In fact I think Jerry goes on to say how much freedom Romo had in the playcalling as well.

Now Linehan joins the mix and will author the offense including terminology I read somewhere. So last year was again Garrett's offense, Callahan calling plays, but this year the O is Linehan's and he's the playcaller.

It's really not a strange scenario if you were unhappy with the offensive production - like many were - and if you want Garrett out of the playcalling for game management purposes. They tried to let Callahan run Garrett's show - it didn't work. Could have let Callahan install and run his own offense but they opted instead to go with Linehan when he became available. Jerry is quoted as having said so.

I think the biggest change is the fact that they want the author of the offense to actually call the plays. And Garrett is disqualified because game management precludes him from playcalling. Not that some don't do both - but Dallas is obviously staying the course of keeping those two pieces separate.

I see what you're saying. The thing is, this is proving to the world that he never felt satisfied as Garrett as an offensive coordinator, which in terms mean, after a bad offensive coordinating job, he should not have been promoted. You promote people who have succeeded, that's how I always thought life was. But apparently, some how, some way, he thought Garrett would make a great head coach. How?

What gave Jones (GM JONES) any indication that he would make a good head coach? Things such as these are the reasons we will never go or do anything important on the field. He's made countless mistakes at the QB position, picking players way past their prime, baseball players, reaching for the next up trending QB, instead of drafting a first round QB. And now he's doing the same thing at the second most important position on the team, the coaching position.

He's playing around with the coaching position as if it's not important. He's telling people what they will and won't be doing. So why even call Garrett the head coach, call yourself the head coach Mr Coach Jones.

Whatever, the whole thing, I could care less about. I watch because I have to.

 

[Doomsday101]

I see what you're saying. The thing is, this is proving to the world that he never felt satisfied as Garrett as an offensive coordinator, which in terms mean, after a bad offensive coordinating job, he should not have been promoted. You promote people who have succeeded, that's how I always thought life was. But apparently, some how, some way, he thought Garrett would make a great head coach. How?

What gave Jones (GM JONES) any indication that he would make a good head coach? Things such as these are the reasons we will never go or do anything important on the field. He's made countless mistakes at the QB position, picking players way past their prime, baseball players, reaching for the next up trending QB, instead of drafting a first round QB. And now he's doing the same thing at the second most important position on the team, the coaching position.

He's playing around with the coaching position as if it's not important. He's telling people what they will and won't be doing. So why even call Garrett the head coach, call yourself the head coach Mr Coach Jones.

Whatever, the whole thing, I could care less about. I watch because I have to.

I don't think Jerry was not happy with Garrett as an OC and I think Jerry relizes Garrett to have any success as HC he has to be the HC or the team not the offensive coach but the HC. I think elminating the some of the hats Garrett has to wear down to 1 main thing which is the team. As HC some offensive stratagy will still fall to Garrett going for it or not, slowing the pace of the game or speeding up the pace of the game. When people say well he knows nothing of defense? Really to understand offense is to understand what a defense does and how to attack that defense same for those coaches with defensive backgrounds they still understand what an offense is doing so it is not like they don't have a clue.

Kind of funny that 2 years ago it was Jimmy Johnson saying Jason needed to give up play calling and focus on the team now that it is happening all of a sudden it becomes a knock on Garrett.

 

[Bullflop]

You guys never cease to amaze. Everybody knows that you cant take what Jerry says seriously, yet like a bunch of old women you all dissect and analyze and try to read whats "really going on" based on quotes w/o knowing the context they were made in, and taking the word of idiots pumping out the garbage in print. Then you just continue building up all these scenarios in your lil minds and its all baseless drivel that its based on.

You seem to ignore the fact that I clearly qualified my statements based on allowing for doubt that what was reported may have been untrue. That being said, it's obvious that I haven't assumed anything about that report actually being factual like you infer. Despite that being the case, however, it's plain to see that Jerry is and has been compromising Garrett's responsibilities all along. That being said, perhaps you're simply in denial of what you'd prefer not to accept. I totally doubt that you know for sure that this is untrue any more than I'm sure it's so.

 

[Beast_from_East]

So basically what we got going on here is Garrett botched game management so bad that Jerry stripped him of his play calling duties last year and gave the job to Callahan so Garrett could focus on game management totally. Garrett would not leave Callahan alone and kept messing with him and as Jerry says, "Garrett was the OC last year".

So now Linehan is being added to the mix and it will be his offense and his play calling and Garrett will focus most of his time on the defense, per Jerry.

