Running back candidates

esloan said:
Except that is not true. QBs tend to last a lot longer than RBs in this league. There is a lot of evidence showing that. You think Romo will only last two years but, behind this line, there is a good chance he lasts much longer. Even if he didn't, guess what? There is life after Romo. The better team we have to put around our next QB, the more chance he succeeds. You don't do that by giving away premium draft picks for a 30 year old RB.
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& if it equates to Lombardi #6 you will be right here with the rest of us applauding the effort and calling the trade genius..... :rolleyes:
 
PJTHEDOORS said:
He's skipping ota's. End of the world as we know. Let's see if he actually skips regular season games when actual game checks count.
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From a front office, ruthless point- you can think that. From a coach/team/solidarity type mentality that any team may want instead of a fractured locker room with a star player who Demonstrably does not want to work with his team and it's not over money... Makes one think, and not simplistically, may I add. This guy is trying to push buttons and it won't get ignored.
 
Bleu Star said:
& if it equates to Lombardi #6 you will be right here with the rest of us applauding the effort and calling the trade genius..... :rolleyes:
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I will back the Cowboys and hope for the best no matter what they do. That is what being a fan is about. Hell, if they can get AP for a cheap price (i.e. no more than a 3rd round pick and 5-6 mil a year on a short contract) then I am all for it. But giving up a premium pick for an aging back and then paying him a lot of money is dumb.
 
I still don't like the idea of sending a 1st or 2nd rounder for a guy who hasn't played in a year and who looks like he lost a step in 2013. RBs don't have a long shelf life and not many have ever been worth all that much above age 30. Combine that with an albatross of a contract and the fact that the player badly wants to play for Dallas and may not be willing to restructure for other trade partners and I see no reason to offer them anything more than a 4th rounder.

It all reminds me of the Randy Moss situation with Oakland several years ago and that was for an ace receiver in his prime. All the Raiders got for him was a 5th rounder if memory serves. TO in a somewhat similar situation was given the pink slip by the Eagles while still in his prime and went on to put up a 15-TD season for the Cowboys.

I know AP wants to come here but there is zero reason/precedent to giving up that much for a 30-year old RB who has been used as much as he has and doesn't want to play for his current team anymore.

Keep on your poker face, Jerry. 4th round pick, 3-year deal, $18M total, $9M guaranteed. If any of those parameters cannot be agreed upon we move on to plan B. The odds are that AP is nowhere near the player he was in 2012 anymore so there is no reason to act like we are trading for that guy.

In retrospect, if we weren't happy with McFadden plus the holdovers we should have just signed one of the many good vet RBs who were available in FA. I think CJ Spiller would have been a great fit with this OL.
 
you want a 30 year old fumbling child abuser on this team?
 
If the Cowboys were going to spend a draft pick on AD IMO that would have occurred during the draft. I still believe he is going to force his release. Just look at the game being played by both organizations. He does not want to be there and most of their fans want him gone? This guy is playing hardball and this latest move is going to cost him 250k. That is a lot of money for a guy with all those kids and lawyer fees this past year.
 
Let's do some quick AP analysis.

He has indicated he will remain in Texas for OTAs this week. IMHO, this is stage one of sending clear indicators to the Vikings brass that they should trade him. He's facing a $250,000 fine if he doesn't show this week.

Once again, IMHO he couldn't give two crap about a fine AND he is most likely financially secure enough to take this pretty far with the Vikes. What do the Vikes have to gain by getting him back? Possibly a 6-10 season instead of 4-12. AP alone will get them two more wins. At the end of the day though, what matters most?

Holding your ground and delaying the forward motion of your team on principle?

Or

Trading AP and accelerating the rebuild process?

Hmmm... The choice seems pretty simple to this armchair GM.

Package a 2nd and a 4th together with Randle and get this done.

It is only beginning to get interesting folks.

http://teamstre.am/1GxKt0I
 
JerryJonesMustGo said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source...ngs-with-decision-to-skip-otas-021650386.html

One Adrian Peterson....

Seems there has been no change all off season in his desire to be traded. He seems to be willing to push this as far as he can. Minn would get much much less in a trade this time next offseason and can only rework APs contract to add additional guarantees if they want to keep him as a Viking.
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Exactly.. If you really think through this, AP is indeed the one who holds all the cards. As an organization, do we want to go with a 2nd, 4th, and a potential young RB or run the risk of getting nothing next year if this gets ugly and AP's hold out impacts the regular season? From a business perspective, I'm working the phones NOW.

As I stated before, money is probably not an issue with AP. We're not talking Adam "make it rain" Jones here.
 
