Salary Cap Update. 10m under as of 3/27

[gmoney112]

So my not rueing Nick Perry and TJ McDonald is Stockholm Syndrome? Oh noes.

Sweden is nice in the Spring at least.

burgerking telling us that we are traumatized because we prefer not to build in FA gets old. Didn't take long for the usual subjects to turn the thread into this.

Now i want chicken fries.

 

[waldoputty]

We did NOT restructure anyone this year? No wonder. You are definitely completely misinformed.

that is not what i said.
i said we routinely restructure dez and tcrawford, but we did not this year.
btw, witten was just extended - and that probably just opened up at least 4-5 million.
so our new cap space is ~13-15 million
no idea why it happened.
we have plenty of cap space if we wanted campbell
fact is they did not want him.

 

[waldoputty]

Now i want chicken fries.

what is chicken fries?

 

[CowboyRoy]

there is no more cap hell.
not with the way cap goes up every year.
the teams combined will have 2.1 billion dollars of cap space in 2018

LOL........ok buddy, whatever you say.

I cant believe I am even wasting my time.

Here is an article for you on what we did this year, JUST to get under the cap. And notice where they say they may have to do more if they trade or cut Romo.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/20/cowboys-create-cap-room-by-restructuring-contracts/

 

[Nightman]

we have been routinely restructuring tcrawford and dez, which we did not do this year.
that could have opened up 13M
year 1 cap impact for campbell is less than 10M
plenty of cap dollars in 2018 and beyond

we also left Romo, Carr(2014-15) and Dez alone last year ....... that is another 15m of rollover they could have had this year

 

[CowboyRoy]

that is not what i said.
i said we routinely restructure dez and tcrawford, but we did not this year.
btw, witten was just extended - and that probably just opened up at least 4-5 million.
so our new cap space is ~13-15 million
no idea why it happened.
we have plenty of cap space if we wanted campbell
fact is they did not want him.

Oh and here is another. Apparently they they restructured Sean Lee as well.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/07/cowboys-restructure-sean-lees-contract/

The reason they didnt sign any big name guys is the same reason as the last few years. They havent managed the cap well enough to do so. To restructure even more guys just to sign a big name guy would be even more stupid. Had they managed the cap better, it wouldnt be as much of an issue.

 

[CowboyRoy]

we also left Romo, Carr(2014-15) and Dez alone last year ....... that is another 15m of rollover they could have had this year

Yep and if they could probably free up another 30 million by restructuring every else.

The salary cap is myth

 

[waldoputty]

Oh and here is another. Apparently they they restructured Sean Lee as well.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/07/cowboys-restructure-sean-lees-contract/

The reason they didnt sign any big name guys is the same reason as the last few years. They havent managed the cap well enough to do so. To restructure even more guys just to sign a big name guy would be even more stupid. Had they managed the cap better, it wouldnt be as much of an issue.

i said they did not restructure dez and tcrawford.
they restructured 3 this year but could have easily done more.

 

[CowboyRoy]

i said they did not restructure dez and tcrawford.
they restructured 3 this year but could have easily done more.

In your mind I really do believe that makes sense to you. Enjoy!!

 

[waldoputty]

In your mind I really do believe that makes sense to you. Enjoy!!

well those are simple facts.
after witten's restructure today, they probably have close to $13-15m of cap space.
that is enough for any top FA signed this year - those are simple facts - and they did just did not want to do it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

well those are simple facts.
after witten's restructure today, they probably have close to $13-15m of cap space.
that is enough for any top FA signed this year - those are simple facts - and they did just did not want to do it.

Correct, but its a mismanagement of the cap and a stupid way to have to sign someone.

You could cheat on your wife every day, but do you do it? Commons sense my man. Common sense.

And since they didnt sign anyone, why do you think they are doing all this restructuring?

 

[waldoputty]

Correct, but its a mismanagement of the cap and a stupid way to have to sign someone.

You could cheat on your wife every day, but do you do it? Commons sense my man. Common sense.

And since they didnt sign anyone, why do you think they are doing all this restructuring?

restructuring is a standard technique for moving money around.
actually it provides a way to borrow cap $ with a negative interest rate due to the expanding cap.
if done correctly, it gives the team a larger cap to work with.
unlike plebes like us, teams get to have a negative interest rate whereas we pay 5% or god forbid 20% from credit cards.
this is not the same reality for teams.

why did they restructure witten today.
it sure is strange because they had 9m and no one to seemingly to spend it on.
someone mentioned an extension for martin - but this is really not the best time to do it.

richardson, whose salary is 8m, is one possibility for a trade and the salaries line up.
another guess could be eric walden who had 11 sacks last year.
however he is 32 so not ideal.