At this rate, the only thing Garrett will be responsible for next year will be making sure the Gatorade bucket is full.............pretty much neutered at this point...............LOL

 

[odog422]

IMO, when anyone who cares to, looks back on what will be known as "the Garrett years," I will wager that it will be deemed that no one in the history of this once proud organization brought so little to the table and barely registered as a blip on the radar screen as HC of the Cowboys. Whatever most think of even Campo, almost all will agree that circumstances - cap, devoid of talent - set him up to fail. Garrett's legacy? Anointed and appointed as red head genius, to offensive system scrapped, stripped of authority and duties, surrounded by former HCs in an effort to somehow allow some modicum of success while he claps on the sideline. This man, in my estimation, has brought nothing to this team. Worse, and also IMO, he has shown himself to be a liar - "Bill calls the plays, guys" - and is never willing to accept responsibility for the shortcomings of the team he - in title - presides over as HC. He doesn't learn from his mistakes. He cracks under pressure. And for what its worth, I don't particularly believe he has the respect of the players in the manner many like to proclaim. Certainly, not Romo, Dez or DeMarco. I base this on interactions on the sidelines and because players also know who, is truly, in charge.

Many cite Ozzie Newsome considering him for HC and his quote that Jason should be a politician as an example of how Ozzie was impressed - I submit that was meant in that he talks a good game, but that's about it. All talk no substance. At least, that is what I have seen with him on the sideline. I cannot truly think of one significant improvement to this team that can truly be tied directly to Garrett. Nothing.

So on we go, no big deal. Just my take on how the Garrett years - IMO will be viewed as when the team was being coached by the worst HC in the esteemed history of this franchise when all is said and done.

 

[Beast_from_East]

IMO, when anyone who cares to, looks back on what will be known as "the Garrett years," I will wager that it will be deemed that no one in the history of this once proud organization brought so little to the table and barely registered as a blip on the radar screen as HC of the Cowboys. Whatever most think of even Campo, almost all will agree that circumstances - cap, devoid of talent - set him up to fail. Garrett's legacy? Anointed and appointed as red head genius, to offensive system scrapped, stripped of authority and duties, surrounded by former HCs in an effort to somehow allow some modicum of success while he claps on the sideline. This man, in my estimation, has brought nothing to this team. Worse, and also IMO, he has shown himself to be a liar - "Bill calls the plays, guys" - and is never willing to accept responsibility for the shortcomings of the team he - in title - presides over as HC. He doesn't learn from his mistakes. He cracks under pressure. And for what its worth, I don't particularly believe he has the respect of the players in the manner many like to proclaim. Certainly, not Romo, Dez or DeMarco. I base this on interactions on the sidelines and because players also know who, is truly, in charge.

Many cite Ozzie Newsome considering him for HC and his quote that Jason should be a politician as an example of how Ozzie was impressed - I submit that was meant in that he talks a good game, but that's about it. All talk no substance. At least, that is what I have seen with him on the sideline. I cannot truly think of one significant improvement to this team that can truly be tied directly to Garrett. Nothing.

So on we go, no big deal. Just my take on how the Garrett years - IMO will be viewed as when the team was being coached by the worst HC in the esteemed history of this franchise when all is said and done.

Yea, the lying part is what is most disappointing about all of this. Jerry flat out said "Garrett was the OC last year" and that it was not fair to Bill the way Garrett took play calling back over, yet Garrett stands in the presser and says "Bill calls the plays guys".

So Garrett is just flat out lied to everybody.................incompetence is one thing, intentionally lying is another.

 

[odog422]

Yea, the lying part is what is most disappointing about all of this. Jerry flat out said "Garrett was the OC last year" and that it was not fair to Bill the way Garrett took play calling back over, yet Garrett stands in the presser and says "Bill calls the plays guys".

So Garrett is just flat out lied to everybody.................incompetence is one thing, intentionally lying is another.

If I'm a player or coach, it tells me he can't be trusted...but I'd also wager they already knew that as well.

 

[Wood]

If Jerry were to walk into a hospital....he would be committed to psych ward within a day. Something very disturbing going on with him and its getting worse. Dark days for sure inside Jones household and for fans.

 

[Wolfpack]

If Jerry were to walk into a hospital....he would be committed to psych ward within a day. Something very disturbing going on with him and its getting worse. Dark days for sure inside Jones household and for fans.

For sure. Its the Al Davis Story v2.0. Not going to end well.