The Vikings are hurting themselves by playing hardball with Peterson. Sure they have the right to do so. However from a business standpoint you want to be known as a player friendly organization not one that will force a player to remain after they have made it clear they no longer want to play for you. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys are respected by players around the league. This helps moral and makes free agents want to play for you.

It's one thing for a player to hold out or ask to be traded over money. It's a business and everyone understand this. With Peterson it isn't about money. It's personal and that makes the Vikings look even worse.

The Vikings are in a no win situation really. Regardless of right or wrong they need to make something happen.
 
I would rather keep an eye on Thomas Rawles.I would snatch him off the Seahawks practice squad if he doesn't get cut or makes their active roster.
 
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Bleu Star said:
Let's do some quick AP analysis.

He has indicated he will remain in Texas for OTAs this week. IMHO, this is stage one of sending clear indicators to the Vikings brass that they should trade him. He's facing a $250,000 fine if he doesn't show this week.

Once again, IMHO he couldn't give two crap about a fine AND he is most likely financially secure enough to take this pretty far with the Vikes. What do the Vikes have to gain by getting him back? Possibly a 6-10 season instead of 4-12. AP alone will get them two more wins. At the end of the day though, what matters most?

Holding your ground and delaying the forward motion of your team on principle?

Or

Trading AP and accelerating the rebuild process?

Hmmm... The choice seems pretty simple to this armchair GM.

Package a 2nd and a 4th together with Randle and get this done.

It is only beginning to get interesting folks.

http://teamstre.am/1GxKt0I
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I agree with most of that, but nobody is going to trade for Peterson. That window has closed. Peterson can still hold out if traded and who wants that headache.

They have to pay him or release him.

MINN might not be that bad this year. Bridgewater has another of experience and they added MWallace and TNew to a solid young team. They drafted TWaynes, EKendricks, TJClemings and DHunter.

They went 7-9 w/o Peterson last year and brought back McKinnon and Asiata at RB.

I think APeterson gets his wish and is released by July. A disgruntled vet and star can infect a whole team, especially when they are young as MINN.
 
superonyx said:
The Vikings are hurting themselves by playing hardball with Peterson. Sure they have the right to do so. However from a business standpoint you want to be known as a player friendly organization not one that will force a player to remain after they have made it clear they no longer want to play for you. Jerry Jones and the Cowboys are respected by players around the league. This helps moral and makes free agents want to play for you.

It's one thing for a player to hold out or ask to be traded over money. It's a business and everyone understand this. With Peterson it isn't about money. It's personal and that makes the Vikings look even worse.

The Vikings are in a no win situation really. Regardless of right or wrong they need to make something happen.
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You are not taking into account the Vikings were rapidly losing sponsorship from businesses that protested Peterson's actions. The Vikings chose to support their many sponsors over one player. IMO, it was the correct decision and other players are smart enough to see the very same thing.
 
bkight13 said:
I agree with most of that, but nobody is going to trade for Peterson. That window has closed. Peterson can still hold out if traded and who wants that headache.

They have to pay him or release him.

MINN might not be that bad this year. Bridgewater has another of experience and they added MWallace and TNew to a solid young team. They drafted TWaynes, EKendricks, TJClemings and DHunter.

They went 7-9 w/o Peterson last year and brought back McKinnon and Asiata at RB.

I think APeterson gets his wish and is released by July. A disgruntled vet and star can infect a whole team, especially when they are young as MINN.
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Tnew? Is that the guy who got torched repeatedly against the Giants several years ago? Minnesota is a joke right now... Detroit and GB will own them. They don't even have a chance to win their own division much less make the playoffs. Keeping AD on that team and paying him that money is very dumb. Only reason to pay him that money is for ticket sales.
 
ufcrules1 said:
Tnew? Is that the guy who got torched repeatedly against the Giants several years ago? Minnesota is a joke right now... Detroit and GB will own them. They don't even have a chance to win their own division much less make the playoffs. Keeping AD on that team and paying him that money is very dumb. Only reason to pay him that money is for ticket sales.
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MINN had some close games last year against a weak schedule, but they went 7-9. They did it without Peterson and they had another great draft and added some key vets. I think they can be a 9-7 team with Peterson.
 
mrtxstar said:
You are not taking into account the Vikings were rapidly losing sponsorship from businesses that protested Peterson's actions. The Vikings chose to support their many sponsors over one player. IMO, it was the correct decision and other players are smart enough to see the very same thing.
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Then why fight to keep him now?

They bailed on him and he wants nothing to do with them anymore.

Everyone knows this and with his contract no one is going to trade a 7th for him.

Just cut him and move on.
 
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