 

[CowboyRoy]

restructuring is a standard technique for moving money around.
actually it provides a way to borrow cap $ with a negative interest rate due to the expanding cap.
if done correctly, it gives the team a larger cap to work with.
unlike plebes like us, teams get to have a negative interest rate whereas we pay 5% or god forbid 20% from credit cards.
this is not the same reality for teams.

why did they restructure witten today.
it sure is strange because they had 9m and no one to seemingly to spend it on.
someone mentioned an extension for martin - but this is really not the best time to do it.

richardson, whose salary is 8m, is one possibility for a trade and the salaries line up.
another guess could be eric walden who had 11 sacks last year.
however he is 32 so not ideal.

For teams like the Cowboys that mismanage the cap it is standard.

Done correctly? Not the Cowboys.

At least you acknowledge that signing Witten was a cap move.

 

[waldoputty]

For teams like the Cowboys that mismanage the cap it is standard.

Done correctly? Not the Cowboys.

At least you acknowledge that signing Witten was a cap move.

the cap has changed and it is no longer the cap hell people remember.
all teams are now out of cap hell and there will be ~$2 billion dollars of combined cap space next year.
you need to think for a second about how much cap space that really is.

cap moves are done all the time.
if done correctly, you actually are able to create real and additional cap space because of the expanding cap.

 

[Nightman]

and here comes the Witten extension as predicted BUT 2 weeks after FA

Don't want to show that extra 4m in cap space

If they did everything March 1st we would have had 60m in cap space and every Cowboy fan would have a huge shopping list.......this way we dribble it out and can keep the myth alive

 

[Nightman]

For teams like the Cowboys that mismanage the cap it is standard.

Done correctly? Not the Cowboys.

At least you acknowledge that signing Witten was a cap move.

the cap has changed and it is no longer the cap hell people remember.
all teams are now out of cap hell and there will be ~$2 billion dollars of combined cap space next year.
you need to think for a second about how much cap space that really is.

cap moves are done all the time.
if done correctly, you actually are able to create real and additional cap space because of the expanding cap.

waldo don't waste your time with Roy......... he actually thinks he is explaining the cap to you which is hilarious....... we are 20 steps ahead of him

He still thinks restructures are bad and that they Cowboys were ever in cap trouble....duhhhhhh

 

[CowboyRoy]

the cap has changed and it is no longer the cap hell people remember.
all teams are now out of cap hell and there will be ~$2 billion dollars of combined cap space next year.
you need to think for a second about how much cap space that really is.

cap moves are done all the time.
if done correctly, you actually are able to create real and additional cap space because of the expanding cap.

Im talking about the past few years and this year. The Cowboys have signed virtually no one beyond their own guys and they are up against the cap each year. And in order to get there they are constantly borrowing from the future to do it.

Nothing rocket science about it. Those are the plain facts.

You want to talk about the future, no one knows. Either way you can see quite plainly that they are biting into that apple at an alarming pace. The only real freedom we can absolutely count on is that Romo will come off at some point before we have to pay Dak. But that is more based on luck then strategy.

 

[waldoputty]

and here comes the Witten extension as predicted BUT 2 weeks after FA

Don't want to show that extra 4m in cap space

If they did everything March 1st we would have had 60m in cap space and every Cowboy fan would have a huge shopping list.......this way we dribble it out and can keep the myth alive

there was a report that 2.5M of cap space was returned to the league - apparently most teams did that back in 2012.
i guess the league loaned out cap space when everyone was tight and now teams are returning it.

so with (9-2.5) - their shown number is 6.5 with another 4 or so available if they want it.
best case it is richardson
but who knows.

 

[waldoputty]

Im talking about the past few years and this year. The Cowboys have signed virtually no one beyond their own guys and they are up against the cap each year. And in order to get there they are constantly borrowing from the future to do it.

Nothing rocket science about it. Those are the plain facts.

You want to talk about the future, no one knows. Either way you can see quite plainly that they are biting into that apple at an alarming pace. The only real freedom we can absolutely count on is that Romo will come off at some point before we have to pay Dak. But that is more based on luck then strategy.

i already shown multiple 5 year models that discussed different FA scenarios.
you can go read them if you want.
like you said, nothing rocket science about it if someone puts it on a spreadsheet, which i did.

 

[CowboyRoy]

waldo don't waste your time with Roy......... he actually thinks he is explaining the cap to you which is hilarious....... we are 20 steps ahead of him

He still thinks restructures are bad and that they Cowboys were ever in cap trouble....duhhhhhh

Waldo? LOL Perfect name.

Here, educate yourself. These guys are actually paid professionals that get paid to do this for a living. They are not some run of the mill, homer fan club member that turns a blind eye to the facts because it makes him feel cozy and warm.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-teams-facing-salary-cap-issues-2017.html/?a=viewall

Nice detail for you here. Cowboys are #3 in the horror show. Just a myth eh?
And they even nail down guys like Lee and Witten for new deals or restructuring.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

Lots of good numbers here for you to discount. Enjoy!!!